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Processing NEF (RAW) files from a Nikon camera

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Anonymous
January 21, 2005 4:04:03 PM

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The new version of Photoshop has a built-in browser that is very
convenient for processing RAW files leading directly to the editing
process. However, it seems to not work with the version of RAW that is
produced by a Nikon camera (D100). Nikon calls the format NEF and says
it is their name for a RAW format. But the Photoshop browser does not
recognize it as a raw file, and does not give you access to the RAW
editor.

The Nikon browser (Capture 4) does recognize the NEF format as a
variety of RAW and gives you an editing screen that begins to
approximate the Camera RAW one in Photoshop. But it is not as
convenient and may not be as complete as the Photoshop editor. NEF is
apparently not RAW in the way that Photoshop thinks of RAW.

My conclusion is that a NEF file must be processed in Capture 4 to get
anywhere near the flexibility available in Photoshop for real RAW
files. Is this correct? Have I missed something?
Thanks,
Mark Schupack
Anonymous
January 21, 2005 7:33:08 PM

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<Mark2149@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1106341443.888781.82700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> The new version of Photoshop has a built-in browser that is very
> convenient for processing RAW files leading directly to the editing
> process. However, it seems to not work with the version of RAW that is
> produced by a Nikon camera (D100). Nikon calls the format NEF and says
> it is their name for a RAW format. But the Photoshop browser does not
> recognize it as a raw file, and does not give you access to the RAW
> editor.
>
> The Nikon browser (Capture 4) does recognize the NEF format as a
> variety of RAW and gives you an editing screen that begins to
> approximate the Camera RAW one in Photoshop. But it is not as
> convenient and may not be as complete as the Photoshop editor. NEF is
> apparently not RAW in the way that Photoshop thinks of RAW.
>
> My conclusion is that a NEF file must be processed in Capture 4 to get
> anywhere near the flexibility available in Photoshop for real RAW
> files. Is this correct? Have I missed something?
> Thanks,
> Mark Schupack
>

Sure it does. You can either update your RAW converter from the Adobe site,
or install Nikon View AFTER installing Photoshop.

Tom
Anonymous
January 21, 2005 8:36:05 PM

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I have installed version 2.3 updater for camera raw, and still get the
same results: when trying to edit a NEF file in Pnotoshop I only get a
2-command dialog box and not the camera raw dialog box I am supposed to
get. I hate to think of editing everything in Nikon Capture 4.
Thaanks for the help.
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Anonymous
January 22, 2005 12:26:34 AM

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Mark2149@cox.net wrote:
> I have installed version 2.3 updater for camera raw, and still get the
> same results: when trying to edit a NEF file in Pnotoshop I only get a
> 2-command dialog box and not the camera raw dialog box I am supposed to
> get. I hate to think of editing everything in Nikon Capture 4.
> Thaanks for the help.
>
I'm sorry I don't remember the details, but this was discussed at length
in either this group or one of the Photoshop groups within the past few
weeks, and there is a solution. It has to do with some file Capture
places into the Photoshop plug-ins directory, or something. When it's
removed, everytning goes back to normal in Photoshop.

I suggest you search the groups for this thread. I know you don't have
to resort to editing everything in Capture. Sorry I can't be more specific.

Hope you find it with little hassle.

Mike
Anonymous
January 22, 2005 12:27:01 AM

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On 21 Jan 2005 13:04:03 -0800, "Mark2149@cox.net" <Mark2149@cox.net>
wrote:

>The new version of Photoshop has a built-in browser that is very
>convenient for processing RAW files leading directly to the editing
>process. However, it seems to not work with the version of RAW that is
>produced by a Nikon camera (D100). Nikon calls the format NEF and says
>it is their name for a RAW format. But the Photoshop browser does not
>recognize it as a raw file, and does not give you access to the RAW
>editor.

Revisit Adobe's site and download the latest version of the RAW
importer. My Phtoshop CS browser works fine (just a bit slow). And I'm
using a D70 which uses an even newer NEF format than the D100.

When you get it working, here's a hint. If you do shoot RAW + Basic (I
guess the D100 has that feature), separate the JPGs into a
sub-directory before using photoshop's browser to flag the NEF's you
want to work with. This makes the thumbnailing operation much faster.
Then switch the browser to 'view flagged images only' and you are set
to go.

>The Nikon browser (Capture 4) does recognize the NEF format as a
>variety of RAW and gives you an editing screen that begins to
>approximate the Camera RAW one in Photoshop. But it is not as
>convenient and may not be as complete as the Photoshop editor. NEF is
>apparently not RAW in the way that Photoshop thinks of RAW.

I agree, working entirely within Photoshop is much more convenient.

>My conclusion is that a NEF file must be processed in Capture 4 to get
>anywhere near the flexibility available in Photoshop for real RAW
>files.

>Is this correct?

No.

>Have I missed something?

Yes, the latest RAW importer.

--
Owamanga!
Anonymous
January 22, 2005 12:45:23 AM

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Mike G. wrote:
> Mark2149@cox.net wrote:
>
>> I have installed version 2.3 updater for camera raw, and still get the
>> same results: when trying to edit a NEF file in Pnotoshop I only get a
>> 2-command dialog box and not the camera raw dialog box I am supposed to
>> get. I hate to think of editing everything in Nikon Capture 4.
>> Thaanks for the help.
>>
> I'm sorry I don't remember the details, but this was discussed at length
> in either this group or one of the Photoshop groups within the past few
> weeks, and there is a solution. It has to do with some file Capture
> places into the Photoshop plug-ins directory, or something. When it's
> removed, everytning goes back to normal in Photoshop.
>
> I suggest you search the groups for this thread. I know you don't have
> to resort to editing everything in Capture. Sorry I can't be more
> specific.
>
> Hope you find it with little hassle.
>
> Mike

OK, I just found it. It's in alt.graphics.photoshop: RAW problems in
PS CS after Nikon Capture installed, posted 12/28/04, by Hunt. Many
replies and a good discussion.


Mike
Anonymous
January 22, 2005 1:11:53 AM

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"Mark2149@cox.net" <Mark2149@cox.net> wrote in news:1106341443.888781.82700
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> But the Photoshop browser does not
> recognize it as a raw file, and does not give you access to the RAW
> editor.

....when the Nikon plugin is installed. Yank it.
Anonymous
January 22, 2005 12:42:40 PM

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> When you get it working, here's a hint. If you do shoot RAW + Basic (I
> guess the D100 has that feature),

FWIW: No.

-Michael
Anonymous
January 22, 2005 8:24:31 PM

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Hooray! This solves the problem. Thanks to all those who responed.
Nikon is sneaky, in addition to charging high prices.

Mark Schupack
Anonymous
January 23, 2005 1:32:54 AM

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<Mark2149@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hooray! This solves the problem. Thanks to all those who responed.
> Nikon is sneaky, in addition to charging high prices.
>
> Mark Schupack
>

Since you didn't quote, we're a bit in the dark. What is the solution?
January 23, 2005 1:32:55 AM

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Tom Scales wrote:

> <Mark2149@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:1106443471.235253.113390@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Hooray! This solves the problem. Thanks to all those who responed.
>>Nikon is sneaky, in addition to charging high prices.
>>
>>Mark Schupack
>>
>
>
> Since you didn't quote, we're a bit in the dark. What is the solution?


See paste below from the previous posts (the answer is in another group).




Mike G. wrote:

> Mike G. wrote:
>
>> Mark2149@cox.net wrote:
>>
>>> I have installed version 2.3 updater for camera raw, and still get the
>>> same results: when trying to edit a NEF file in Pnotoshop I only get a
>>> 2-command dialog box and not the camera raw dialog box I am supposed to
>>> get. I hate to think of editing everything in Nikon Capture 4.
>>> Thaanks for the help.
>
>
> OK, I just found it. It's in alt.graphics.photoshop: RAW problems in
> PS CS after Nikon Capture installed, posted 12/28/04, by Hunt. Many
> replies and a good discussion.
>
>
> Mike
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