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March 2, 2011 8:46:53 AM

yes i know -1 for the thread name alone. But i have a question. which is the better build intel vs amd? You'll see why in a sec. but since i couldn't decide wifey made a good suggestion and said to buy parts over time until i made my mind.

atm i have:
8gb ddr3 1600 ram ($40 w MIR from newegg)
a FREE XFX radeon HD 5770 (my bro bought a motorcycle and needed a lil bit of space in the garage, and gave it to me for helping :pt1cable:  )
A Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

parts i havent gotten yet:
SilverStone FP52B Aluminum 5.25-Inch Bay Thermal Controller (Black)
SilverStone 5.25-Inch 3-in-1 Storage Device for 1x 2.5 HDD/SSD, 1x slim ODD, 2x USB ports TS03B (Black)
SilverStone Aluminum Front Panel 5.25-Inch Multi-media System with LCD Display MFP51B (Black)
Western Digital Scorpio Black WD3200BEKT 320GB 7200 RPM 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (may salvage my current 640gb sata 3gb 7200 rpm from my current build before i sell it)
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SN-S083F/BEBE - OEM
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel (only if i get the 2500 and OC 4GHz+)
and 4x EVERCOOL FAN-EC12025M12C 120mm Case Fan

what im wondering is this. why spend -+ 300 - 400 on a 2500k (best option imho) and mobo, when i can spend around 200 for a good mobo to unlock and oc a phenom ii 555. im not going to QQ if it takes me a few min to encode a video or song, or it takes me 30 - 45 sec longer to load win7 (sata vs ssd), or im not getting 60+ fps with everything on high (ive never used aa). my old rig was a 14" toshiba laptop w integrated graphics so im used to getting 20 - 40 fps with everything on LOW and it lasted me 2 years, so pretty much ANYTHING is an upgrade to me. not including the current machine im on. its a phenom x4 1.8 GHz i believe, with a GT 220. but it...sticks.. to me it needs a wipe and a fresh install.

this cpu will be for gaming mainly (if u ask for most graphically consuming task), but i do use it for research, analysis, and watching movies, wait forgot to mention skype. o yea, as you can see from the items above it has quite a lot of eye candy. :D 

suggestions and opinions?

on a side note, what kinda power am i looking at? 650 if i go with amd, maybe 750 for intel?

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March 2, 2011 9:02:26 AM

single @ 1280 x 1024. if i can't dual monitor with same monitor ill prolly change it out.
March 2, 2011 9:26:09 AM

i cant see myself doing something like 2500+ x 1900 etc. dont want anything too big, my daughter gets a kick of how things fall and crash :D 

but ill wait and see how much mobos are going to be. so far from research the H67s dont support 1600, so i guess the P67 is my only option. any1 know what the avg p67 w support for 1600 ram was going for?

btw any thoughts on a psu?
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March 2, 2011 9:34:22 AM

i got 8gb of 1600 already for 40.
just worried about the PSU atm.
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March 2, 2011 10:21:13 AM

With such a lower res, do you need such a powerful CPU?
March 2, 2011 10:35:37 AM

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For gaming the gpu is the thing really going to make a difference. The gpu must match your monitors native resolution. At that low resolution the I5 2500k will slaughter the x2. But the higher you go with the resolution the smaller the gap between the two will get as the end result gets tip towards the quality and capability of the gpu.


That's the contrary pal. The two cpu are not going to show any difference at that resolution because the card is going to be the bottleneck before the GPU at that resolution. Even there, both cpu are able to render 60fps at that resolution.

If the card is not strong enough, both cpu will always show the same result in benches. You need a strong enough card to see the difference.
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March 2, 2011 10:37:06 AM

If anything, both CPU and GPU will definitely be too powerful for the resolution.
March 2, 2011 7:26:54 PM

amdfangirl said:
With such a lower res, do you need such a powerful CPU?


that's my whole point.


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why? That card can handle a higher resolution than that. The lower the resolution the more juice he will need from the cpu. Why do you think they always bench cpus at 1280 resolution?


I'd only be using dual monitors, and i kno the 5770 shouldnt even break a sweat. so my question is at this res and only dual monitors do i really need a 2500?
March 2, 2011 7:29:56 PM

i figured and unlocked pii 555 would be more than enough
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March 2, 2011 7:46:55 PM

_tru_ said:
single @ 1280 x 1024. if i can't dual monitor with same monitor ill prolly change it out.


At that resolution a dual core cpu and a 8800GT is all you need. Anything else would be a waste.

That is why your first buy should be a monitor, not a computer. 1920x1080 is pretty much the standard today for a standard 22" monitor.

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March 2, 2011 7:55:03 PM
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_tru_ said:
that's my whole point.
I'd only be using dual monitors, and i kno the 5770 shouldnt even break a sweat. so my question is at this res and only dual monitors do i really need a 2500?


You don't need the 2500, but damn, its a significant upgrade over the amd setup. I think its easily worth $200 more. Also by going the 2500 route, you are buying a "living" platform, the AMD setup will be obsolete shortly.

Ultimately it boils down to money if this choice was mine. Get what you can afford.
March 2, 2011 8:57:37 PM

festerovic said:
You don't need the 2500, but damn, its a significant upgrade over the amd setup. I think its easily worth $200 more. Also by going the 2500 route, you are buying a "living" platform, the AMD setup will be obsolete shortly.

Ultimately it boils down to money if this choice was mine. Get what you can afford.


i might be able to do it, just needed convincing.

geekapproved said:
At that resolution a dual core cpu and a 8800GT is all you need. Anything else would be a waste.

That is why your first buy should be a monitor, not a computer. 1920x1080 is pretty much the standard today for a standard 22" monitor.


i already have the 5770, my bro gave it to me free.
March 2, 2011 9:21:42 PM

I own a rig with the phenom 555 and it's a great little CPU. For CPU-intensive tasks I up the voltage and clock it to 3.9-4.0ghz on all 4 cores and it absolutely screams. Bear in mind, though, that the unlocking of the 2 latent cores may not always work. Thus, you're always taking a risk.

The 1155 is a new platform and will probably last longer, but considering we're talking about Intel platforms that "longer" may not be that long at all. And if you don't plan on upgrading your CPU/Mobo for 2 years or so then you needn't worry either way, AMD or Intel platforms, as they will both have new mobos/CPUs by the time you choose to do so.

Ultimately the choice should boil down to this:

Do I need more CPU power and am willing to spend a couple hundred dollars for the higher costing CPU / mobo for it?

If the answer is yes then go Intel. If the answer is no then you'll be fine with an AMD phenom series -- but i would suggest the phenom 955 and a guaranteed 4 cores.
March 2, 2011 10:02:54 PM

pelov said:
I own a rig with the phenom 555 and it's a great little CPU. For CPU-intensive tasks I up the voltage and clock it to 3.9-4.0ghz on all 4 cores and it absolutely screams. Bear in mind, though, that the unlocking of the 2 latent cores may not always work. Thus, you're always taking a risk.

The 1155 is a new platform and will probably last longer, but considering we're talking about Intel platforms that "longer" may not be that long at all. And if you don't plan on upgrading your CPU/Mobo for 2 years or so then you needn't worry either way, AMD or Intel platforms, as they will both have new mobos/CPUs by the time you choose to do so.

Ultimately the choice should boil down to this:

Do I need more CPU power and am willing to spend a couple hundred dollars for the higher costing CPU / mobo for it?

If the answer is yes then go Intel. If the answer is no then you'll be fine with an AMD phenom series -- but i would suggest the phenom 955 and a guaranteed 4 cores.


ty, that settled it for me. ill get the 2500. the reason for this is, you're right about the possible unlocking phailure with the 555, so a stable 4cores is better. so if i 555 and concentrate on the 955, then upgrading to a 2500 for only 50$ more is a no brainer.
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March 3, 2011 3:33:00 AM

_tru_ said:
i figured and unlocked pii 555 would be more than enough


It would be. I run a Phenom II X2 555BE @3.2Ghz, 1.088v with a HD 5770 and I play older games at 1080p, although new-ish games like Far Cry 2 run fine at the native res.
March 3, 2011 6:19:17 AM

amdfangirl said:
It would be. I run a Phenom II X2 555BE @3.2Ghz, 1.088v with a HD 5770 and I play older games at 1080p, although new-ish games like Far Cry 2 run fine at the native res.


unlocked?
March 3, 2011 6:22:24 AM

i got 8gb of 1600 ddr3 for 40$ i see that the mainstream mobos' are running 1066/1333 would it be a crime to run the ram @ 1333 and not use the full potential?
March 3, 2011 6:57:14 AM

definitely getting the 2500k, found the sweetest OC guide
March 3, 2011 8:08:57 AM

ok got all the info i need. going with the 2500k and the ASUS P8P67 PRO
March 3, 2011 8:10:09 AM

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March 3, 2011 8:52:17 AM

_tru_ said:
unlocked?


Yup. Triple cripple.

I love how overkill your system is. Trade?
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March 3, 2011 2:55:02 PM

2500K for gaming at 1280x1024.

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