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Sub-1500 Gaming PC, please help and review. Suggestions Welcome!

Approximate Purchase Date: Variable (Dependant on a check), but within two-three weeks.

Budget Range: <1500 before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, movies, everyday computing,

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers, Dvd/CD drive.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com/Microcenter (there is one a few hours away so discount must be justified by gas cost heh) I am open to other sites too. Help me find the cheapest pc/best performance please!

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, AMD video cards (I've used Nvidia for all my past builds, from recent news, AMD seems better)

Overclocking: Yes to a degree

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, Crossfire definitely. I know people say buy a good single card to upgrade to two, and this might be an option with the 69xx's, so I won't toss it out. But, by the time I will need to upgrade I will be building a new pc (2-3 yrs)

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050, 1920x1080 (My current monitor is 1680x1050, but I am purchasing three ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P or better come Jan/Feb)

Additional Comments: I honestly really like the case I picked out, The other parts are interchangeable to me. The mobo might be expensive, but if, and this is a big if, I do need to upgrade graphics, it can handle more. same with usb 3.0 and sata 6.

All prices shown are before mail-in-rebates, though I will type the rebate beside it.

From Newegg

AZZA Solano 1000 Black/Black Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517004 109.99 30.00 rebate

XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150506 239.99 each 2x = 479.98 10.00 rebate each

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 129.99 10.00 rebate

ASUS Rampage III Formula LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131666 299.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304 109.99

ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019 52.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007 9.99

Sub-Total: 1,192.92

Shipping: 16.99

Total after Shipping: 1,209.91

Rebates: 60.00

From MicroCenter

Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340562 59.99

Core i7-950 3.06GHz Boxed Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0346210 199.99

Sub-Total: 259.98

Tax: 13.00

Total after Tax: 272.98


Full Total (From both sites): 1482.89
-60.00
1422.89


Also: 11.5 gallons of gas for round-trip, so about 40 bucks for gas.

Thanks in advance and to the people who helped me before and motivated me to make a better, more easily understood post.
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More about 1500 gaming review suggestions welcome
  1. Quote:
    System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, movies, everyday computing


    Given simple games + 24/7 i would suggest a humbler set up with more teeth in the GPU dept hehe

    Items off Egg $543 (since u have ODD)


    Items off Microcenter $170 (965BE + MSI 785G-E53)
    http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundlePROMO.html
    $713 Total

    Optionals

    60GB Sandforce based SSD $99AR
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227542

    Scythe SCMG-2100 MUGEN-2 Rev.B 5 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler $29 with promo code
    http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MUGENB&title=Scythe-SCMG-2100-MUGEN-2-Rev-B-5-Heat-Pipes-CPU-Cooler
  2. Perhaps I should have clarified, these aren't going to be simple games, I should have said intense gaming probably. And be able to play games for the next couple of years.

    Thanks though, I dont really want Nvidia GPU.
  3. There is also this mobo, though I can't tell for certain if the cf would run at 16x/16x, can someone help?

    ASRock X58 Extreme 3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157189&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

    189.99
  4. Another mobo possibility is this:

    ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641
    234.99

    I'm liking this one. saves me some money too.

    What do you guys think?

    Microcenter is cheaper for this board

    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334224#

    229.99

    they also have two open boxes for the product at my store. Should I check them out? 45 dollars cheaper at 183.96?
  5. bump, I could really use the input. Thanks guys.
  6. bump again, please help.
  7. bump again, no responses. at least give me a cursory review please.
  8. batuchka's card is faster than a 6870 but the day after tomorrow AMD will launch the new HD 6950/6970, so it's worth waiting.
  9. Two radeon 6870's out-performs one gtx 570's by a fair margin.

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-review/16

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-crossfirex-review/13

    And I wouldn't be getting 2x 570 in sli in the future. I did say I wanted to keep to AMD video cards, and yup, I figured waiting would be a good idea.
  10. I didn't see that you were going to buy two of them. Get a single HD 6970 then. :)
    And you can get a cheaper mobo and PSU.
  11. Any suggestions for the cheaper mobo and psu?

    I trust corsair and I will be overclocking the cpu and gpu's so the 850 gives me the headroom to do that safely in my opinion. But I am open to suggestions.

    P6X58D-E LGA 1366 X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334224
    229.99 - new
    183.96 - open box/refurbished

    This mobo the one I've kinda settled on, plenty of room for a cpu cooler and the ram modules run off of a 212121 set-up rather than 121212 so that way if the cpu cooler covers the first ram slot I am still good to go.

    Also has plenty of room in the pci-e x16 slots so the cfx'd cards aren't too close and having the main card from picking up external heat from the 2nd card.

    I was going to check over their refurbished one to see how it looks cause that isn't a bad discount and since this is in-store I can and will be able to check it over.

    Anything I should look for on the refurbished one?

    I am open to suggestions just give me more than "I can do this" please. I researched it pretty intensely and I would like some good help since I haven't built in a while.

    And honestly. It depends on the price of the 6970's. Two 6870's are great now and can only get better with future tweaking/driver updates. They will last me for a long long time to come. But you know how it is, the newer, the better, so I am waiting for 6970's to come out.
  12. The D-E is nice. For the PSU 750W is more than enough.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
    semi-modular:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371022
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371025
    modular, Seasonic inside (but not cheaper)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003

    I assumed a 300W TDP for the HD 6970, it will be lower but even with that 750W is plenty.

    LE go to the Asus mobo page and see what RAM did they test with that mobo.

    LE That Zalman cooler doesn't look like it's good for 1366 sockets. You can get the Cooler Master Hyper 212+.

    LE if you can see the open box (not refurbished) mobo it's fine. Check to see if anything is missing. See here the last small pic:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641&cm_re=asus_p6x58d-e_lga_1366_intel_x58_sata_6gb%2fs_usb_3.-_-13-131-641-_-Product
  13. Ok, so they do have an open box (not refurbished), should i just print a picture of the mobo and check it against it? heh

    I mean, with the cpu cooler I was going by the case reviews where one person gave the max height that would fit and I think the cooler master is too tall.

    Maybe I'm wrong?
  14. Best answer
    No, I mean the package contains the mobo and some other stuff you can see in that pic. Some of it might be missing. You can't really check the mobo unless you test it but I suppose they will take it back if not working (ask them).

    - Rear I/O shield - you need that they better have it.
    - SATA cables - no big problem, you can buy some cheap.
    - Crossfire bridge - You get one with any AMD video card
    - SLI bridge - you don't need that
    - Manual and CD with drivers - can be found and downloaded online, no problem.

    The HSF won't work unless it says it's for 1366 socket. Very good wider cheaper cases
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSe657KCJWM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4XCT9yibwQ
  15. I was going for max cooling, I mean, I could get a wider case, but everyone has their preferences you know?

    As for the cpu cooler, I just realized I posted the wrong one hahaha, I switched it after I posted it because I realized the same thing.

    ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED 120mm 2 Ball Low-noise Blue LED CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118046
    64.99

    Slightly more expensive, but I like the reviews and the looks. What about that one?
  16. Since the forums won't let me edit the original post for some reason, here is the new, updated and edited build.


    From Newegg

    AZZA Solano 1000 Black/Black Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front ATX Full Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517004 109.99 30.00 rebate

    XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150506 239.99 each 2x = 479.98 10.00 rebate each

    CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 129.99 10.00 rebate

    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304 109.99

    ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED 120mm 2 Ball Low-noise Blue LED CPU Cooler [EDIT]
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118046 64.99

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007 9.99

    Sub-Total: 904.93

    Shipping: 22.80

    Total after Shipping: 927.73

    Rebates: 60.00

    From MicroCenter

    Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340562 59.99

    Core i7-950 3.06GHz Boxed Processor
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0346210 199.99

    P6X58D-E LGA 1366 X58 ATX Intel Motherboard [EDIT]
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334224 229.99

    Sub-Total: 489.97

    Tax: 24.50

    Total after Tax: 514.47


    Full Total (From both sites): 1442.20
    -60.00
    1382.20
  17. Looks good but that HSF seems to be bigger than the CM Hyper 212.
  18. On newegg they just give dimensions for the fan, the heat sink dimensions are:

    Dimension
    120 x 79.7 x 158.5 mm (L x W x H)

    + Fan dimensions are 120 x 25 x 120 mm (L x W x H)

    so total dimensions would be

    120 x 104.7 x 158.5 mm (L x W x H)

    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/coolermaster_hyper_212_plus/3.htm

    The Zalman cooler total dimensions are:


    94(L) x 131(W) x 152(H) mm

    http://www.pro-clockers.com/cooling/176-zalman-cnps9900-led-cpu-cooler.html

    So while it is slightly wider, it is shorter and slightly less long.

    I'm not too worried about the width, but with the case I picked out, they said that the Height is a big problem because you would have to remove the side panel fan (which I don't want)

    Here are the reviews:

    AMAZING...except for onr little thing...
    Pros: This case must have been designed by someone who has gone through ALL of the headaches of putting a system together. It is so TECH / USER friendly! I actually enjoyed putting my system together! Everthing about this case, from the removable hard drive bays, to the extra room given for longer video cards, to the bottom power supply location, to the super easy to figure out wiring, to the heavy duty and robust construction, to the 3 front USB ports, to all the cooling options, etc, etc, etc, is just perfect. Except for one, minor thing...

    Cons: Ok, here it is...
    If you happen to have a very tall cpu cooler fan( I have the Corsair A50), you are going to have to live without the big side cooling fan. Unfortunately, becaused of the height of the cpu fan and the depth of the side panel fan, you need to remove the side panel fan in order to close the side panel. No biggie... but obviously I would prefer to be running the fan.

    Other Thoughts: I dont care about having to remove the side panel fan... the case is awesome and I wouldnt trade it for ANY other.


    KC
    12/5/2010 10:48:01 AM
    Tech Level:
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    Verified Owner
    low clearance for CPU cooler
    Pros: Lots of cooling capability. I especially like the 140mm fans for the two quad-hard-drive cages.

    Cons: One big problem for me is that I installed a 159mm tall CPU heat sink (with 120mm fan). After I put everything together, I could not close the lid.... :-(
    The gigantic 230mm fan on the lid has a 30mm thickness and there isn't room with the CPU heat sink. I will need to replace the CPU heat sink that is no taller than 141mm height.


    So after reading that, I don't even know if the cooler I picked out is good enough.
  19. Scythe SCRT-1000 120mm Sleeve New High-End Top-Flow CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185155
    49.99

    What about this one? I think I had it on my old build.
  20. Looks nice. That's a new cooler, you probably had the Kabuto.
  21. I meant the build I came up with before this one haha, but yeah, seems alright. Thing is I plan on overclocking, but with this and the 230mm fan on the side case blowing right on top of the cpu I think I should be good on temperature.

    What do you think?
  22. Have you looked at the Asus X58 Sabertooth?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665&cm_re=sabertooth-_-13-131-665-_-Product

    only 199.99, would save you a few bucks

    Edit: And you may not like NVidia for whatever reason and that's fine but +1 to the GTX570
  23. Best answer selected by RightHandMan.
  24. Thanks for the input guys, After careful deliberation and reading more reviews. (and finding out I had an extra 600 bucks to play with) I decided to go with

    2x evga 570 gtx

    Kingwin mach 1 1000w psu

    and the Msi big bang-xpower mobo.

    With the new mobo I chose the video cards are farther away so less heat/more airflow.

    The psu is just a precaution so I don't burn my house down. and it is modular and 90 bucks off

    The video cards are chose are going to be limited by my cpu, I realize this, but they will also be good for a long long time to come, So when I upgrade my cpu with one of the last production 1366 sockets next q4 I will be good.

    Thanks a lot guys and take care.
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