Help with Christmas/Grad Build

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Approximate Purchase Date: Before Christmas


Budget Range: 900-1100


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming>School(have other computers)


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com


Country of Origin: United States, Ky


Parts Preferences: Monitor whichever is 20inches+. Would like a x58 and I7 but would rather save money on something that would get the job done just as good


Overclocking: Yes


SLI or Crossfire: Yes, something I would enjoy


Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200

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Motherboard and CPU-955 black Edition denab and AMD Mobo GA-890
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.564532

Case - COOLER MASTER Storm Scout
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

Ram- Corsair
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145222

PSU- Corsair
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

Graphics card - Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150506

Hard Drive - Western Digi 6.0gbs 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767

Dvd drive - Asus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Monitor - ASUS VH222H-P Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen Full HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236067

Speakers - Logitech
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121014

Cooling - Cooler Master cpu cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Looking for some help if there are cheaper better alternatives for around the same speed as above. Also I maybe missing something in these specs not sure what it would be.

Thanks for helping and looking :)
 

bavman

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Looks good overall except for your memory. You need to pick something 4gb with only 2 sticks of ram because your cpu runs better with dual channel memory. You picked a triple channel kit meant for i7-9xx cpu's. Also heres a cheaper monitor at the same size/res:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009275
also has free shipping.

Might wanna wait till jan though cause thats when the new lines of cpu are coming from intel, sandy bridge
 
Hmm if u happen to live near a Microcenter:

Items off Egg $563
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Items off MC $170 (965BE + MSI 785G-E53)
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundlePROMO.html

Asus 23" LCD $150AR Free Ship
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236081

$883AR Total
 

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Alright I changed out the Monitor for the one you listed :). Also the Memory I changed to this type
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
Now the total price is down to 989.90

However, i'm still iffy about the entire package it just doesn't seem enough to me. My worries are about the future of the package itself with newer games that will be coming out.

I was checking the x58 boards and I7 processors with the ram in the previous list.
The CPU I would use would be Intel Core i7-950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211

The MB I would use is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423

Making the price jump to 1275 or so.

My question is how much faster is this setup and also more of a future proof than the one I have setup now?
 
Games aren't even X4 optimised as yet and there is a reason why Tom's "Best Gaming CPUs for the Money" monthly reviews call $200 for a chip "Past the Point of Reason" :p


The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bottleneck,2738-16.html
Conclusion: A Trend Toward 3+ Cores

The average optimal number of CPU cores suggested by the test results is 2.75, showing a clear trend towards at least three CPU cores.The question of whether the CPU or GPU is most important is easily answered. If you don't have a multi-core CPU, then upgrade it. If you have a dual-core CPU at around 3 GHz, then invest your money into a graphics card, as most games are GPU-limited. This is not something that will change with new DirectX 11 games.
 
if you're worried about teh 955, consider a 1075t for $55 extra. its 6 cores (and a very few games are taking advantage of that: WoW Cataclysm, metro 2033 both can use all 6 cores, Civ V, Starcraft II, GTA IV & FFXIV use at least 4 cores when available as well, so a 6 core can offload some background processes to speed things up.
 

bavman

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and theres no difference between a x58 or p55 board unless you wanna sli/crossfire 3 or more cards, which wouldnt really work with your budget. Same goes for the quad core amd processors.
 

bavman

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Id still go with the 955 though. If you over clock that you wont be running into any cpu bottlenecks anytime soon. Spend the $50 you save on a better gpu cause thats what gaming will come down to.