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December 13, 2010 3:46:01 AM

Hi guys,
I'm trying to get the best gaming computer for my buck. My budget is around $850. I have two separate builds so far and am seeking advice on which one is preferred. One build being an Intel processor and the other being an AMD Phenom. If there are any parts that should be replaced for something else, please let me know. Any help at all is greatly appreciated!

1st Build
Intel Core i5 660 3.33GHz (Dual Core) 4000K
Intel Socket 1156 CPU fan
ASUS P7P55 LX DDR3, Cross Fire, GB LAN, iEEE
4GB (2x2GB) PC10600 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel
ATI CrossFire Radeon HD 5570 1GB x2 PCI Express 16x, HDMI (2 cards)
500GB Western Digital 7200 RPM SATA2 UDMA 300 16m cache
LG 22x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW
Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
wireless 802.11 G 54MBs Network Card PCI
APEVI X-Cruiser 2 Silver, Side Window, front USB, iEEE, Temp control
Logisys 600W ATX Power Supply, SLI & X-fire ready

2nd Build
AMD Phenom II x6 1055T 2.8GHz (Six Core) 45nm, AM3 6MB Cache
Spire Kestrel-King II AMD 64 fan
ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO, Onboard Video, HDMI, X-fire, SATA3, USB3.0, iEEE
4GB (2x2GB) PC10600 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel
ATI CrossFire Radeon HD 5570 1GB x2 PCI Express 16x, HDMI (2 cards)
500GB Hitachi 7200 RPM SATA2, UDMA 300 8m cache
LG 22x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW
Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Wireless 802.11 G 54MBs Network Card PCI
APEVIA X-Cruiser 2 Silver, Side Window, front USB, iEEE, Temp control
Logisys 600W ATX Power Supply, SLI & X-fire ready

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December 13, 2010 3:52:41 AM

^ For what will the build be used for ? And when have you planned to purchase the PC ??
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December 13, 2010 4:01:49 AM

Gaming mostly. Playing games like WoW, Heroes of Newerth, and StarCraft II. I am trying to make the purchase by the end of this month if possible.
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December 13, 2010 4:15:02 AM

^ If gaming is the priority here, then there are many things to be improved on that build,...
From where will you be buying parts ? Monitor resolution ? Need OS ??
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December 13, 2010 4:35:32 AM

Here is a build -

CPU - Phenom II X4 955

Mobo - A good 880G/ 870 Chipset board from Gigabyte/ ASUS/ MSI/ even ASRock are fine,...

RAM - 4GB DDR3 kit

CASE - Cooler Master HAF 912/ Antec 300/ NZXT Gamma or M59

PSU - 500-550W from Antec EA or TP series/ Corsair/ CM Silent PRO/ OCZ Mod or Fatality or StealthExtreme II series

HDD - Samsung F3 1TB / 500GB

Graphics card - HD 6850/ HD 6870 based on the screen's resolution

So this would add up to say ~$700 range from newegg without combos or anything,...
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December 13, 2010 4:35:40 AM

I already have a windows 7 os ready. id be buying the parts from magic micro. and i cant remember exactly what my monitor resolution is, nothing crazy good. probably a 720p
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December 13, 2010 4:38:29 AM

^ Any specific reason to buy from there ? Buying it as pre-built or you will be assembling the parts ?
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December 13, 2010 4:48:26 AM

was looking to customize it n buy it pre-built but is assembling the parts myself the better way to go? id have to do some research on that
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December 13, 2010 4:55:22 AM

also what do you recommend for the MHz on the 4GB DDR3? 1600, 1333, or 1066?
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December 13, 2010 4:56:30 AM

^ If you are fine with assembling the PC yourselves, then it would be the better and the cheaper way to go,...
Or you could compare the prices and if the difference is minimal, then you can get it assembled where you want to, but make sure you get full warranty on the parts that go into it and not just a standard 1 year warranty...
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December 13, 2010 5:11:24 AM

^^ RAM - If not high overclocking, then the 1333MHz is fine, else the 1600MHz,...
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December 13, 2010 5:20:56 AM

ok i will look into the pre-assembly vs the individual parts here in a min. but so far the new spec are:

CPU - AMD Phenom II x4 955

Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-880GM-USB3

RAM - 4GB DDR3 1333 - i dont think ill be overclocking this comp.

CASE - can i change this out for an APEVIA X-Plorer?

PSU - Antec Basiq 500w

HDD - is it a bad idea if i get a 500GB from western digital? or is the Samsung F3 series the best choice?

Graphics card - ATI Radeon HD 6850

also what about a cpu fan?
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December 13, 2010 7:25:58 AM

^ CASE - you can, but in terms of quality and airflow, I doubt it would be better though,...
Why not check out the NZXT M59 ? It has side-window, with 1 or 2 more fans, would be very good...

PSU - Dont get the Basiq, wither the ECO or TP or EA series are the ones that are 80+ Certified and hence better...

CPU Fan- If not overclocking, then the stock cooler would suffice

HDD - Samsung F3 would be faster,...
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December 13, 2010 5:39:52 PM

would this be an acceptable brand for the RAM?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

for the psu i was told 600 and this was recommended:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

for the psu u recommended is this the model you are referring to?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

for the case what about a coolmaster elite 310? honestly id like the case to be something aesthetically pleasing if possible
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December 14, 2010 1:59:33 AM

^ That is a very good RAM,... But even this would do the job if no overclocking,...
Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - I like the Antec ECO better than that Corsair - Same 40A @ the 12V rails, 3 years warranty compared to the 2 from Corsair, and not to forget it is cheaper...

CASE - Yes the Elite is fine, but it doesnt have as good airflow,... This would be very good
NZXT Gamma
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 14, 2010 6:36:04 AM

I have done a bit of editing on my build, let me know what you think.

HDD - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(is 1TB too much?)

Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-880GM-USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(i saw you recommended mushkin enhanced essentials. would it still be better in this case?)

CASE - Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(i was told this case has pretty good air flow?)

PSU - Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card - ASUS EAH6850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

one last concern is how do i know if all of these parts are compatible?
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December 14, 2010 6:54:45 AM

^ Nice,
RAM - That is a very good one, but this would be better for the same price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this as good for less
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE - It is a very good one, so stick with it

HDD - Too much ? I doubt ;) 

GPU - Get this Gigabyte - Overclocked, cheaper and would be better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 14, 2010 7:24:38 AM

re-edited build

HDD - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-880GMA-UD2H AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE - Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card - GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the price of the final build on newegg came out to $732.56 so i could drop almost another $100 into the machine. any suggestions?
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December 14, 2010 8:58:40 AM

^ You have any plans to upgrade your monitor anytime soon ??
If Yes, then only go with 6870, else that money is well spent on a SSD IMO,...
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December 14, 2010 10:32:36 AM

i went back to the 6850 cuz i dont plan on getting a new monitor any time soon and changed my wireless and dvd drive to the better ones that you suggested. but im not too familiar with ssd's, whats the benefit?
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December 14, 2010 11:25:05 AM

^ SSDs would significantly reduce the boot and app load times, also the apps installed on the SSDs would be snappier,...
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December 15, 2010 10:06:36 PM

i decided to pocket the left over money n save it for something else. last questions,since this mobo has an onboard graphics card, will it interfere with the graphics cards i have chosen? and is this psu definitely powerful enough?

Final Build:

HDD - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-880GMA-UD2H AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE - Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card - GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OP Drive - ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Network Card - TP-LINK TL-WN781ND IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express Wireless Adapter Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, WPA, WPA2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price is $709.91 which fits perfectly into my budget. Thank you for all your help. I greatly appreciate it!
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December 16, 2010 12:39:27 AM

Go For an ASROCK mobo Its value for money
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December 16, 2010 2:01:15 AM

^^ The onboard would not give any trouble as it would automatically be disabled if a graphic card is populated on the PCIe slot,...
If you are still skeptical, then get the 870 boards sans onboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock boards do offer very good value for money, but has 1 major trade-off - Warranty,... They offer only 1 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 16, 2010 2:40:03 AM

^ Well in terms of features ya there is not much difference except that the 870 is a standard ATX board, has more PCI slots and no onboard video...
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December 16, 2010 3:02:00 AM

ok i switched it out. might be a dumb question but does ordering one quantity of that item give me the two 2GB RAM or do i have to order 2 quantities of that item?
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December 16, 2010 3:15:52 AM

^ It is a 2x 2GB kit - means 2 RAM stick of 2GB each,...
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December 16, 2010 3:20:12 AM

ok thanks. thats what i thought. when i added it to my cart for some reason it counted 2 purchases. well im goin to go buy the parts now. thanks for everything
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December 16, 2010 3:21:49 AM

^ When have you planned to purchase the parts ? Do check for combos,...
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December 16, 2010 4:01:43 AM

thanks for the links. im trying to purchase the parts by friday so they will arrive before christmas. good call with the combos too, found a combo that already saved me $30. theres one other combo for the HDD and PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

This combo costs the same amount as the HDD and PSU I already have in my shopping cart, but is this a better value?

heres the psu i have now:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 16, 2010 4:21:08 AM

awesome. got it.
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December 16, 2010 8:44:20 PM

nice. i switched out my card for that one. the only problem now is that the HDD i was planning on getting sold out...
is this a good replacement?

Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARS 1TB 5400 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 17, 2010 2:16:37 AM

yea i was. i checked it this morning and they said it was sold out. but thats good news that its back in stock now
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December 25, 2010 6:06:43 PM

Best answer selected by voldemort7.
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