Noob needs help with new computer build

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I am building a new computer and trying to future proof it as well I pretty much know what components I want except for the motherboard, i7 processor and possibly memory.

Here is what I am definitely getting

Cooling:
CORSAIR Hydro H70 CWCH70 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181013&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-CPU+Cooling-_-Corsair-_-35181013


Computer case:
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

SSD:
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348

Hard Drive:
Western Digital VelociRaptor RFHWD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136563&cm_re=velociraptor_300gb-_-22-136-563-_-Product

Power Supply:
SILVERSTONE ST1000-P 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256057

Mouse:
Razer Mamba Wireless Laser Gaming Mouse
http://www.buy.com/prod/razer-mamba-wired-wireless-laser-gaming-mouse-laser-usb-7-x-button/q/sellerid/20676510/loc/101/210904552.html

Keyboard:
Razer Lycosa RZ03-00181400-R3U1 Mirror Gaming Keyboard

http://www.buy.com/prod/razer-lycosa-rz03-00181400-r3u1-mirror-gaming-keyboard-usb-black/q/loc/101/210516293.html

Blu ray drive:
LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature Model iHBS112 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106346

DVD Drive:
HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Writer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140042

Monitor:
UltraSharp U2410 61 cm (24") Widescreen Monitor
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=320-8277&baynote_bnrank=2&baynote_irrank=0&~ck=baynoteSearch

I have already purchased 2 sapphire Radeon 6970's

Now yes I do what to be able to have supreme gaming on this machine but don't know which way to go on the motherboard, and the i7 processor.
As for the memory I was going to go with

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145271&cm_re=dominator_1600-_-20-145-271-_-Product

Any help would be appreciated, I just can't wrap my head around which way to go. I was going to get a i7-970 but then I hear about the 2500 or 2600 sandy processors. Then I was considering an ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 but then I hear about these 1155 mobo's. Seriously I need some help.
 

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The Sandy Bridge are the latest and greatest. But, they had a motherboard recall due to chip set issues. And I've seen a number of folks on the board buying MB only to find they had old ones that needed to be swapped out.

If you want Sandy Bridge I'd wait a couple month to let the supply pipeline fill with new / good motherboards

Besides, they just fixed the existing chip set and a new one is coming out...Z68

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68-express-lucidlogix-virtu-ssd-caching,2888.html


The X58 is tried and true and won't give you any surprises, if you need a system Now it's probably a safer choice....
 
1) You might get more responses if you would identify the components in text, along with the links. People are lazy, and so am I

2) The monitor link does not work. Is it a 30" 2560 x 1600?

3) You just can't beat the sandy bridge processors for gaming. If you are willing to OC, the 2500K is the best. The 2600K is not much worth the $100 price premium, but if $100 is not that important to you, then go ahead. The 2500 at stock will compete with the i7-980X in some apps.

4) You will want a P67 based socket 1155 motherboard. Most will do. Get one with 6gb sata for your ssd. Asus and MSI have resumed shipments.
How about the Asus P8P67 EVO? I like the two separated pci-e sots for Xfire:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131704
Just check to see that there is a rev 3.0 sticker which will be plastered over everything.

5) Sandy bridge does not need fast ram. Get a 8gb kit of 2 x 4gb of 1600 ram, and you will be within 1-3% of the fps performance of the most expensive kit.
Only if you will do heavy multitasking or photoshop would you be able to use 16gb.

6) Liquid cooling is not necessary. A good air cooler will do as well, or better. The Noctua NH-D14 will cool better, be quieter, and is cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018
Prolimatech megahalems is also a great cooler.

7) The dual 6970's do not require a 1000w psu.
http://support.amd.com/us/certified/power-supplies/Pages/details.aspx?item=487

I suggest the gold certified Seasonic X850
It is at a similar price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102
8) The crucial C300 is a good unit. You might want to wait for a week or two for the expected launch of the C400. Price will be similar, with greatly improved performance.

9) Nothing wrong with the 300gb velociraptor. But it is expensive for what you get. The one you picked is a laptop drive which is more expensive than the desktop version which has more effective cooling. The 600gb drive is not much more expensive, performs better, and has more capacity.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136555
Actually, I think I would get a 256gb SSD, and pair it with a cheap 1tb drive for overflow, storage, and backup. Larger SSD's will usually perform even better.

10) Is there a reason why you want both a bluray AVD a dvd drive?

11) I suggest you download and read the motherboard and case manuals, cover to cover. Many questions will be answered.

-------------------good luck----------------
 

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Yea I also read about the new mobo's being worked on. As for the computer build itself I probably won't be able to actually put it together for 3 to 4 months just buying the parts as I come up with the cash. I just don't want to make any buyer regrets, that is why I want to make sure that the main components such as the mobo, processor and memory is all future proofed and that is the key I want something that 2 to 4 years down the road isn't going to drop in performance too much.
 

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Yea didn't mean to pick the laptop version of the velociraptor, and as for the 2 drives its not too expensive to grab a dvd drive and I just was grabbing one in case I wanted to do dvd to dvd or cd to cd copying I know it may sound rediculous but its not too expensive to throw in. Now I hear what you are saying about the mobo but I think I read somewhere that it has trouble doing crossfire just want to make sure that isn't the case with what you are saying is a good mobo to buy.
 
New tech is constantly emerging. Your PC won't slow down in the 2-4 year time frame. I expect if you are running a sandy at 4.0 you will not need another cpu for some time.
Next year, Intel is due to introduce "ivy bridge" which is a 22nm die shrink of sandy bridge. You probably won't need it, but it is supposed to be compatible with current P67 1155 motherboards.

No doubt amd and Nvidia will have new graphics cards out next year, but you would not need one, unless you were into triple monitor gaming, amd even then perhaps not.

In the SSD arena, we could very well see reductions in $/gb from the current $2.5 to $3 range, down to $1.5 and even lower for lower speed devices.

My take is, that if I should want to change later, I can sell of the current parts and replace them with the latest and greatest.