Budget Games PC - Athlon or Phenom

Im struggling to decide whether or not to get an Athlon II x4 640 or a Phenom II x4 925 for my budget gaming rig. I have decided on getting a Radeon 6850, 4gb ram etc. but am struggling with cpu choice, and what motherboard would suit these cpus nicely. Thanks
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  1. They're nearly the same, however the 925 will come with a better heatsink.

    IMO, the 925 would be the better buy.

    Do you plan on overclocking?
    What other cards (if any) will you be adding in?
  2. I'd get the $99 Athlon II X4 640 over the $125 Phrnom II X4 925, just because In 2011, I don't think any processor under 3.0 ghz will cut it
  3. ^ I actually disagree, the 925 is a better buy IMO, because of the Deneb arch. Sure it's below 3.0ghz but so are the i7's and they cut the curb just fine. However, I do agree though that the extra kick would make the difference. But since the 925 comes with a better heatsink, I think he'd be able to get to 3.0ghz or 3.1ghz easy with a 925.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/188?vs=81
  4. Thanks, also does the L3 on the Phenom make much of a difference?
  5. Sometimes, it depends on the situation. Check this out.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-l3-cache,2416-6.html
  6. azn is right: the gains from L3 is non more evident in WOW Cata and u could clock a 925 any day while no L3 means no L3 which means a performance hit in some games That said actually for really budget gaming rigs i would actually look at $79 Rana X3 3.2 ghz but if i could spend more than that i would pick 925 over 640 (if just chip alone, not factoring bundles/combos)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103886&Tpk=Rana%20450
  7. I'm confused as to why people are using the stock heatsink as a buying factor on these. It seems the common thought is that any stock heatsink is garbage, so why mention it as a plus to buying one CPU over another?
  8. ^ I'm not sure what your question is... But the thing is, Phenom heatsinks vs Athlon/Intel heatsinks. AMD actually included some pretty decent heatsinks w/ their Phenom's (X4) the Athlons and expecially intel's stock heatsinks suck. The Phenom HSF I'm pretty sure has a 120mm with heatpipes, that's better than most stock hsf.
  9. jaguarmatt said:
    They're nearly the same, however the 925 will come with a better heatsink.

    IMO, the 925 would be the better buy.

    Do you plan on overclocking?
    What other cards (if any) will you be adding in?


    I guess i wont overclock initially, im fairly new to that sort of thing, though i hear its pretty simple. I think i will most likely overclock later on (a year or so).
    As far as other cards, other than the graphics card, i may add a tv tuner, but not really anything else.
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