Gateway SX2800-01 220W Psu Graphics Help

[nutcrisp]

CPU TYPE:
Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz
CPU SPEED (GHZ):
2.35
SYSTEM MEMORY (GB):
3.97
VIDEO CARD MODEL:
Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
DESKTOP RESOLUTION:
1600x900
HARD DISK SIZE (GB):
583.17
HARD DISK FREE SPACE (GB):
358.83

Specs+ Other Info On my computer can be found here
http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/gateway-sx2800-01/1707-3118_7-33699400.html

I'm looking for any suggestions On low profile graphics cards for gaming that would fit a 220W psu Requirement as i have no clue about any of this

I don't want to take Any risk as I have seen some threads you could get by with " so and so" i'm really just seeing if its worth picking up a 30-60$ Low profile graphics card ( The price of a xbox360 game) that I would see improvements in my gaming experience Quality/Fps/Settings Primarily For World Of Warcraft.

And if you feel its worth it What graphics card would you safely suggest to me?

Games:
World of Warcraft
Starcraft 2 ( Run All lowest settings Only Lags In 4 v 4's )

Cards I have looked at But Have no idea if they will work

#1 Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102829

#2 GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187119

#3 GeForce 210 512MB 64-bit DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187114

#4 Radeon HD 4550 512MB 64-bit GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102819&cm_re=low_profile-_-14-102-819-_-Product

#5 Radeon HD 5450 512MB 64-bit DDR2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121377&cm_re=low_profile_graphics_card-_-14-121-377-_-Product

#6 Radeon HD 4350 512MB 64-bit GDDR2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125251&cm_re=low_profile_graphics_card-_-14-125-251-_-Product

#7 Radeon HD 3450 512MB 64-bit DDR2 ( Fanless)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131350&Tpk=low%20profile%20graphics%20card

#8 GeForce 9400 GT 512MB 64-bit DDR2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150503&cm_re=low_profile_graphics_card-_-14-150-503-_-Product


The List I made Above were all the things I looked at but because I don't know what would work ect i just made a list with the most common That have been suggested or named basically you tell me I'm all ears.

Hopefully I have the correct idea on graphics cards I posted because I'm totally new to this part of computers Not sure what would be safe to use or if it would be a upgrade or a downgrade hopefully The community can help me

 

[reprotected]

220 Watt PSU is pretty much garbage for everything you throw at it. The best thing perhaps is the HD5450.

 

[nutcrisp]

220 Watt PSU is pretty much garbage for everything you throw at it. The best thing perhaps is the HD5450.

Alright but in the terms of wattage is their anything you feel I can get away with as far as Low profile Graphics cards were I would see some type of difference.


Another option would be running a external power supply but I don't know much about how smart that would be ect



People talk about the max wattage of each card but when I look it up i can't get anywhere

 

[infernox_01]

im running a low profile 5570 on a dell 250w power supply fine. it could be risky putting it on a 220w psu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102874&cm_re=5570-_-14-102-874-_-Product

a 5450 should work and its still an improvement over integrated graphics. if you want a new power supply, you can get a 300w power supply for low profile computers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151090

if you do get that 300w power supply, you could get the HD5670 low profile

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127523&cm_re=5670-_-14-127-523-_-Product

 

[Guest]

Well out of them maybe the Geforce 210, but if you spend some money to get a maybe 450w Maybe thermaltake or antec power supply you can get much more power full cards.
I have a Thermaltake 450W Powersupply and its great. I can run most cards accept the goddly cards(GTX480,5970) well basicly I can run all mid end cards.

 

[nutcrisp]

This sounds dumb to ask but I have no clue so its better to ask.

I see people getting away with what others call " decent gaming low profile cards"
with 220w or less because they always seem to say.

The max wattage of the card is 25w and the cpu is 82w I don't really comprehend how this works when on the box it says 300w example would be the 8400 gs #2.


And I guess the 300 Watt Power supply is still something I would be considering So if I was to get the 300 watt psu Would i be able to get a low profile graphics card that would be better then the Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset and see a difference as I want a card for gaming and gaming Only.

I'm not saying It will be a godly ( All settings on High) Graphics card I just want something were I can raid In the upcoming expansion " Catalysm" were I can enjoy flying around and not lagging and seeing My paladins Spells While tanking.

 

[pesh]

spend 30 dollars on a decent low wattage psu by thermaltake/antec and spend 30 or so on a lower card... dont risk using such a low psu. The psu is the main component that can really make or break your PC

 

[infernox_01]

the problem is that a normal sized power supply will not fit in his case. he has to use a TFX power supply like the 1 i linked to. the best low profile cards around atm are the HD5750 and the GTS450.

HD5750 low profile, $149.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131363&cm_re=5750-_-14-131-363-_-Product

GTS450 low profile, $129.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261078&cm_re=gts450-_-14-261-078-_-Product

the 5750 low profile uses 10w less at maximum load then the normal 5750 so it should be alright. no idea how much power the gts450 low profile uses, but ive heard it does use slightly less then the normal gts450.

 

[nutcrisp]

the problem is that a normal sized power supply will not fit in his case. he has to use a TFX power supply like the 1 i linked to. the best low profile cards around atm are the HD5750 and the GTS450.

HD5750 low profile, $149.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131363&cm_re=5750-_-14-131-363-_-Product

GTS450 low profile, $129.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261078&cm_re=gts450-_-14-261-078-_-Product

the 5750 low profile uses 10w less at maximum load then the normal 5750 so it should be alright. no idea how much power the gts450 low profile uses, but ive heard it does use slightly less then the normal gts450.

Alright so if i was to go with the 300 watt psu is their any cards that are 30-75$ that would be worth it I'm not looking for the best I want something that would fit the category of a gaming card but i take those cards as Serious gaming cards As i just want a improvement from the integrated I have now.

 

[infernox_01]

this will be a great low profile card. i linked it before but ill link it again. its $79.99 though. weirdly thats the same price as most HD5570's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127523&cm_re=5670-_-14-127-523-_-Product

for a card in your budget there is a low profile 5570 that just fits your budget.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161342&cm_re=5570-_-14-161-342-_-Product

theres also a gt430 thats the same price as the 5570. the 5570 has better performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187121&cm_re=gt430-_-14-187-121-_-Product

i wouldnt recommend it but theres also a HD5550 ddr2 card for $69.99.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161341&cm_re=5550-_-14-161-341-_-Product

there is also a ddr2 HD4650 for $48.99.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102829&cm_re=4650-_-14-102-829-_-Product

a pretty good low cost option would be the GT220 at $51.99.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134089&cm_re=gt220-_-14-134-089-_-Product

 

[nutcrisp]

this will be a great low profile card. i linked it before but ill link it again. its $79.99 though. weirdly thats the same price as most HD5570's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127523&cm_re=5670-_-14-127-523-_-Product

there is also a ddr2 HD4650 for $48.99.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102829&cm_re=4650-_-14-102-829-_-Product

a pretty good low cost option would be the GT220 at $51.99.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134089&cm_re=gt220-_-14-134-089-_-Product

Thanks So much infernox_01 For all the help I'm gonna be deciding between the 3 above with the 300w Power supply Obviously and also before you linked the 5570 that you run on and I like that one also.

(im running a low profile 5570 on a dell 250w power supply fine. it could be risky putting it on a 220w psu )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102874&cm_re=5570-_-14-102-874-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

 

[infernox_01]

get either the 5670 low profile or the gt220. the 4650 ddr2 is still alot better then integrated cards but the gt220 is a much better deal.

 

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