6 series ?!

[8Vidia]

hi guys , people recently talking about 6 series of ATI . i wanted to have list of new incoming 6 series & details about it . JUST wanted to know theire place ( for example 5850 's place is like this : higher than 5770 & 4890 & 5830 & lower than 5870 & 5970 ) . if some one have any IDA about those Products then please tell me , thanks .

 

[shadow187]

HD6850: Between HD5850 and GTX460.
HD6870: Between HD5850 and HD5870.

HD6950 (?): 20-35% improvement over HD5850.
HD6970 (?): 20-35% improvement over HD5870.
HD6990 (?): Dual HD 6970.

So far, that's all.

(?): New naming scheme?

 

[17seconds]

HD6850: Between HD5850 and GTX460.
HD6870: Between HD5850 and HD5870.

HD6950 (?): 20-35% improvement over HD5850.
HD6970 (?): 20-35% improvement over HD5870.
HD6990 (?): Dual HD 6970.

So far, that's all.

(?): New naming scheme?

Many people will discount your data as merely rumors, but my understanding is exactly the same as yours after reading several reports and leaks. The new cards, the 6850 and 6870, that will be announced next week will be mid-range cards intended to compete with the GTX460, and will not be widely available until November. The higher end 69xx cards are the ones that will compete with the GTX470/480. They have no release dates and much more speculation associated with them. The 6000 series will outperform their 5000 series counterparts and will do a much better job with DirectX 11 rendering, specifically tesselation. Now it's time to wait and see.

 

[shadow187]

Yup. It's just a matter of time. Here's some predictions.

Douglar

Chip Name| SPU Count | Die Size | Stock Chip Frequency | Stock Memory Frequency
Barts Pro | 800spu | 239mm2 | 725mhz | 1Ghz
Barts XT | 960spu | 239mm2 | 850mhz | 1.1Ghz
Cayman Pro | 1536spu | 386mm2 | 750mhz | 1.4Ghz
Cayman XT | 1792spu | 386mm2 | 900mhz | 1.6Ghz

GeorgeId

Barts Pro | 960spu | 217mm2 | 800 MHz | 1 GHz
Barts XT | 1152spu | 217 mm2 | 850 MHz | 1.2 GHz
Cayman Pro | 1792spu | 397 mm2 | 825 MHz | 1.45 GHz
Cayman XT | 1920spu | 397mm2 | 875 MHz | 1.7 GHz

Grunt

Barts Pro | 1152spu | 276mm2 | 725mhz | 1.0Ghz GDDR5
Barts XT | 1280spu | 276mm2 | 850mhz | 1.2Ghz GDDR5
Cayman Pro | 1760spu | 392mm2 | 725mhz | 1.4Ghz GDDR5
Cayman XT | 1920spu | 392mm2 | 850mhz | 1.6Ghz GDDR5

ShinyShoes

Barts Pro | 960 SP | 255 mm2 | 750 Mhz | 1Ghz
Barts XT | 1200 SP | 255 mm2 | 775 Mhz | 1.1Ghz
Cayman Pro | 1840 SP | 446 mm2 | 750 Mhz | 1.4Ghz
Cayman XT | 2160 SP | 446 mm2 | 800 Mhz | 1.6Ghz

CRoland

Barts Pro | 1152 SP | 260 mm2 | 750 Mhz | 128bit, 1.2Ghz
Barts XT | 1280 SP | 260 mm2 | 800 Mhz | 128bit, 1.5Ghz
Cayman Pro | 1728 SP | 390 mm2 | 750 Mhz | 256bit, 1.2Ghz
Cayman XT | 1920 SP | 390 mm2 | 800 Mhz | 256bit, 1.5Ghz

http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3316

 

[8Vidia]

Ok now i know their place & rates , now how prices will be after they get realesed ! i mean for example if 6870 is higher than 5850 how much will it COST ? ( higher than 5850 ? )

 

[Mousemonkey]

Ok now i know their place & rates , now how prices will be after they get realesed ! i mean for example if 6870 is higher than 5850 how much will it COST ? ( higher than 5850 ? )

Ask that question after it's been released and put on sale, or just pick a number at random.

 

[8Vidia]

OK , but why some people know about those cards a lot ? how do they knwo about theire performance .

 

[Mousemonkey]

OK , but why some people know about those cards a lot ? how do they knwo about theire performance .

Lots of people are speculating on their performance but no-one really knows for sure and won't do until the cards are released and lots of benchies are run and evaluated.

 

[8Vidia]

oh ya , thats right i agree with u . do u know when they will come to shops ?

 

[Mousemonkey]

October 22nd is the date I've seen that they are supposed to launched so it'll be sometime after that.

 

[17seconds]

I would say the AMD hype-machine is up and running and functioning at 100%.

 

[shadow187]

This is what happens when you leak nothing of your cards.

Didn't nVidia hype up their cards. Wasn't there at least 20 box-art articles? Where's ATI's share?

 

[notty22]

They also promised performance. Not just a new name on the box.
Fud is saying slower than the current 5870/5850
and the top model near 300 ?
No wonder the prices on the 5850 aren't dropping.
We will see.
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20485-radeon-hd-6870-and-6850-launch-oct-22nd
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20486-radeon-hd-6870-officially-at-900mhz

 

[17seconds]

Clearly, from AMD's perspective, a little hype (or a lot) is a good thing. I mean, there are how many comment threads, news leaks, debates, discussions going on; not just at the Tom's Hardware site, but pretty much throughout the tech community. And all this over a couple of mid-ranged cards that will see a "launch" next week, but only on paper.

I would say that translates into a lot of free advertising, and a lot of people holding off and/or re-considering their purchase of a card from Nvidia. But obviously we just eat this stuff up, so Good Job AMD!

 

[8Vidia]

What ?? 5850 wont drop its price ? i tough when new stuff come to the shops older things get cheaper . so is there any reason that 5850 go more expensive ?

 

[shadow187]

Not if you're nVidia and the GTX260 rises to $200 :lol:

The HD6850 is the theoretical HD6750. This is like an HD5750 being just under performance of an HD4850, which, funnily enough, it is. The HD6850 will be close to the HD5850.

 

[Mousemonkey]

The last set of "supposed" numbers I saw were not all that exciting really.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Theres two names above the "top" model people tend to forget about
Barts is third in heirarchy, not top

 

[ScoobyJooby-Jew]

Core 2 quads are still ridiculously expensive, despite the Core I3/I5/I7 series. I'm still trying to figure that one out.

 

[ScoobyJooby-Jew]

If the 6850 has a price near 200 that would be pretty sweet though.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Theres two names above the "top" model people tend to forget about
Barts is third in heirarchy, not top

Those are only "supposed" numbers that I saw earlier today and they've already been pulled from one of the sites that I saw them on so I wouldn't advise anyone to get too excited or disappointed by them, whichever of those floats your boat.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Yea, only a week away, with some small leaks to come in between

 

[17seconds]

The name change has really thrown people for a loop. Suddenly, the new mid-range looks like it should be the high end, and people are excited to see the crowning of a new king. It looks like that won't be the case.

If the 6900 series cards come out in 2011, there's good possibility they will be going head to head with the new generation cards from Nvidia. But I don't think either wants to be the first to release their high-end cards. That would just to give the other company a target to shoot for and surpass. Kind of seems like an arms race. He who laughs last, wins.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Not so sure about that, as Cristmas means alot in sales, so the sooner the better
And also, why didnt ATI wait for nVidia with their 5xxx series?
No, expect the higher cards to come as well, just a tad later

 

[17seconds]

In many ways, the 6800 series release is a response to the popularity of the GTX460. It is also a correction to the relatively poor DirectX 11 performance of the 5000 series. So you could say that AMD is being reactionary, rather than taking the first step into new territory.

For it's response, Nvidia has indicated that they have their own ammunition to keep things competitive this holiday season, like lowering prices, but also including the release of fully functional GTX 465, 475, 485, etc. For some reason those leaks have not caused such rabid speculation and near-euphoric vindication.