VGAP 3 vs. VGAP 4

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So I'm curious....

Do most players in this newsgroup exclusively play VGAP 3 or do they play 4
too?

If they don't play 4, why not?

As for me, I am 3 only. I can't stand the VGAP 4 interface and find the game
too complicated. 3 has just the right balance of gameplay for me.

Any other comments from other players are encouraged.


Cheers,


S
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  1. Archived from groups: alt.games.vga-planets (More info?)

    Seann wrote:
    > Do most players in this newsgroup exclusively play VGAP 3 or do they play 4
    > too?
    I play 3 only
    > If they don't play 4, why not?
    I tried siming a "4" game and got a headache

    Jim
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    * Seann <smcpherson75@hotmail.ca> wrote:

    > Do most players in this newsgroup exclusively play VGAP 3 or do
    > they play 4 too?

    VGAP 3

    > If they don't play 4, why not?

    - It's a different game.
    - I don't like the user interface.
    - It is not ready.

    Regards, Heiko
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    Hiya Seann!
    If this is thread in response to my intrusion about the v4 new races
    survey - I apologise again! 8)

    I, personally, don't play either v3 or v4. I mainly just "do" graphics for
    aspiring new races for v4 and I'm trying to do some translation "stuff". I
    think I'd be too confused playing either game and I don't really have a
    "competative streak", or the time, either! I hope I'm neutral here?

    I'm not really interested in "selling" v4 to any v3 players. I'm also not
    bothered if v3 players don't want to migrate, if/when v4 goes "gold". That's
    up to you guys? I am "promoting" v4 on my 2 main websites - but my intent is
    to find _new_ players - not to poach v3 people - unless they want to.

    I am, however, running an essentially unofficial Survey of v4 New 3rd Party
    Races mainly on behalf of the creators of those races, and since I post
    stuff on the yahoo VGAP-93 Mailing list - which seems (?) to be a mixed ML,
    I thought I'd post here too?

    My apologies for intruding - but this Survey _is_ open to v3 players if they
    want to join in. I would like them to contribute constructive opinions on
    this topic.

    Cheers
    --
    Olly (Crayon-World guy)

    sorry about the following "plugs" but I guess you might want to see "where
    I'm coming from"?
    New Races Survey site
    http://mysite.freeserve.com/vgap4_stuff/pollingbooth/3rdpartyvote.htm
    Crayon-World graphics site
    http://www.twoflower.fsnet.co.uk/crayonworld/main/main.htm
    VGAP4 International - translation site - still "embryonic"
    http://mysite.freeserve.com/vgap4_stuff/alone/main.htm


    "Seann" wrote

    > So I'm curious....
    >
    > Do most players in this newsgroup exclusively play VGAP 3 or do they play
    4
    > too?
    >
    > If they don't play 4, why not?
    >
    > As for me, I am 3 only. I can't stand the VGAP 4 interface and find the
    game
    > too complicated. 3 has just the right balance of gameplay for me.
    >
    > Any other comments from other players are encouraged.
    >
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    >
    > S
    >
    >
  4. Archived from groups: alt.games.vga-planets (More info?)

    Hi there!

    Well, how to say it?

    I really really loved V3 and still love it (again). As I got stuffed
    with V3 a few years ago the V4 homepage introduced us to the new
    features and I was soooooooo damn greedy for that game. Unfortunately it
    took a bit long to get a playable beta (no offence to tim... it takes as
    long as it needs, it was just not the right time to catch my hype... can
    happen :) )

    When beta was released I downloaded it with my poor 33.6 modem and found
    myself in a djungle of options, rules, features, bugs (early days),
    menues, interfaces, ...

    I was not even able to set up a game first. When I found out how to do
    it the next problem was how to build ships, planet improvements, how to
    load ships and how to move those! The help files were not really helpful
    to me. I think (or I thought) that I made what is mentioned... step by
    step... and failed. Ok, may be it is a good point to state that my
    English became a bit rusty over the years I've been away from online
    games but I think it is not so bad that I miss the sense of the things I
    read (or hear).

    Fact is, that I still like v3 and also want to learn how v4 works. I
    "bite" through many complicated games until I manage to be at least a
    worthy victim. (Uncommon Valor is also a damn complicated game)

    Currently I pay more and more attention to V4 and I'm pretty sure I will
    try it again. At least when it is finished. But everytime I make a new
    approach to the learning phase I see hundreds of "how to" pages,
    helpfiles, guides, hints, rules, etc and I simply get shocked! I guess
    I'm not the only one.

    Is there a German "getting started guide" around? May be that would
    help. I'm sure that once I find out the basics the rest will get easier
    and THEN you can kill me :)

    cheers
    Michael (aka Mika)
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    Michael (aka Mika)
    > Is there a German "getting started guide" around? May be that would
    > help. I'm sure that once I find out the basics the rest will get easier
    > and THEN you can kill me :)

    There is a v4 "Newbies Guide" which Paul and I put together which takes you
    through the first 3 turns or so - playing against yourself with a local
    host. This guide is in English and Spanish and is being translated into
    German and Dutch and hopefully soon into French and Finnish and any other
    language I can find volunteers to work on! 8)
    The German translation (I am assured) is mostly done - I just haven't seen
    it yet!

    http://mysite.freeserve.com/vgap4_stuff/alone/index.htm
    it's a bit out of date due to some host changes recently - we will be
    updating it soon I hope.

    It's written for complete "newbies" - like me. Not targeted at v3
    migrators - as I said - I'm not trying to "poach" V3 guys, but since you
    asked - the German version might happen - eventually? I just have to keep
    reminding the team...

    Cheers
    --
    Olly
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    V3 only - same reasons. I downloaded and tried V4 - couldn't get it off my
    machine fast enough......

    --
    It's all about Vanguard.


    "Seann" <smcpherson75@hotmail.ca> wrote in message
    news:K3Hqc.65801$0qd.58400@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
    > So I'm curious....
    >
    > Do most players in this newsgroup exclusively play VGAP 3 or do they play
    4
    > too?
    >
    > If they don't play 4, why not?
    >
    > As for me, I am 3 only. I can't stand the VGAP 4 interface and find the
    game
    > too complicated. 3 has just the right balance of gameplay for me.
    >
    > Any other comments from other players are encouraged.
    >
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    >
    > S
    >
    >
  7. Archived from groups: alt.games.vga-planets (More info?)

    On Wed, 19 May 2004 10:56:42 GMT, "Seann" <smcpherson75@hotmail.ca>
    wrote:

    >So I'm curious....
    >
    >Do most players in this newsgroup exclusively play VGAP 3 or do they play 4
    >too?
    >
    >If they don't play 4, why not?
    >
    >As for me, I am 3 only. I can't stand the VGAP 4 interface and find the game
    >too complicated. 3 has just the right balance of gameplay for me.
    >
    >Any other comments from other players are encouraged.
    >
    >
    >Cheers,
    >
    >
    >S
    >
    I play a few V3 games a year, when I'm in a period where I not playing
    or a game has just started, I have a tinker with V4 following the
    guide on http://mysite.freeserve.com/vgap4_stuff/alone/index.htm
    I think it will take me longer to get use to than some one who has
    never played V3, as they are not use to a certain way of playing.
    I do like V4, but atm don't have the time to learn the micro
    management while I'm still playing V3 games.
  8. Archived from groups: alt.games.vga-planets (More info?)

    "Seann" <smcpherson75@hotmail.ca> wrote in
    news:K3Hqc.65801$0qd.58400@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:

    > So I'm curious....
    >
    > Do most players in this newsgroup exclusively play VGAP 3 or do they
    > play 4 too?

    I own copies of both 3 and 4.

    I play 3. Im still waiting for my copy of 4.

    The big thing for me is that Im not going to consider 4 to be worth any
    attention from me until it has an AI. Computer Opponents.

    Gandalf Parker
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