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October 20, 2010 9:32:51 AM

Hello just wanted to know if this would be a good setup to play Crysis on ultra settings with decent fps with my new Desktop i just bought.

Here are my Computer Specs...

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-860 quad-core processor [2.8GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache]
8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [4 DIMMs] from 6GB
1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 640GB
Corsair 650W
SAPPHIRE TOXIC 100282TXSR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX
ASUS VH222H-P 22" Class Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1080, 20,000:1 Dynamic, 16:9, 5ms, HDMI, DVI, VGA

Im thinking of buying Crysis but if im not gonna be able to enjoy because of lag and low settings then i just wont get it. Please can anyone let me know if they have any answers or advice? Thank you

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a c 169 U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 9:42:13 AM

You can play crysis maxed out at resolutions up to 1080p.For higher resolutions(like 2560x1600),you have to lower some settings.
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October 20, 2010 9:53:04 AM

Maziar said:
You can play crysis maxed out at resolutions up to 1080p.For higher resolutions(like 2560x1600),you have to lower some settings.


On ultra will it be playable. will it have any lag?
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October 20, 2010 9:53:39 AM

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I will rip through crysis.



"I will rip through crysis"?
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a b U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 9:56:53 AM

djphaze said:
"I will rip through crysis"?


He probably meant to say that the PC will rape through Crysis :D 

Yes, that PC can play Crysis with Ultra high mods up to 1920x1080 (even with 2x or 4xaa since you are going to play with the Ultra high mod)
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October 20, 2010 11:04:03 AM

Ultra settings...bwahahaha...you can run it on ultra + render 3 levels in advance settings...so to speak.
Crysis/warhead , Modern Warfare 2, Left4Dead 2...you wouldnt notice the difference if you were playing pacman with the same rig. Best buy ever...and dont think about the 4series nvidias...theyre just a lame comeback to the 58 series ATi's...and physics is bull. Eyefinity is a better investment. And if you crossfire the 5850's theyre faster than anythin except the dual 5870 (5890) in some instances and theyd probably whip the oneday 5series nivs and 68series Ati's...this is one hell of a card.

Got almost the same setup...
i7 860
Win7 32bit
4gb 1333
24inch @ 1920*1200
5850 1gb club3d

*You should see the FPS in World of Goo...OMG*
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a c 169 U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 11:19:56 AM

djphaze said:
On ultra will it be playable. will it have any lag?

Depends on your resolution.
What resolution do you play at ?
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a b U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 5:18:03 PM

Maziar said:
Depends on your resolution.
What resolution do you play at ?


His new monitor is 1080p, so there you go:D 
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a c 125 U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 6:58:18 PM

Everybody is wrong. It will play it on High at 1080p with 2xAA, not Very High.

I had a single 5850 overclocked.

With two 5850s overclocked, I can now run Crysis at Very High.



This is the benchmark, so while ~30fps average is ok, when you start gaming it will have serious drops. But at high settings, it runs fine.
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a b U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 7:13:15 PM

wolfram23 said:
Everybody is wrong. It will play it on High at 1080p with 2xAA, not Very High.

I had a single 5850 overclocked.

With two 5850s overclocked, I can now run Crysis at Very High.

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx103/Wolfram23/5850%20single%20vs%20CF/Crysis.jpg

This is the benchmark, so while ~30fps average is ok, when you start gaming it will have serious drops. But at high settings, it runs fine.


Sorry, but >30 fps is great in Crysis. I play it with my HD 4850 with Very High settings, DX10, @ 1280x1024 res. ~ 24 fps (26/27 in Warhead) in Crysis is more than enough for me.
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October 20, 2010 7:25:00 PM

Maziar said:
Depends on your resolution.
What resolution do you play at ?


Not sure hat resolution in gonna be playing at since i just got a new monitor(look above in specs). Possibly 1080p 1920x1080 if possible. What resolution would be best in my case?
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October 20, 2010 7:28:04 PM

unknown_13 said:
Sorry, but >30 fps is great in Crysis. I play it with my HD 4850 with Very High settings, DX10, @ 1280x1024 res. ~ 24 fps (26/27 in Warhead) in Crysis is more than enough for me.


what are your cpu specs?
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October 20, 2010 7:29:37 PM

wolfram23 said:
Everybody is wrong. It will play it on High at 1080p with 2xAA, not Very High.

I had a single 5850 overclocked.

With two 5850s overclocked, I can now run Crysis at Very High.

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx103/Wolfram23/5850%20single%20vs%20CF/Crysis.jpg

This is the benchmark, so while ~30fps average is ok, when you start gaming it will have serious drops. But at high settings, it runs fine.


Hmm. i see the benchmark but it isnt always right. im hoping i can get away with a lil more.
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a b U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 7:31:57 PM

djphaze said:
what are your cpu specs?


An Core 2 Quad Q8200 @ stock speeds (2.33GHz)
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a c 169 U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 9:01:16 PM

to wolf
I've played Crysis on FPS between 20-30 and i have to say it was playable, also disabling AA will definitely help.
to OP
You'll be fine on 1080p.
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a c 125 U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 9:12:38 PM

Disabling AA means it's not "ultra" settings which is what everyone's saying it can do. Very High with no AA might be acceptable. As I stated in my post, 30fps in the benchmark generally translates into less in actual game play, especially when there's a gun fight and explosions it'll be 20s. Some people don't mind that, so fine, but I found that for my tastes it was not acceptable and instead played at High (rather than Very High) which gave more like 50 fps. The game looks great at High, there's really not much reason to do Very High with no AA when it already looks great, plus 2xAA or even 4xAA at High IMO looks better than Very High 0xAA but that just comes down to personal taste.

I should also point out that I ran those tests at 850 core, 1200 memory overclocks (stock being 725/1000)
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a b U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 9:24:06 PM

wolfram23 said:
Disabling AA means it's not "ultra" settings which is what everyone's saying it can do. Very High with no AA might be acceptable. As I stated in my post, 30fps in the benchmark generally translates into less in actual game play, especially when there's a gun fight and explosions it'll be 20s. Some people don't mind that, so fine, but I found that for my tastes it was not acceptable and instead played at High (rather than Very High) which gave more like 50 fps. The game looks great at High, there's really not much reason to do Very High with no AA when it already looks great, plus 2xAA or even 4xAA at High IMO looks better than Very High 0xAA but that just comes down to personal taste.

I should also point out that I ran those tests at 850 core, 1200 memory overclocks (stock being 725/1000)


There is an Ultra High mod. Go to Crymod or google it.
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a c 125 U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 9:33:25 PM

Nice! I'll have to try that.
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a c 169 U Graphics card
October 20, 2010 9:49:57 PM

Yep,there are lots of decent mods such as CCC which improves the graphics and will give you more FPS than very high settings.
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October 21, 2010 1:09:41 AM

Sweet! well i have researched and it seems the Radeon HD 5850 is the best video card out there for $300. Only other card that comes close would be the GTX 470. If theres anyone that knows of a better card than 5850 for $300 price range please let me know. Also i can probably save up more money for a video card. Maybe even get the 480 gtx or the 5870. Would these cards make crysis a more pleasurable experience?
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a c 125 U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 3:22:29 AM

The GTX 470 is a tad better than the 5850, but it uses more power and makes more heat. The Fermi's tend to do a little better with AA and huge resolutions because of slightly more VRAM (and other little things). That said, I've found the 5850 to be a great card and definitely worth getting.

Instead of a 480 or 5870, you'd be better off with a pair of GTX 460 1gb in SLI for around the same price.

If you can wait a little while tho, very very soon AMD will release their Radeon 6xxx series. And I mean, it's a matter of days at this point. That might be a game changer there.
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a c 216 U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 4:23:57 AM

I agree with wolfram23, 30 FPS is not acceptable, less than 30 FPS is down right appauling. It certainly wouldn't be considered, ripping right through the game by any stretch.

For most people I know, if you have less than 40 fps, you get motion sickness.
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October 21, 2010 4:59:15 AM

wolfram23 said:
The GTX 470 is a tad better than the 5850, but it uses more power and makes more heat. The Fermi's tend to do a little better with AA and huge resolutions because of slightly more VRAM (and other little things). That said, I've found the 5850 to be a great card and definitely worth getting.

Instead of a 480 or 5870, you'd be better off with a pair of GTX 460 1gb in SLI for around the same price.

If you can wait a little while tho, very very soon AMD will release their Radeon 6xxx series. And I mean, it's a matter of days at this point. That might be a game changer there.


a pair of gtx 460? Why didnt i think of that? but i wouldnt know how to do that. im barely getting into hardware installations. Plus i only see one slot for a video card. Do you add another slot? sry that sounds like a noob?. Hmm 6000 series eh? Tempting!
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October 21, 2010 5:00:19 AM

bystander said:
I agree with wolfram23, 30 FPS is not acceptable, less than 30 FPS is down right appauling. It certainly wouldn't be considered, ripping right through the game by any stretch.

For most people I know, if you have less than 40 fps, you get motion sickness.


i see what you mean. i dont think i would be happy with that either. Thats why i cant make up my mind.
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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 5:00:27 AM

Ultra is the setting beyond Very High. It is unlock-able with graphical mods. It will result in a fps hit greater than Very High.
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a c 106 U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 5:04:53 AM

You will be able to run Crysis at Very High (or Enthusiest on Warhead and Crysis Wars) on 1080p without AA or AF just fine. If you want to use AA and AF you either need another 5850 or drop down some of the settings or the resolution (but going against the monitors native resolution defeats the whole point of trying to use AA and AF).

If you want to enable ultra high you have to use a mod as others have said, but that's a whole different ball of wax :D . Still, even at medium Crysis still looks pretty good despite it's age. Crysis is a fun game. What other game lets you pick a man up, toss him in the air, and shoot him on the way down, gives you a super suit, and lets you pick up enough armament to take on a small country? Buy it, and be happy.
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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 6:09:28 AM

It's funny how some say it will rip through the game and others say it won't. Well to be honest 30FPS is not acceptable just like a few here mentioned, if the OP can deal with 30FPS and massive drops that go well below 20FPS then I say go ahead, if not follow wolfram's suggestions. I for one cannot get more than 32FPS (very high/no AA) and that is with the GPU at 1000/1300 and The CPU at 3.8Ghz (anything over 3.8Ghz will not yield any gains).

IMO the best option right now is dual 460's or dual 5850's (both come out to be the same price give or take depending on the model). Total should be around 400.00$ for the 5850's and about 440.00$ for the 460's (if you live in the States).

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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 8:56:10 AM

OvrClkr said:
It's funny how some say it will rip through the game and others say it won't. Well to be honest 30FPS is not acceptable just like a few here mentioned, if the OP can deal with 30FPS and massive drops that go well below 20FPS then I say go ahead, if not follow wolfram's suggestions. I for one cannot get more than 32FPS (very high/no AA) and that is with the GPU at 1000/1300 and The CPU at 3.8Ghz (anything over 3.8Ghz will not yield any gains).

IMO the best option right now is dual 460's or dual 5850's (both come out to be the same price give or take depending on the model). Total should be around 400.00$ for the 5850's and about 440.00$ for the 460's (if you live in the States).


A single 5850 costs around 300$.
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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 9:07:20 AM

unknown_13 said:
A single 5850 costs around 300$.


Maybe in Japan but here in the States it can be purchased for under 200.00$ after rebate ;) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and there are other models like the Gigabyte/Asus DirectCU/Sapphire that go for around 250.00$...


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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 9:52:44 AM

OvrClkr said:
Maybe in Japan but here in the States it can be purchased for under 200.00$ after rebate ;) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and there are other models like the Gigabyte/Asus DirectCU/Sapphire that go for around 250.00$...



Yeah well i haven't searched on Newegg for the 5850 for a whille. And i don't live in Japan that's for sure. :D 
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a c 169 U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 10:37:59 AM

Bluescreendeath said:
Ultra is the setting beyond Very High. It is unlock-able with graphical mods. It will result in a fps hit greater than Very High.

Actually, almost all graphical mods(the good ones) will unlock higher graphics and a better FPS(compared to vanilla very high)
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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 5:29:48 PM

Maziar said:
Actually, almost all graphical mods(the good ones) will unlock higher graphics and a better FPS(compared to vanilla very high)


True.
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October 21, 2010 10:10:41 PM

you can pre-order the 6000 series
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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2010 11:31:15 PM

where? Amazon no longer has it listed, the egg should have a few posted after midnight hopefully..
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October 22, 2010 1:59:46 AM

OvrClkr said:
where? Amazon no longer has it listed, the egg should have a few posted after midnight hopefully..


i got an email from amazon. saying they have em on presale but i dont see where you can preorder
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a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2010 4:35:48 AM

I don't think they will amaze anyone in Crysis, we will leave that to the 6950/6970/6990.
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October 22, 2010 4:40:25 AM

OvrClkr said:
I don't think they will amaze anyone in Crysis, we will leave that to the 6950/6970/6990.


Yup. cant wait till they release!
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a c 125 U Graphics card
October 22, 2010 2:41:30 PM

6870 for that price, must be true that it's actually the 5770 replacement and the 69xx will be the top tier (58xx replacement)
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a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2010 5:14:01 PM

Hey Wolf ^^, have you seen any info on the OC'ing capabilities of the 6870? I can't find anything other than mild OC's.
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a c 125 U Graphics card
October 22, 2010 5:51:25 PM

Not really, no. Tom's article today says it's not much of an OCer tho.
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October 23, 2010 10:39:56 AM

how would the HD 5870 run crysis ith my specs?
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a c 169 U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 12:04:25 PM

5870 performs about 10-20% better than 5850,so it can handle Crysis fine.
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a c 216 U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 4:41:03 PM

djphaze said:
how would the HD 5870 run crysis ith my specs?


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-scali...

With very high settings and no AA and no AF, Crysis averages about 40 FPS by this benchmark, with a min of 24.

I personally like a little more, but it's playable FPS. With AA and AF turned on, it's not, but at high settings it's good with AA on which is the better compromise.
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October 23, 2010 7:43:03 PM

Is the 5870 the best single video card right now to run cryisis?
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a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 7:55:47 PM

The GTX480 or 5970 (2 GPUs on one card) are faster I believe.
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a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 10:44:35 PM

The best single GPU card is the GTX480, the HD 5970 is the fastest card and uses two GPU's. (2x 5870 with lower clocks)
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October 23, 2010 11:09:08 PM

i see. well i would like some advice. since i have only one pci slot on my comp i would like to get the best video card for my system. Im leaning towards the gtx 480. Now with the amd 6970 coming out soon, should i wait for it? Will it be better than the Gtx 480? Also when will the 6970 come out. thanks!
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a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 11:32:14 PM

6970 should be mid November I think. As for speed, can't really say at this point, but if it isn't faster than a 480 then AMD really messed up.
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