Help 3 Compu $2500-3000 Photoshop/Illustraor, NAS and budget gaming

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Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: $2500-$3000 Before Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
System A) Massive multitasking of Photoshop/Illustrator
System B) NAS with RAID 1, do not care about speed just redundancy
System C) Budget gaming system with best bang for best video card (must replace Q8200 w/ ATI 5750)

Parts Not Required:
System A) Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse (if budget allows would like a nice setup)
System B) No idea what a homebuilt NAS system needs but I have extra monitors/keyboards/mouses
System C) Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type
Only preference is System A be an i7 9xx series.

Overclocking: No for all

SLI or Crossfire: No, I'm a single GPU guy.

Monitor Resolution:
System A) 1920x1080
System B) No idea
System C) 1680x1050


Additional Comments:

My mom owns a small print shop and she's upgrading her systems. Need help, would require OS's on all system and if anybody knows the best place to buy CS4/5 / Corel / Office I'm all ears also.

Main system is replacing an old PowerPC with older CS2. I finally convinced her the price difference (for computers) is worth getting the software (she doesn't understand the point of versions, she thinks they're all good). I would like an SSD and would not require on computer backup space. System will be in a dusty area.

If budget allows I would like to throw in a better monitor, sometimes I feel horrible for the typesetter who works on the computer. Also one of those pen tablets, and a ergonomic keyboard/mouse combo.

2nd system is a NAS box. Need redundancy, speed is secondary. She just lost a WD netcenter and it was catastrophic. Decided it was better to build a NAS box that doesn't use ReiserFS I am open to those pre-made ones but I have no idea if they're worth it.

3rd system is going to replace mine. I'll be giving her my q8200 system w XFX 5750 as the e-mail computer. It'll be replacing the last system I build which was an Athlon X2 something? It was a long time ago. Doesn't have to be the best, just has to beat the older system and be the best bang for the buck.

Reliability is my main concern. I started looking at the newegg combo deals and there is always one part that scares me (either the video card or the mobo).

I'm hoping I can squeeze software in (OS for all, graphic design software one A) in the budget but I can stretch this to just be hardware cost.

Thanks all for saving my behind. Wish my parents wanted something normal like a vacation.

Going to sleep after reading more reviews on newegg. Hope I get some suggestions by tomorrow. My mom been calling me every day asking if I bought her computers yet. Some tech-savy person please save me.
 
System 1)
i7 950 + ASUS Sabertooth
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.566445

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB
$20 off w/ promo code EMCZNYN75, ends 12/8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231356

Antec 300 + OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.546483.11-129-042

GT430 - CUDA would help with PS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130579

Seasonic 520W - Modular, 5 years warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

Boot drive - OCZ Vertex 2 60GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550

Data - Samsung F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

Total - ~$1135

System 2 NAS - With FreeNAS??
Here is a basic setup for such a build
Athlon X2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103903

Biostar 760G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138290

RAM -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134787

CASE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154094
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112

PSU - This deal expires in a day
Corisar CX 430
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017

2x Samsung F4 2TB for RAID 1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245

Total - ~$400

System 3 - Budget gaming
X4 955
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.412237

Gigbayte 870A + OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552523

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

CASE -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146061
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

PSU -
OCZ Mod 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

GPU - XFX HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150506

Samsung F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

DVD - Same as system 1

Total - ~$830
 

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Thanks, reading up on it now. More things to research, was hoping to buy everything by the end of this week.

Are those pre-build NAS boxes any good? Wondering for my own sanity (would love less things to troubleshoot).

 

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Bump would it change things if I got rid of a NAS box and added RAID 1 to the Q8200 system?

Thinking theres no point to make an extra system.

Also the emails is 50% of the things needed to be saved.

Thanks all
 

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Yeah just replace the new NAS cpu/mobo/ram/psu/case(the ones gkay listed) with the ones you already have(the q8200 system) and you're good to go ;)
 

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I might scrap the idea of a NAS box and just fix up the Q8200 system to have Raid and be the email server.

The more questions answered, the more I need answered.

Thanks community!
 

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Decided to scrap the NAS box and just add Raid 1 to the Q8200 system.

The mobo does not have a onboard Raid controller so need a Raid controller.

Can anybody point me to one? Also I should have no problems running the OS off the controller?

Possibly frees up more budget (need to finalize what software/prices are).

Also are dust filters and extra fans worth it? And any help on tablets would be great. The only brand I know is Wacom.

Also how would I check if the video card fits in the case? Sorry, just want to triple check before I order tomorrow.

Also more options for builds would make my day! I love options!
 
^ Yeah you can make the Q8200 system a NAS box, and which mobo do you have? For a simple RAID system, the onboard RAID would suffice IMO or even the s/w RAID might be fine...
So before you purchase a RAID controller card, just check those out...

As for tablets, even take a look at Kworld Kanvus tablets, they seem to be good...

Most of the case/ graphic card reviews have the length specified in their article, so you can make sure from that...
 

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Its a P5G41-M, doesn't have an onboard Raid.

The video card says its 10.3" and the case length is 18.50". How much space does the HD bracket take away? Sorry feeling like a dumdum right now.

More things to research, maybe I'll take mom out for dinner to buy me a another day of research.


Thanks for all the input. Any idea on the dust filters/additional fans? Artic silver?

Man I feel like an old fogey sometimes. I forget how fast the tech world moves.
 

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Is the thermal paste required on stock systems? I thought stock heatsinks can with some pre-applied.

Thanks for all the help.
 

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Any suggestions for Raid controller? Last piece of the puzzle.

So thinking of getting the other case you suggested the

COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN3 CM690 II Basic Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

and use that for the store and use the Antec for myself to keep the discount on the OS.

How many more fans would you suggest?

Sometimes I remember fondly the days of limited choices.

I realized the Antec has a filter also. Would that be good enough? I was leaning more to the Rosewill but that Coolermaster seems nice too.

And wow my budget might need to increase, I require at least Adobe Design Standard, Corel (either 11/12 or x3/4/5) and Office.

Any benefit of buying the software off Adobe? I could at least use the 2% cashback from newegg.

Blah if I'm upping my budget would you suggest a Quadro card or would the GTS be fine?
 

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Jeebus the choices again. Definitely will post in the storage section next.

I know I'm stressing way too much over the case but what would you say is the best for a dusty print shop? Hell I can't decide on mine either. Time to sleep.

Thanks for all the input.
 

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Blah more changes. Decided just to use Raid 1 within Win 7 (so one of the OS's will have to be upgraded).

Hey gkays any help on hotswappable? Has anything changed? Guessing 3 more 1tb's on the Q8200 system. Set 2 as in software Raid 1 and the 3rd I'll do my month backups and take it home with me.
 

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Motherboard & Processor Combo

They is a Intel 980X Extreme Edition Golftown 3.33GHZ Six-Core Processor and an ASUS Rampage III Extreme Motherboard in this combo.

Link To View - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.564028

Price: $1344.99 USD

Combo Discount: $34.99 USD

Rebate Available: No

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Memory/Ram

This is G.Skill Ripjaw series 12 ( 3x4GB ) DDR3 @ 2000 Desktop Memory, great for multi-tasking, gaming and especially editing photos/videos with maximum speed and quality.

Link To View - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231408

Price: $289.99 USD

Rebate Available: No

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Hard Drive & Power Supply

This is a HITACHI Deskstar 2TB 7200RPM Hard Drive, and a CORSAIR AX1200 1200W Power Supply, the Hard drive provide plenty of space for anything you'll have as well as great speed for accessing files. The Power supply is a great amount of watts, it will help support your processor and anything else you might throw at it.

Link To View - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569082

Price: $384.98 USD

Combo Discount: $25.00 USD

Rebate Available: No

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Video/Graphics Card

This is an EVGA GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB Graphics card, with great memory all of NVIDA's New technology this is a great card for videp/picture production AND Gaming. I know you're not looking for SLI but most cards are compatible with it so I suppose its a bonus if you ever consider upgrading the gaming side a bit. It also comes with a LIFETIME warranty, great feature to have.

Link To View - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593

Price: $349.99 USD

Rebate Available: No

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CD/DVD Drive

This is a SAMSUNG DVD/CD Drive with support for blu-ray AND Lightscribe. For someone who may be burning files to disc to show, lightscribe is a bonus, as well as it is to have Blu-Ray with the large budget you have.

Link To View - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222

Price: $79.99 USD

Rebate Available: No

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Computer Housing / Case

This is a Cooler Master HAF X Case that is great for keeping your system cool, clean, safe and stylish. Not much more too it.

Link to View - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

Price: $199.99 USD

Rebate Available: No

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Cooling System(s)

I gave you a water cooling system by Thermaltake, because I feel this will work more efficiently, if you don't want on just tell me and I'll happily post CPU coolers, RAM coolers Etc. But I think you'll like the water cooling. No more fans are really needed due to the case you have loaded with them.

Link To View - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106077

Price: $89.99

Rebate Available: No

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Total: $2740.92 USD

Just In between budget :)

No I hope you like this build I made, sorry I didn't list it earlier but I think like half of those things come with free shipping anyways so you're looking at a pretty straight forward price. It took me a while to complete but if you don't like certain qualities of the build let me know and I'll fit it to your liking :), in case it already is the " Best Answer " Button is below :D

Anyways Enjoy I really wanted to utilize the budget you had of $3000 USD, but if you want something cheaper again let me know I don't mind fixing it :)

Enjoy, Satchel

Purchase OS as you will still in budget :)

EDIT: AWWWW CRAP I JUST SAY THE SYSTEM 1,2,3 Well sorry bout that but i'd go with gkay's suggestion then, looks pretty good. But if you want one big system choose mine :)
 

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Hahaha thanks Satchel.

I wish I could just blow everything on the best but I know my mom isn't going to use it.

Any other suggestions/revisions to gkay's lsit?
 

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Um if you give me a little bit I could have a little version of my own, but if you don't wanna wait i think gkay's is pretty good :) Any preference in intel/amd?
 

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For the store an i7 since its just a 2d workstation, PS/Illustrator.

For the budget gaming, no real preferences. I just want setups that work together.

I scrapped the NAS box, so I also need to find hotswappable trays and two good harddrives for software mirroring.

Blah so my budget got upped to 3500-4500 but software is still killing me.

Adobe/Office/Corel is taking 2200 out of my budget. Still looking for cheaper options and used ones.
 

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I can find some cheaper OS, and software, but heres the thing :

Gkay has some great builds but I think you should add a few things to your NAS system, I noticed you had x2 2TB @5400RPM, I think you should up that to these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145298

Spend an extra 30 bucks per HDD, but its gonna be slow enough accessing tons of space over networking, may aswell get some speed from the HDD that way its bearable.

Give me a second and i'll edit this post with some cheaper OS and software

EDIT: Cheapest I could find for PS is like 800 bucks on newegg, as for office i don't know but you can use the one office disc on multiple PC's, You could always crasck it for free?

I have PS CS4 FL CS4 PR CS3

I think you're right, gonna get killed in software if you don't crack
 

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Hahaha I know but its for my mom's shop and she's a supper stickler for legit software.

Seems one of her friends got caught with bootlegs and was fined massively.

I'm scrapping the NAS box, the Q8200 system is going to become the backup system.

I read enough good things about Win7 Mirroring that I'm willing to give it a try.

Just need to find 2 1TB HD's and hotswap trays to finish the psuedo NAS system.

Its going to be the email system and its ALWAYS connected to the network and its has 90% off our files so figured no point of a NAS only system on the network.

Also scrapping all the OS's. I'm recycling older OS'es, just need 1 legit copy of Windows 7 Ult.
 

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Alright well if you give me a list of the software you need and the number of copies you need I will find the cheapest for you :)