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Gigabyte GTX 460 OC 1GB GDDR5 OC Edition or Radion 5870?

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October 18, 2010 3:30:45 PM

Hi everyone,

Just in the process of building my new gaming pc and wondered if anyone could tell me roughly how many percent better is the radeon 5870 compared to Gigabyte GTX 460 OC 1GB GDDR5 OC Edition? The 460 is £100 cheaper

Appreciate any advice you have

Kind regards

Ross

October 18, 2010 3:55:19 PM

60-70% stock clocked and OC version my be less then 55%
October 18, 2010 4:21:22 PM

Since the 6850 and 6870 is set to release within a week, I say you hold your horses and see what prices those cards sell for first. There is a 100% guarantee that price drops are on the way, it's just the matter of how much.
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October 18, 2010 4:39:00 PM

Ok cheers guys I will wait for the new releases. I thought the radeon 5870 was over priced!!!! It's been the same price for a whole year which is crazy!
October 18, 2010 4:42:07 PM

That or the Bank of England printed some more £££ in the last year. :) 
October 18, 2010 5:02:05 PM

Rosco1112 said:
Ok cheers guys I will wait for the new releases. I thought the radeon 5870 was over priced!!!! It's been the same price for a whole year which is crazy!


It is over priced and since it is limited in availability there has been no need for a price drop because people keep buying them up.
a c 388 Î Nvidia
October 18, 2010 5:48:53 PM

Based on today's Tom's Hardware "AMD CrossFire Vs. Nvidia SLI Scaling Analysis", and using the average framerates for a single Gigabyte GTX460 1gb vs. a single 5870:

@ 1920x1080 resolution:
+18% performance for the 5870 vs. GTX460

@ 2560x1600 resolution:
+24% performance for the 5870 vs. GTX460
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-scali...
October 18, 2010 6:19:00 PM

Rosco1112 said:
Hi everyone,

Just in the process of building my new gaming pc and wondered if anyone could tell me roughly how many percent better is the radeon 5870 compared to Gigabyte GTX 460 OC 1GB GDDR5 OC Edition? The 460 is £100 cheaper

Appreciate any advice you have

Kind regards

Ross


What resolution will you be playing at?
October 18, 2010 6:23:33 PM

I'm going to buy a new screen so probs 24inch
a b Î Nvidia
October 18, 2010 8:00:43 PM

17seconds said:
Based on today's Tom's Hardware "AMD CrossFire Vs. Nvidia SLI Scaling Analysis", and using the average framerates for a single Gigabyte GTX460 1gb vs. a single 5870:

@ 1920x1080 resolution:
+18% performance for the 5870 vs. GTX460

@ 2560x1600 resolution:
+24% performance for the 5870 vs. GTX460
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-scali...

They are using a GTX 460 with a factory OC in that article. The latest charts from techpowerup have the HD5870 with a 30% advantage over a reference GTX 460 1gb at 1920x1200.
a b Î Nvidia
October 18, 2010 8:24:40 PM

jyjjy said:
They are using a GTX 460 with a factory OC in that article. The latest charts from techpowerup have the HD5870 with a 30% advantage over a reference GTX 460 1gb at 1920x1200.

That gtx 460 comes at 715mhz, but right underneath it is this disclaimer :
(all clock rates have been set to reference specifications for the purpose of benchmarking)
So its either 675 or 715 , which is on the low side of most gtx 460's.\

edit: I'm confused why the op is choosing between these two cards.
They are in different price points/ performance positioning.
a b Î Nvidia
October 18, 2010 9:17:35 PM

The game selection in the Tom's article is also quite limited and the specific choices are stacked a bit in Nvidia's favor(3 of the 6 are TWIMTB games.) The techpowerup numbers are from 16 games and probably a lot closer to reality.
October 18, 2010 9:59:51 PM

How about we just say about a 24% increase in performance and call it even.
a b Î Nvidia
October 18, 2010 10:06:38 PM

The question is just kind of random, the op needs to narrow his decision about cards that are 100 pounds apart ?
I would go for the gtx 460 or wait and see how amd's new cards perform in certain dx11 area's where the 5 series is a little weak.
Within a week of release, I will mention waiting and see, usually not.
a b Î Nvidia
October 18, 2010 10:10:40 PM

Yeah, the HD5870 is a poor value anyway compared to the GTX 460/70/HD5850 even if it wasn't you would be best off waiting on the HD6000 cards.
a b Î Nvidia
October 18, 2010 10:15:34 PM

mosox said:
That or the Bank of England printed some more £££ in the last year. :) 


Yea the FED has been doing the same state side and so much so the dollar lost 12% of it's purchasing power over the last few months. Gold is on it's way to $1500 an ounce and there are rumors (much more than usual) of a devaluation before the end of Fall or at the very least a temporary shutdown of the financial system till problems can be sorted out.
October 19, 2010 6:40:11 AM

notty22 said:
The question is just kind of random, the op needs to narrow his decision about cards that are 100 pounds apart ?
I would go for the gtx 460 or wait and see how amd's new cards perform in certain dx11 area's where the 5 series is a little weak.
Within a week of release, I will mention waiting and see, usually not.



£100 isn't a load of money so if u lot said the 5870 is 35% better I would have paid the extra but for just a 20% increase I will just wait for the new cards and see how much they are

tbh whichever card I choose it's going to be a lot better than my 8800gtx so I'm happy either way

ross
a b Î Nvidia
October 19, 2010 7:37:32 AM

Rosco1112 said:
£100 isn't a load of money so if u lot said the 5870 is 35% better I would have paid the extra but for just a 20% increase I will just wait for the new cards and see how much they are
It's 30% faster but yes, you should wait for the new cards. The initial cards will be out next week but they are the mid-range models and supposedly will be slightly weaker than the HD5850/70 so you may want to wait until November when the high end of the HD6000 series is due.
BTW what system(cpu/power supply/monitor resolution) will you be putting this in?
October 19, 2010 9:18:23 AM

jyjjy said:
It's 30% faster but yes, you should wait for the new cards. The initial cards will be out next week but they are the mid-range models and supposedly will be slightly weaker than the HD5850/70 so you may want to wait until November when the high end of the HD6000 series is due.
BTW what system(cpu/power supply/monitor resolution) will you be putting this in?



Ok right, I may wait until November then. I think the 5870 is way overpriced as it's been out ages so hopefully the 6 series will replace the 5870 at the same price.

I was gonna buy a core i7 930 have a really powerfully psu already fromy
last rig, a 24 inch momitor as they are pretty
cheap now days and a gigabite p6
deluxe motherboard custom
pc mag reccommmended it.

Why? Would you suggest a replacement of one of these? I think what I
listed there is best value for money at the moment an will get a mid to high end gaming pc

regards

Ross
a b Î Nvidia
October 19, 2010 9:37:44 AM

Well the HD6870 will be out next week. From the leaks so far it seems like it will be slightly weaker than the HD5870 while increasing power efficiency, adding support for 3D gaming and costing significantly less. Next month the HD5950 and HD5970 should be out. Supposedly the HD6970 will improve on the HD5870 by 20-35%. Of course these cards haven't been benchmarked yet but that seems to be current best guess.
As for the rest of the system it looks good. An i5(quadcore) is a better value for the money actually but if you can afford an i7 then why not.
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