GTX 460 (1GB) vs HD 5850

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Which card should I get?

  • MSI Hawk

    Votes: 5 11.6%

  • MSI Cyclone

    Votes: 5 11.6%

  • ASUS DirectCU TOP

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • EVGA Superclocked (01G-P3-1372-TR)

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • XFX HD-585X-ZAFA

    Votes: 4 9.3%

  • HIS H585FN1GD

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • PowerColor PCS+

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • Sapphire 11162-00-40R

    Votes: 4 9.3%

  • Wait for HD 6000

    Votes: 14 32.6%
  • Total voters
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Hello everyone,

I'm about to replace my Palit 7900GS graphics card as it now shows artifacts when playing 3D games and also getting old. I can't decide on which card to get as prices of both GTX 460 (1GB) and HD 5850 are close here in my country. I also don't know if I would need PhysX or CUDA. I want to play Final Fantasy XIV and other recent games with this card and the former recommends the 460 (768MB). However, I see many posts recommending the 5850 but without mentioning its trade-off on games for not having PhysX. Also, I'm using an E6600 (which I may overclock on my P45 or replace with a new setup in the near future) so I don't know if it will become a bottleneck. The release of the HD 6000 line in a few weeks has now also become a factor. Your inputs are pretty much appreciated! (~^_^)~

The following are the cards available here with their prices in US$ (Local / Newegg / Difference):
[GTX 460 1GB]
MSI Hawk: $280 / $240 / $40
MSI Cyclone: $257 / $223 / $34
ASUS DirectCU TOP: $293 / $245 / $48
EVGA Superclocked (01G-P3-1372-TR): $246 / $240 / $6

[HD 5850]
XFX HD-585X-ZAFA (similar to HD-585X-ZAFC?): $283 / $260 / $23
HIS H585FN1GD: $293 / $270 / $23
PowerColor PCS+: $273 / $260 / $13
Sapphire 11162-00-40R (similar to 100282-3SR?): $262 / $270 / -$8

Thanks!
 
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Currently I'm at 1440x900 but I will buy a 1920x1080 monitor this holiday season.

PSU: Corsair HX850W
MB: EMAXX P45-PRO (was a Striker Extreme but broke down last month)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
RAM: G.SKILL F2-PC9600CL5D-4GBPI (DDR2)
GPU: Palit GeForce 7900GS 256MB
 
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Assuming you will also overclock the CPU, I would go with the MSI Cyclone or DirectCU, both have voltage control and overclock very well (if needed).

Buy an aftermarket cooler for your CPU, it should clock pretty high. The reviews for your motherboard state that an E8400 topped out 3.8Ghz (430FSB).
 
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The HD5850 is the better card in general. PhysX is only used in a handful of games and even then rarely rises above above gimmick status. Certainly not something to base choosing a video card on IMO.
Waiting for the HD6000 series is a decent idea.
 
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The cheapest GTX460 for you is the eVGA one at $246. The cheapest 5850 is the Sapphire at $262. Thats a $16 difference. I would pay that for the 5850. Waiting for the 6 series to hit might be a good idea, but availability won't be till next month still, and there is no telling if they will arrive in force or not. Seeing as you need a card now you might as well buy it now.
 
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Thanks for all your inputs! ^_^
It seems that the votes are still divided though, so I'll wait a little longer..

Forgot to list my cooler, it's a Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme with Scythe Ultra Kaze 3k RPM (though it never reaches 3k), controlled by a Sunbeam Rheobus. Previously I'm running on 3.2GHz but haven't tried OCing yet after replacing the board. Will try OCing it again after a while.. ^_^

I also saw the list of PhysX supported games and it doesn't seem too many but I don't know if newer games would support it by default..
 
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+1, even if the 6 series are not a viable option, they will cause price drops on the older gen cards.

that aside, the 5850 is the better card, though if you ever plan to add a second I would go for the 460, since its SLI scaling is excellent and it puts it leagues ahead of crossfired 5850s.

but, im pretty sure a 6770 would be the card for you. similar performance or better for a lower price is pretty much guaranteed. and that only a month away.
 
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Billy, the GTX460 is a cheaper card. Its also a very good one so if the prices work out for you then get the GTX460. The OP is in a different country and can't buy from newegg. For him, the GTX460 is only $16 less then a 5850. Where he lives its a much better idea to get the 5850.
 
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I currently have installed the 460gtx cyclone 768mb ad it runs everything great. But also bought the HIS 5830 1gb, and will return one... I am confused myself.
 
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To the third person posting in this thread, why not test both cards seeing as you have them? Return the one thats weaker in the games you play. The GTX460 and 5830 are pretty equal in performance. But the 5830 has worse power numbers and generally costs a bit more.
 
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Id say wait for 6xxx, and if not, get the cheapest 5850. The GTX 460 was, and still is a great deal, but ever since 5850's have dropped below $250, it has lost a lot of its shine. Also, the 5850 has been around a lot longer, and therefore prices on ebay are a lot lower. But in any event, wait for 6xxx, see how prices drop, and look at things then.
 
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I am actually getting my 5830 today from NE. I was thinking the same thing, run fraps and play the games i like and see. BUT... nVidia ad ati drivers hate each other, which caused me to think I had artifacts from my 460 at first, I tried a driver removal software so thought it cant be interfering drivers, but after a fresh install my 460was running perfect. So I am reluctant to try both cards, for fear I will have too fresh install again. Seems like alot the edge is going to the 460 right now though, not sure if this is from nVidia love though.
 
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Hello and thanks again! Sorry for not replying immediately as I was kind of busy this week.. If only the prices of the 460s were similar here and the US, I would have gone with it instantly. But its price difference with the 5850 cannot be overlooked and even leads me to it.. Currently, the Cyclone leads by one point in the poll when looked at per item but when taking all 460s and 5850s into consideration, it's a tie.. Most went with the wait for HD 6000 though and it seems a viable option as it should just be around the following week.. I really hope that prices will drop.. I'll update you guys again when the 6000s arrive here.. Thanks! ^_^

BTW, doesn't the 5850s listed above have voltage control/high overclock potential?
 
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Nope. The HD5850s with voltage control are the reference model which is very hard to find these days, the Asus DirectCU and the MSI Twin Frozr.
 
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Take a look at Gigabytes GTX 460 factory oc. I just got myself 2 of them and they are awesome
 
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The GTX 460 is a twat faster than 5850 in DX11 benchmarks. Since it is cheaper than 5850, GTX460 is a better buy.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1391/4/
 
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Assuming all you want to do is run benchmarks and not play games...

the 5850 is the faster card in the large majority of games. synthetics are no help to anyone.
 
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