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NVIDIA's 8400GS trounces ATI's HD 2400

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While the HD 2400 or 8400GS are neither the flashiest, or the fastest, of the recent new-generation video cards from ATI and NVIDIA, they are nonetheless very important offerings from both companies trying to bring consumers into the DirectX 10 fold. With Windows Vista, and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray technology slowly being embraced by the PC using masses, there will be no shortage of competition for the lower-end video card market.

Initial benchmarks have been reported, and it seems that the preliminary results favor the 8400GS over the HD 2400. Although the 8400GS is clocked higher, at 450/400, than the competiting HD 2400, which is clocked at 520/500, the 8400GS has a respectable lead in the synthetic benchmarking program 3DMark06. The HD 2400 is reported to reach a score of somewhere around the neighbourhood of 1250 3DMarks, whereas the 8400GS comes closer to 1600 3DMarks. A possible reason for the subpar performance of the HD 2400 could be that it has 4 texture mapping units, whereas the 8400GS has twice that many, with 8 texture mapping units on the 8400GS. the image below willl make you believe it is not true. if you dont believe me, at least believe nvidia.

http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/06/04/50113.jpg

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LOL I love how that chart makes it look as if the 8400GS is over twice as fast at the HD2400 when infact its only 368 3DMark06 points faster.

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i know but the difference is still noticeable. i played house of the dead 2 on my friends ati 2400 and it suckz, there is a black box surrounding the blood

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prolim123 wrote :

While the HD 2400 or 8400GS are neither the flashiest, or the fastest, of the recent new-generation video cards from ATI and NVIDIA, they are nonetheless very important offerings from both companies trying to bring consumers into the DirectX 10 fold. With Windows Vista, and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray technology slowly being embraced by the PC using masses, there will be no shortage of competition for the lower-end video card market.

Initial benchmarks have been reported, and it seems that the preliminary results favor the 8400GS over the HD 2400. Although the 8400GS is clocked higher, at 450/400, than the competiting HD 2400, which is clocked at 520/500, the 8400GS has a respectable lead in the synthetic benchmarking program 3DMark06. The HD 2400 is reported to reach a score of somewhere around the neighbourhood of 1250 3DMarks, whereas the 8400GS comes closer to 1600 3DMarks. A possible reason for the subpar performance of the HD 2400 could be that it has 4 texture mapping units, whereas the 8400GS has twice that many, with 8 texture mapping units on the 8400GS. the image below willl make you believe it is not true. if you dont believe me, at least believe nvidia.

http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/06/04/50113.jpg


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prolim123 wrote :

i know but the difference is still noticeable. i played house of the dead 2 on my friends ati 2400 and it suckz, there is a black box surrounding the blood



Hmmm... if it suckz so bad on your friends HD2400, maybe you should just play on your uber 1337 8400GS which is obviously loads better cuz nVidia made a chart and their not biased towards their own products at all.... :lol: :whistle:

Fun times :)

@Mouse, love the image haha! :sol:

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:D

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Reply to Mousemonkey

Dell shipped a ton of c2d 530's with the hd 2400.
It takes effort to get it to play a high bit rate movie. But being 20% faster is not much to talk about, is the opening paragraph a quote from a ancient review ?

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Thought this thread had been necro'd. Oh how I lol'd though.
I had an 8600gt, loved it till it ended up dying on me :D

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prolim123 wrote :

While the HD 2400 or 8400GS are neither the flashiest, or the fastest, of the recent new-generation video cards from ATI and NVIDIA, they are nonetheless very important offerings from both companies trying to bring consumers into the DirectX 10 fold. With Windows Vista, and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray technology slowly being embraced by the PC using masses, there will be no shortage of competition for the lower-end video card market.

Initial benchmarks have been reported, and it seems that the preliminary results favor the 8400GS over the HD 2400. Although the 8400GS is clocked higher, at 450/400, than the competiting HD 2400, which is clocked at 520/500, the 8400GS has a respectable lead in the synthetic benchmarking program 3DMark06. The HD 2400 is reported to reach a score of somewhere around the neighbourhood of 1250 3DMarks, whereas the 8400GS comes closer to 1600 3DMarks. A possible reason for the subpar performance of the HD 2400 could be that it has 4 texture mapping units, whereas the 8400GS has twice that many, with 8 texture mapping units on the 8400GS. the image below willl make you believe it is not true. if you dont believe me, at least believe nvidia.

http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/06/04/50113.jpg



As you stated above, "Although the 8400GS is clocked higher, at 450/400, than the competiting HD 2400, which is clocked at 520/500" You cant compare clock speeds of totaly diffrent cards with diffrent architectures. There not even the same brand -.-

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Big deal.As if anyone cares.


^+10000..!

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dalta centauri wrote :

Thought this thread had been necro'd. Oh how I lol'd though.
I had an 8600gt, loved it till it ended up dying on me :D


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For me it was the last Nvidia card I owned as well, because I switched to the 5770.

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i believe in sets... intel and nVidia / amd and ati so i like to keep this format.
I do however run amd with nVidia chipset so that allows me to run nVidia cards.
I'm complicated..! lol

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Well, when I had the 8600gt my computer was also running windows xp, 4gb of DDR2 ram, and a dual core Athlon at 2.1GHz. It still ran great though, of course the computer was originally a prebuilt so the 800MHz was brought down...considerably and there was no option to overclock.

I would love to try out a fuzion mobo at some point, would there be a benefit from using a radeon 5770 and a 460 together in that case?

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i loved my xfx 8600GT factory oc'd xxx edition.
i still have it laying around, i refuse to sell it..
not really thought about ati nvidia combo set-up. the thought of it doesn't do anything for me.

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WTF? Am i in a parallel universe or are the 8400 and 2400 still really old?

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yannifb wrote :

WTF? Am i in a parallel universe or are the 8400 and 2400 still really old?


welcome to this ridiculous thread.. lol

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malmental wrote :

so.
what's your point.?


It looks like someone got butt raped four years ago and liked it so much they've come over to this forum for another shafting! :lol:

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Reply to Mousemonkey

I like how even back then the first sentence of the first reply was "So what?"

Reply to jyjjy

Looks more like a spambot, probably one of Nvidia's. They had to go back that far to find the last time they beat ATI in a benchmark.

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Mousemonkey wrote :

It looks like someone got butt raped four years ago and liked it so much they've come over to this forum for another shafting! :lol:



Cmon MM language!
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/283384-33-read-first
I'll hvae to ban you.
TSK,TSK
:lol:

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eyefinity wrote :

Looks more like a spambot, probably one of Nvidia's. They had to go back that far to find the last time they beat ATI in a benchmark.


Sadly it isn't a bot. There's another thread where they were preaching against the evils of overclocking.

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eyefinity wrote :

Looks more like a spambot, probably one of Nvidia's. They had to go back that far to find the last time they beat ATI in a benchmark.


Nah, you've only got to look back to the 4xx benchmarks for that one!

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Mousemonkey wrote :

Nah, you've only got to look back to the 4xx benchmarks for that one!



I meant real gaming benchmarks not breakfast frying ones. :lol:

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eyefinity wrote :

I meant real gaming benchmarks not breakfast frying ones. :lol:


That's what I meant as well, considering that it was proved that even the GTX480 could not generate enough heat to even half cook an egg.

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Just in case eyefinity needs reminding.

SWF file

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Timop wrote :

Popcorn please.


I doubt it gets hot enough to cook that either. :whistle:

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Mousemonkey wrote :

It looks like someone got butt raped four years ago and liked it so much they've come over to this forum for another shafting! :lol:


i was already in a silly mood... :D
got the munchies too... :ange:

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jyjjy wrote :

I like how even back then the first sentence of the first reply was "So what?"


starting to cry I'm laughin' so hard.

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malmental wrote :

i was already in a silly mood... :D


I guessed as much and I quoted the wrong post as well, doh! The only reason I left this thread open was because I'm fed up with prolim123 posting this nonsense all over the forums so I thought I'd let you guys show him the error of his ways. :ange:

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^
what, he's out for points only.?
there should be some 'erroneous reply or false thread' tag system or some related idea.
once tagged you (dock 'um then block 'um)..

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prolim123 wrote :

the image below willl make you believe it is not true. if you dont believe me, at least believe nvidia.



This part made me lol.

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malmental wrote :

^
what, he's out for points only.?
there should be some 'erroneous reply or false thread' tag system or some related idea.
once tagged you (dock 'um then block 'um)..


When posts or threads are deleted any and all points are lost as well, this also goes for those that post in threads that go on to be deleted.

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^ turboflame
I know, naive huh.? or just plain ignorant..

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malmental wrote :

^ turboflame
I know, naive huh.? or just plain ignorant..


Whats your point ?

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Mousemonkey wrote :

When posts or threads are deleted any and all points are lost as well, this also goes for those that post in threads that go on to be deleted.



but points is what it's all about MM...
you know getting your name out there so you can show your trolling friends that you know something.
also show it to your on-line girlfriend that lives in another hemisphere that doesn't even speak your language to ask you for help because you know it all.

DISCLAIMER:
I do not intentionally mean to hurt OP's feelings or any other troll 'trollin' this thread.. excuse the pun.. :kaola:
if your on-line girlfriend doesn't speak the same language, please use google translator. thanks.
I received NO money from google for that remark.


I guess it's not about passing knowledge and assisting other techies, that would be "to helpful in the world of computing" by allowing people
to build, maintain, test and 'become individualist', save money so on, so on.
well damn if that's the case, I need a good porn site.. :whistle:

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notty22 wrote :

Whats your point ?


which one.?
this thread, the OP that started it or you for taking it seriously.?
take a pick or for free, you can have them all.

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malmental wrote :

which one.?
this thread, the OP that started it or you for taking it seriously.?
take a pick or for free, you can have them all.


Who said I took this seriously ? The Herb ? Watch out, it can stagnate ya'

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notty22 wrote :

Who said I took this seriously ? The Herb ? Watch out, it can stagnate ya'


you get points for that one.
too-shay.. lol

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Reply to malmental

:)
The whole thing piqued my curiosity. I have a 2400 hd in a dell 530 I bought 3 years ago. Its now my htpc. Gave them 60 dollars extra I believe back then.

Reply to notty22

funny thing bro.
i had the hd2400 in my dell gx280 and the 8400gs in my e521 at first purchase.
how's that for coincidence.? crazy..


Message edited by malmental on 10-15-2010 at 03:58:13 AM
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The 2400 worth that much then?

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^jaydeejohn - i eBay'd mine for $30 w/ shipping about 2+ years ago, buy not auction.

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Mousemonkey wrote :

Just in case eyefinity needs reminding.

SWF file




To be fair, the room temperature could have been below 64c. Inside of a computer case the temp is going to be that or above. It was also (obviously) open, so the air circulation is incomparable.

Lastly; why not stress it with Furmark?


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