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December 12, 2010 2:03:05 PM

Good day,

I am looking for some advise for building or finding two budget gaming desktop for my two boys. They wanted laptops (HP Pavilion dv6-3143u or Acer Aspire AS7741G-7017), but I think I can build a better, more cost effective desktop solution.

Approximate Purchase Date: Between now and Christmas
Budget Range: $500-700 USD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, surfing the internet
Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, OS
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: any
Country of Origin: United States
Parts Preferences:None
Overclocking: no preference
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Additional comments: I'm not looking for a Cadillac solution, rather something between a ford Taurus and Honda accord with leather seats. The kids are casual gamers so so building modular system that would allow future upgrades would be good. They play WOW on imac using ATI Radeon HD 4670 card with only 256MB of RAM.

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December 12, 2010 2:08:22 PM

Any monitor recommendations 17 - 21" range?
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December 12, 2010 2:22:24 PM

Ya my 1st choice was to hit min a 23" but could be TS has space limitation, etc
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December 12, 2010 8:21:58 PM

It's not a combo deal, but how does the ECS Black Series A785GM-M stack up? Newegg has it 44.99 after rebate.
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December 12, 2010 11:42:28 PM

mattius92 said:
Check this out.

Athlon II x4 630 Quad + ASUS 790GX Mobo. $170

http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-de...

I had a similar thought about going to Athlon II x4 640. I thought Athlon II x4 might be a good comprise (price & performance) between the Athlon II x3 450 and the Phenom II X4 965. There are lots of options out there and I'm starting to get confused and snow blind. I'm not sure what I should be looking for in a MO.

With rebate this one comes to 134.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Combo on this is $164. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

How do those compare to the the link you supplied?

Reaping the posts it looks like 4 option. Looking for opinions here. Which appear to be the best bargain?

http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-de...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Just want to let everyone know who has responded that I appreciate their input.



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December 13, 2010 1:23:16 AM

Personally I would stay away from Micro ATX mobos, they just don't have many expandability options and everything kinda seems cramped on the board.

The two best bargains I see is the Gigabyte/Athlon X4 combo and the ASUS/Athlon x4 combo.

I researched that ASUS board, and that thing alone goes for $110 on Newegg.

The ECS one is pretty good, its just an Micro-ATX. So if you don't care then go with that one.
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December 13, 2010 7:46:01 AM

Hmm if Microcenter is out here's an all Egg build ^^

$570AR, upgrade 768/192 GTX 460 to 1GB/256 one hehe
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December 14, 2010 2:42:35 AM

Still trying to digest my options. I appreciate batuchka & mattius92 input.
I'm 50/50 on the ATX -vs- micro atx.
I'm leaning toward some version the Phenom II x4 CPU. I'm wondering if the 2.8 ghz CPU speed of the Athlon II x4 630 Quad will be fast enough.
The first config of 503AR seems hard to beat but 570 still isn't too shabby.
thanks

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December 14, 2010 3:24:53 AM

Really the only difference from an Athlon II x4 and an Phenom II x4 is that the Phenom has 6MB of L3 cache. L3 cache isnt that important in gaming, it helps but nothing massively significant.

You could always do a slight Overclock to that Athlon to boost it to like 3.3 Ghz. However a 2.8 ghz quad isnt bad.
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December 14, 2010 4:51:48 AM

icepickjazz said:
Still trying to digest my options. I appreciate batuchka & mattius92 input.
I'm 50/50 on the ATX -vs- micro atx.
I'm leaning toward some version the Phenom II x4 CPU. I'm wondering if the 2.8 ghz CPU speed of the Athlon II x4 630 Quad will be fast enough.
The first config of 503AR seems hard to beat but 570 still isn't too shabby.
thanks


Yep , budget willing always go PhenomII over AthlonII - WOW Cata in particular is a classic example of how L3 gives considerable advantages in games :lol: 
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December 14, 2010 3:14:38 PM

go Phenom II, Bat is an expert at budget builds with a punch.
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December 15, 2010 2:17:57 AM

in the case of micro atx -vs- atx. Budget will win again. At this time I don't foresee running multiple video cards, multiple hard drives, etc.
You are right 570 is still a good deal.
not sure how you guys keep up on this, but I am amazed.
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December 15, 2010 9:34:55 AM

Yep happy shopping/building and cheers ^^
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December 17, 2010 1:18:06 AM

I'm in a pinch now. I didn't realize how quickly the combos change and most the combos bat recommended aren't available anymore. I thought I was going to get another store to match the microcenter special. Turns out I was wrong & wasted time. My wife is on me to get something ordered for the boys. I'm about 1.5 hours from a micro center. Since I'm looking at 2 identical rigs if the cost difference is warrants a drive there & back I'd even entertain that as well. I'd still like to stick with the 955 or 965

Could I trouble one last time for config assistance?
Thanks in advance.

This is a Frankenstein from other posts including this one. I could go with a ZOTAC ZT-40402-10P GeForce GTX 460 for extra $30.00
$531 AR
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December 18, 2010 3:09:58 PM

It is not in my nature to buy anything at spur of the moment. I flirted with x3 450, but think I have settled back on Phenom X4.

Have been looking at all sorts of variations to the point where my head is starting to spin.

Here's a slight variation that is a few $ more. Is it worth the extra $? 531.92 AR & Promos

$35 in promo codes:
Apply Discount From Promo Code EMCZNZV33
Discount From Promo Code EMCZNZV25
Discount From Promo Code EMCZNZR53



If I we wanted to step up to MoBo that supported SLI or Crossfire, what you you recommend?
I'm still 50/50 on the ZOTAC ZT-40402-10P GeForce GTX 460 for extra $30.00 or the Asus ENGTX460.
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December 18, 2010 4:37:48 PM

I would suggest a HD 6850 CF capable config

$616AR



HD6K Barts: single/CF review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-685...
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December 18, 2010 5:26:07 PM

Funny how budget is shifting. I will take a look. Would like option of second card in the future.
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December 18, 2010 7:02:30 PM

+1 to HD 6850 Crossfire. My first build I forgot to budget an operating system :p 
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December 18, 2010 8:22:05 PM

If I knew i was going to run 2 cards 6850 CF looks like good option. If I wasn't sure when 2nd card would be added, which would be better option one 5770, 5850, or one 6580?
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December 19, 2010 8:21:23 AM

One HD 6850 of course unless u could land a HD5850 on the (dirt) cheap
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December 26, 2010 12:01:38 PM

bat -- thanks for all the advice. Appreciated all your suggestions. Boys really like the new computer. I ended up purchasing only one computer -- Stretched my budget a bit. We will be purchasing second computer in a 3 or 4 weeks. Hopefully I can have you validate config then too. Thanks again.
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December 28, 2010 11:28:22 PM

Best answer selected by icepickjazz.
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