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December 9, 2010 10:27:33 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP


Budget Range: $1500 Before Rebates (At least before MIR)


System Usage from Most to Least Important: (CS5; other Adobe products including video editing; Civ V and other similar games; Websurfing)


Parts Not Required: Case (I bought a Cooler Master 932 HAF on Black Friday); Monitor (I have two); Keyboard; Mouse


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg and Tigerdirect


Country of Origin: U.S. and A. (San Diego to be exact)


Parts Preferences: Intel (preferably the i7 950, this is not a strict requirement though that's why I'm coming to you guys)


Overclocking: Yes


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, I'd rather stick with 1 card ...lets parts to go wrong and all that...


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 and 1680 x 1050 although the later will most likely be upgraded to a new, larger monitor soon.


Additional Comments: This is my first build. I have done quite a bit of research over the last year in preparation for this and have a pretty good idea of what to buy and how to build it, although it's always an adventure trying something for the first time. I'm open to any suggestions you guys may have. I have done an initial build outline but I don't want to influence any opinions, so I'm leaving it wide open. Remember, I will be doing most of my work in CS5 and Premier with gaming coming a much less important second. Thank you all in advance for your help!

Marc

December 10, 2010 12:44:39 AM

My first suggestion is to wait till 9th Jan, 2011 for Intel new CPU's to get better performance. If wait aint an option then following are my components selection.

CPU+MOBO: Intel Core i7 950 + ASUS Sabertooth X58 (464$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
RAM: G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (94$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit (349$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM (69$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SATA II (229$) > Boot Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W 80+ (109$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HEATSINK: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 (29$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD: ASUS DRW SATA 24X DVD Burner (19$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS: Win 7 Home 64bit (99$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1,469

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December 10, 2010 1:26:06 AM

mianmars said:
My first suggestion is to wait till 9th Jan, 2011 for Intel new CPU's to get better performance. If wait aint an option then following are my components selection.

CPU+MOBO: Intel Core i7 950 + ASUS Sabertooth X58 (464$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
RAM: G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (94$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit (349$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM (69$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SATA II (229$) > Boot Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W 80+ (109$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HEATSINK: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 (29$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD: ASUS DRW SATA 24X DVD Burner (19$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS: Win 7 Home 64bit (99$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1,469


This is very similar to my build idea, same mobo/processor/GPU. A couple questions:

I know that CS5 loves to use RAM, what do you think of 12 GB?

Is a 120 GB SSD really necessary? Why not a 60 GB, won't that fit my OS and most of my frequently used programs?

Since I plan on overclocking, we'll need to budget in a cpu cooler.

Thanks for the reply!
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December 10, 2010 1:39:32 AM

I use CS5 all the time as well, I have OCZ 12Gb ram and only during HD rendering in premiere it uses about 7-8gb ram and other programs are all below 6gb of ram use. so thats y i didn't suggested a 12GB ram, i have a 60GB SSD and its enough for all my applications and OS, i think u should go for 2 x 60GB SSD, 1 for boot drive & apps etc and the other one for working files of photoshop or video files to be read/write fast. But if its hurting ur budget then a single 60GB SSD would be fine as well, u can add another one later.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 10, 2010 3:03:14 AM

Waiting for Sandybridge makes sense if ya going with a 1156 based build.....unless ya wanna wait till summer, we won't see the successor to what we have on the 1366 platform until then.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/holiday-gift-guide-...

Quote:
As chipsets go, Intel's X58 is approaching its golden years as a technological senior citizen. That doesn't mean it's time for this platform to head over to the shuffleboard court, though. Although Intel's 2+ year-old flagship chipset is at the age when most high-end components are put out to pasture, it will remain at the forefront of Intel's enthusiast lineup until LGA 2011 emerges in the second half of 2011. That'll make it nearly three years old!

We already know Sandy Bridge will be here early January, so what about that? Intel’s focus there is going to be the mid-range market. While we'd hold off on buying any LGA 1156-based boards or CPUs until then, it's still open season on X58, as far as we're concerned, for the folks who need more than 16 lanes of integrated PCI Express 2.0 connectivity. We've tested a lot of revised X58 motherboards lately, and one of our favorites is Asus' Rampage III Formula.


Here's a recent build I did for one of my son's buddies

PSU - $120 - XFX Black Edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo / CPU - $464 - Asus Sabertooth w/ Intel i7-950 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $250 - Two sets of 3 x 2GB Mushkin CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $350 - Asus GTX 570 OC'd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $70 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - Later - OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $80 - ASUS BR Model BC-08B1LT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $100 - Win 7-64 Home OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$1480

I planned on ya having enough oomph to add a 2nd GFX card w/o a PSU upgrade. If you're gonna OC and have two GFX cards, I'd be more comfortable with a better PSU than a TX series.....I'd suggest a Corsair HX850, AnXFX Black Edition, Antec SG-850 or CP-850 series. The CP however wont fit in the 932.
I threw in a Blue Ray given ya planned usage.....if ya don't need it, there's another $60.


With ya budget, there's some tough choices. CS5 gonna want that 12 GB .... but do ya give up the SSD to get it ? If It were me, I'd get the SSD now .... and 6 GB of RAM (DDR3-1600 CAS 7) ....and add the other 6 when ya have more $$$. Much easier to install an extra 3 modules than reinstall the OS on an SSD

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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 10, 2010 3:39:31 AM

What I love about that build. Mushkin FTW.

BTW incase no one explained. You want a Nvidia GPU perferably anything above the 460's level since you'll be able to take advantage of the Cuda Cores with Mercury engine in Adobe software. (mainly Premiere and After effects)
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December 10, 2010 4:16:56 AM

mianmars said:
I use CS5 all the time as well, I have OCZ 12Gb ram and only during HD rendering in premiere it uses about 7-8gb ram and other programs are all below 6gb of ram use. so thats y i didn't suggested a 12GB ram, i have a 60GB SSD and its enough for all my applications and OS, i think u should go for 2 x 60GB SSD, 1 for boot drive & apps etc and the other one for working files of photoshop or video files to be read/write fast. But if its hurting ur budget then a single 60GB SSD would be fine as well, u can add another one later.


Good to know, I definitely have a decision to make. Thanks.
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December 10, 2010 4:21:33 AM

aznshinobi said:
I suggest waiting for SB. Just saying.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-pre...

SB seems to do exceptionally well in PS5 or any Adobe program.

I have read articles similar to the one Jack posted and I've decided not to wait for Sandy Bridge because it just doesn't seem worth it unless I'm going to wait all the way until the end of 2011. As I need the system up and running very soon, I think my best bet is with 1366.

JackNaylorPE said:
Waiting for Sandybridge makes sense if ya going with a 1156 based build.....unless ya wanna wait till summer, we won't see the successor to what we have on the 1366 platform until then.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/holiday-gift-guide-...

Quote:
As chipsets go, Intel's X58 is approaching its golden years as a technological senior citizen. That doesn't mean it's time for this platform to head over to the shuffleboard court, though. Although Intel's 2+ year-old flagship chipset is at the age when most high-end components are put out to pasture, it will remain at the forefront of Intel's enthusiast lineup until LGA 2011 emerges in the second half of 2011. That'll make it nearly three years old!

We already know Sandy Bridge will be here early January, so what about that? Intel’s focus there is going to be the mid-range market. While we'd hold off on buying any LGA 1156-based boards or CPUs until then, it's still open season on X58, as far as we're concerned, for the folks who need more than 16 lanes of integrated PCI Express 2.0 connectivity. We've tested a lot of revised X58 motherboards lately, and one of our favorites is Asus' Rampage III Formula.


Here's a recent build I did for one of my son's buddies

PSU - $120 - XFX Black Edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo / CPU - $464 - Asus Sabertooth w/ Intel i7-950 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $250 - Two sets of 3 x 2GB Mushkin CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $350 - Asus GTX 570 OC'd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $70 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - Later - OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $80 - ASUS BR Model BC-08B1LT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $100 - Win 7-64 Home OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$1480

I planned on ya having enough oomph to add a 2nd GFX card w/o a PSU upgrade. If you're gonna OC and have two GFX cards, I'd be more comfortable with a better PSU than a TX series.....I'd suggest a Corsair HX850, AnXFX Black Edition, Antec SG-850 or CP-850 series. The CP however wont fit in the 932.
I threw in a Blue Ray given ya planned usage.....if ya don't need it, there's another $60.


With ya budget, there's some tough choices. CS5 gonna want that 12 GB .... but do ya give up the SSD to get it ? If It were me, I'd get the SSD now .... and 6 GB of RAM (DDR3-1600 CAS 7) ....and add the other 6 when ya have more $$$. Much easier to install an extra 3 modules than reinstall the OS on an SSD


This is a great build template and some great advice. Thank you everyone in this thread for helping me out. I'm going to make my purchase within the next few days, so I'll post an update as soon as everything's ordered. Thanks again!
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 10, 2010 4:28:06 AM

^ End of 2011? Sandy Bridge comes out on the first month of 2011. Exactly one month from now. Not a year.
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December 10, 2010 5:24:04 AM

aznshinobi said:
^ End of 2011? Sandy Bridge comes out on the first month of 2011. Exactly one month from now. Not a year.


Sorry for being unclear, I was referring to this portion of Jack's quoted article:

Quote:
Although Intel's 2+ year-old flagship chipset is at the age when most high-end components are put out to pasture, it will remain at the forefront of Intel's enthusiast lineup until LGA 2011 emerges in the second half of 2011. That'll make it nearly three years old!


I think the higher end 2011 procs won't hit the market until the second half of the year. Perhaps I'm wrong though.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 10, 2010 5:37:13 AM

Oh well the i5 2400S is hitting stores this January. And as you can see. It beats out the current i7's easily. You notice it even owns the 980X sometimes, and is pretty much on par. Plus SB OC's so easily. (if you do OC) It (from Intel's words) gets up to 4.9ghz on hard core air cooling. Like the NH-D14 or Venomous X.
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December 10, 2010 5:39:13 AM

aznshinobi said:
Oh well the i5 2400S is hitting stores this January. And as you can see. It beats out the current i7's easily. You notice it even owns the 980X sometimes, and is pretty much on par. Plus SB OC's so easily. (if you do OC) It (from Intel's words) gets up to 4.9ghz on hard core air cooling. Like the NH-D14 or Venomous X.


Holy crap, I was unaware it compared so favorably to current high end i7's. But I want a computer now so bad! Ha.
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December 12, 2010 7:25:15 AM

If the video editing you're going to be doing is for any kind of professional or educational (say college) purpose, then you should really consider ditching the SSD in favor of a RAID 1 or RAID 10 setup.

If you don't know already, a RAID 1 setup uses two identical drives, and one backsup the other drive in real time (files are simultaneously written to both drives), if one drive fails, you get a notification of the drive failure, but otherwise can continue on as usual, and replace it the next chance you get. It's important to remember that with this setup, you'll only get half the data out of your two drives, so only 1TB out of two 1TB drives.

RAID 0 runs two drives in tandem, splitting files between both of them. The advantage being that you get almost double the speed out of your HDD, but you also get double the chance that a drive will fail, since if one of the two fails, you lose all of your data. With this type of RAID, you get the full storage space out of your drives.

RAID 10 combines the two, backups, and increased speed.


If you dropped the SSD, you could run a RAID 10 array for about the same price. You'd possibly get better speed when writing files and such, 2TB of storage, and a backup capable of withstanding any single drive failure and some multiple drive failure.


To be clear, that would mean buying,

http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-3463938-10521304?sid=&URL=... x4 $280

If anyone knows of any benchmarks which show the SSD to be a notable amount faster than a RAID 10 array, please link them, but from what I've heard it isn't really worth it to buy a SSD at this point, especially not for more than a boot drive.
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December 12, 2010 6:07:14 PM

yakri said:
If the video editing you're going to be doing is for any kind of professional or educational (say college) purpose, then you should really consider ditching the SSD in favor of a RAID 1 or RAID 10 setup.

If you don't know already, a RAID 1 setup uses two identical drives, and one backsup the other drive in real time (files are simultaneously written to both drives), if one drive fails, you get a notification of the drive failure, but otherwise can continue on as usual, and replace it the next chance you get. It's important to remember that with this setup, you'll only get half the data out of your two drives, so only 1TB out of two 1TB drives.

RAID 0 runs two drives in tandem, splitting files between both of them. The advantage being that you get almost double the speed out of your HDD, but you also get double the chance that a drive will fail, since if one of the two fails, you lose all of your data. With this type of RAID, you get the full storage space out of your drives.

RAID 10 combines the two, backups, and increased speed.


If you dropped the SSD, you could run a RAID 10 array for about the same price. You'd possibly get better speed when writing files and such, 2TB of storage, and a backup capable of withstanding any single drive failure and some multiple drive failure.


To be clear, that would mean buying,

http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-3463938-10521304?sid=&URL=... x4 $280

If anyone knows of any benchmarks which show the SSD to be a notable amount faster than a RAID 10 array, please link them, but from what I've heard it isn't really worth it to buy a SSD at this point, especially not for more than a boot drive.



VERY interesting, thanks for the info. I've always heard of RAID configurations but have never taken the time to actually learn what they are. I haven't ordered my storage drives yet and I'm very tempted to now get a 60GB SSD for boot and a 1TB RAID 10 configuration.
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December 12, 2010 8:34:25 PM

Glad I could help.

I forgot to mention you should check the spec's on your motherboard to make sure it supports RAID though, most quality mobo's will, but a few don't. (RAID is made possible by a hardware controller, like I said, most motherboards will have one, but if they don't you can't do it).


PS. Your HD needs to be compatible with RAID too, but the HD from JackNaylor's build template has a nice review on it from someone who ran two of them in RAID 0, probably worth reading.

Also, if you can stand to wait until Jan 5th, even if you don't want to go for a sandybridge CPU, there is a possiblity that the current i7's will drop in price once the sandybridge CPU's enter the market.
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December 18, 2010 11:10:35 PM

Best answer selected by mogusmaximus.
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