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December 17, 2010 5:37:10 PM

I'm building a budget gaming PC $550 not including monitor. Need to find a 21 - 24" budget gaming monitor. Will be using Yep ZOTAC 1GB/256 GTX 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... card. This is a gaming computer for kids. They aren't heavy games. WoW, WoW Catalcylsm, etc.
Welcome your suggestions.

Thanks

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December 17, 2010 5:52:55 PM

Do you already have the GPU, or do I have to include that in the price? What about an OS? You really should take a look at the guidelines, as we can't offer the best advice without knowing more.

Here's the best I can do, assuming you don't need the GPU in the price, but you do need the OS:

CPU: X3 450 $79
Mobo: ASRock 770 Extreme3 $75
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $70
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $70 (currently sold out, but this is the typical price)
PSU: Corsair 650W $60 with promo code and rebate
Case/OS: Rosewill Challenger and Windows 7 Home OEM $145
Optical: Cheapest SATA DVD burner $17

Total: $520

Monitor: Acer 23" 1920x1080 $150

Now, if you don't have the 460, I'd recommend getting the HD 5770 instead. You're limited to an AMD CPU with your budget, and AMD doesn't play nice with nVidia (at least not in dual card solutions). I'd then switch the board for the ASRock 870 Extreme3 ($95), allowing you to drop a second GPU in Crossfire.
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December 17, 2010 6:22:58 PM

Your links don't work.

First, Biostar is pretty horrible quality. I'd definitely go with something from ASRock as a budget option. Their boards are still high quality and loaded with features. Generally, the best quality boards are from Asus and Gigabyte, followed by ASRock, MSI and EVGA (in that order). Any other brands shouldn't be considered.

Second, that RAM is going to be slow. And I can't vouch for it's quality, as I've never heard of WINTEC, which isn't a good sign. I'm not sure how much I trust $40 sticks of RAM, but I know it's not much.

Third, the Seagate 7200.12 is alright, but it's slower and less reliable than the Samsung Spinpoint series. I'd try as hard as possible to find a Spinpoint F3. Or you could go with the Spinpoint F4 320 GB, as it's even faster than the F3s.

Fourth, Rosewill's cases are good, but I'm not sold on their PSUs. They've gotten ok reviews, but I'd rather have something from the major brands (Corsair, SeaSonic, Silverstone, XFX and Antec) to ensure the highest quality, especially when the prices aren't that different.

Finally, the X4 955 is a great CPU. However, adding it in really stresses the budget, forcing you to choose low quality and lower performing parts. The CPU doesn't really impact gaming to a huge degree, so it's better to minimize it's cost as much as possible. In addition, the X3 CPUs are great for overclocking and can potentially unlock into a quad core, making them very good for their price.
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December 17, 2010 7:51:28 PM

Links are fixed. Check them out.

I've kicked around the X3 CPU. While it has 3 cores (possible unlock to 4) it doesn't have L3 cache. I've heard that WoW Cataclysm uses L3 cache. The fact that all 4 cores are guaranteed to work and L3 cache was leading me X4 955. X3 is something to consider. Does the Asrock support core unlocking and OC? I have also looked at these too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't see running dual video cards at this time. Do you have any links to recommended GPU(s)?

Appreciate your input.
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December 17, 2010 8:00:49 PM

Nothing really uses L3 that much. Especially not WoW. Remember, the CPU with L3 cache are the most powerful ones on the market. If Cataclysm needed the L3 cache, they'd effectively eliminate 95% of their users from the upgrade. It's just bad business.

ASRock will support OCing and unlocking.

Don't touch either of those. The Biostar is crap and the ASRock is an older (i.e. obsolete) model. You'll want a board with USB 3/SATA III support going forward, and the ASRock 770 Extreme3 is the best budget choice with those features.

The brand doesn't really matter much on the GPU. Just search Newegg with the name and pick one. I generally don't get the cheapest (unless it's a known brand like XFX, Sapphire, Asus).

I don't really recommend dual card setups to start a build with, but it's a great feature to have in the future. You'd be able to nearly double your gaming performance with a very minimal added cost. I'd especially consider it if you think your kids will likely want to get into more advanced games, like any First Person Shooter.
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December 17, 2010 8:25:37 PM

The HD 5770 have 128 GB DDR5. The GPUs I were looking at had 256GB DDR5. Is that a major consideration?
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December 17, 2010 8:35:03 PM

Not that much. It is a factor in why the 460 is more powerful (thus, more expensive) than the 5770. Neither card can handle some of the more typical games (basically, games that aren't WoW or meant for mainstream users) at 1080p with high details. In addition, the 460 wouldn't be able to be used in a dual card setup with an AMD board. That's why I typically recommend going with the 5770 in a low-budget AMD build.

Another option is the HD 5850, but it's a touch more expensive than the 460. That will certainly handle the majority of games at 1080p with high details, and it'd also have the upgrade potential of the 5770.

The 5770 costs about $120, the 460 is around $150, and the 5850 is around $170. If all your looking to do is play WoW, any of them would be fine. I'd lean towards the largest one that fits your budget.
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December 18, 2010 12:18:52 AM

I've worked a couple of variations. Which is a better option?

Option 1:
Optical: Cheapest SATA DVD burner $17
Case/OS: Rosewill Challenger and Windows 7 Home OEM $145
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $54.99
PSU: Corsair 650W $60 with promo code and rebate
CPU/Video: X3 450 and HD5770 $211.99
Mobo: ASRock 870 Extreme3 $89.99
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $70

Total AR = $548.94.

Can do slight variations on the Mob/Video combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... also for 211.99 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... for 201.99. Which of the 3 video variations is best option 1?

Option 2:
Optical: Cheapest SATA DVD burner $17
Case/OS: Rosewill Challenger and Windows 7 Home OEM $145
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $54.99
PSU: Corsair 650W $60 with promo code and rebate
CPU: X3 450 $79
Mobo/Video : ASRock 870 Extreme3& HD5770 $234.98
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $70

Total AR = $560.94




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December 18, 2010 1:53:20 PM

I'd get whichever is cheapest. There's not much difference between brands for the GPU.
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December 18, 2010 2:58:43 PM

I don't see a link for the $119 one, but the other two would be just fine.
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December 18, 2010 3:38:21 PM

I'm going to rule out the last one from Amazon. It's the smallest, yet the most expensive. I don't see anything in the other three that would make it a bad deal. I know that Asus's monitors are generally excellent, as are Dell's. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.
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December 18, 2010 8:18:04 PM

Debating 5770, 5850, or perhaps the 6850. Assuming running only 1 card for a while, with CF somewhere down the road which card to choose?
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December 19, 2010 11:16:29 PM

I prefer the 5850 out of that group. It's the most powerful, and isn't too expensive. I'm not a huge fan of the 6xxx cards simply because they're a touch underpowered for their price.
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December 26, 2010 12:02:22 PM

Mad -- thanks for all the advice. Appreciated all your suggestions. Boys really like the new computer. I ended up purchasing only one computer -- Stretched my budget a bit. We will be purchasing second computer in a 3 or 4 weeks. Hopefully I can have you validate config then too. Thanks again.
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