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October 21, 2010 8:46:22 AM

Since the latest WOW pre cataclysm patch I've had to lower my in game video settings to their lowest settings to keep things working. It's hardly sustainable. The card I'm looking at the Radeon 5770 HD (Sapphire) but I'm not sure the difference on Sapphire, XFX etc etc. Also, what kind of power supply is reccommended that will fit and work in my system as I've never actually upgraded a power supply? I did some prelim info gathering and found I only have a PCI-E x15 v1.0 slot, and the specs list this as a Gen 2.0 card. Would it be backward compatible?

Below are direct links to my specs via CPU-Z and Belarc as well as some snapshots of the MB and Power Supply. If you need any other specs let me know.

Dell Dimension E521 Service Tag 6ct6kc1

http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/cpuz.html
http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/belarc.html


http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/power.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/mobo1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/mobo2.jpg

Card I'm considering: Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1 GB Model 100283-3L

Power supply I'm considering: Corsair Model CMPSU-450VX

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.


a c 1369 U Graphics card
a c 697 ) Power supply
a b Ý World of Warcraft
October 21, 2010 5:00:09 PM

Both good choices. The card is backwards compatible and Sapphire and XFX are both good brand names and have comparable products.
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October 21, 2010 5:40:37 PM

I have a 5770 from xfx with a amd 5600+ and 6gb of ddr2. i can run wow on high-ultra setting at 1440-900 and my fps doesn't dip below 30.
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October 21, 2010 6:13:31 PM

The 5770 requires a 6 pin connector right? so you would need to get a new PSU. I know in the past dell made it very difficult to upgrade a PSU if it was a dell brand one, I dont know if they have changed their pratices. But the card will be backwards compatiable, just make sure that its PCI-Express 2.0 not 2.1 some users are having issues with 2.1 cards in 1.0 slots.
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October 21, 2010 6:23:09 PM

Snipergod87 said:
The 5770 requires a 6 pin connector right? so you would need to get a new PSU. I know in the past dell made it very difficult to upgrade a PSU if it was a dell brand one, I dont know if they have changed their pratices. But the card will be backwards compatiable, just make sure that its PCI-Express 2.0 not 2.1 some users are having issues with 2.1 cards in 1.0 slots.

The card the OP listed is PCIe 2.0 and OP listed a new PSU. Reading before posting sometimes helps.
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a c 164 ) Power supply
a b Ý World of Warcraft
October 21, 2010 6:28:30 PM

rolli59 said:
The card the OP listed is PCIe 2.0 and OP listed a new PSU. Reading before posting sometimes helps.


read??? i just want to post my opinion as fact! :na: 
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a c 235 U Graphics card
a c 164 ) Power supply
a b Ý World of Warcraft
October 21, 2010 6:32:33 PM

rplieth said:
Since the latest WOW pre cataclysm patch I've had to lower my in game video settings to their lowest settings to keep things working. It's hardly sustainable. The card I'm looking at the Radeon 5770 HD (Sapphire) but I'm not sure the difference on Sapphire, XFX etc etc. Also, what kind of power supply is reccommended that will fit and work in my system as I've never actually upgraded a power supply? I did some prelim info gathering and found I only have a PCI-E x15 v1.0 slot, and the specs list this as a Gen 2.0 card. Would it be backward compatible?

Below are direct links to my specs via CPU-Z and Belarc as well as some snapshots of the MB and Power Supply. If you need any other specs let me know.

Dell Dimension E521 Service Tag 6ct6kc1

http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/cpuz.html
http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/belarc.html


http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/power.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/mobo1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~rplieth/mobo2.jpg

Card I'm considering: Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1 GB Model 100283-3L

Power supply I'm considering: Corsair Model CMPSU-450VX

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.


good job on parts but one major issue, the E521 uses a BTX mobo (i owned one) so the card goes in fan side up rather then down. your PCI-E x16 slot does not have a free slot above it. so that means one of two things

1. get some metal cutters and mod your case

2. get a single slot 2.0 card like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

very good PSU and will fit with no issue
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October 21, 2010 9:37:20 PM

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good job on parts but one major issue, the E521 uses a BTX mobo (i owned one) so the card goes in fan side up rather then down. your PCI-E x16 slot does not have a free slot above it. so that means one of two things

1. get some metal cutters and mod your case

2. get a single slot 2.0 card like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814129150


@ ct1615

I'm not sure I'm understanding where or why I'm going to need an additional PCI-E slot... or what you're stating the physical contraints would be. My mobo model is an OCT103
http://www.freelandcomputer.com/images/P/CT103.jpg

The actual card I went with is the XFX 5770 and it has only one PCI-E connection:
http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/graphiccards/hd%2050...

Can you dumb this down? :-)

Thanks,

Ryan
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a c 697 ) Power supply
a b Ý World of Warcraft
October 21, 2010 9:59:06 PM

He was just worried about the card not fitting because of the heatsink in the middle of the board, being a dual slot card it will overhang the slot that way.
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October 21, 2010 10:08:13 PM

ok look at your BTX motherboard linked above

now look at an ATX mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

see how the ports on the BTX mobo are on the right, so its placed on the left side panel if you are standing in front of the case

the ATX mobo is opposite, the ports are on the left, its placed on the right side panel

now look at the ATI xfx 5770 you linked. the fans side (pictured as the top) goes in fan side down on an ATX board since the card can only be installed one way. on a BTX board you must flip the the card over and it goes in fan side up. since the fan takes up a second slot, you need to have a free slot above your PCI-E x16 slot in a BTX board (or below in an ATX).

here is a perfect example of the DELL e520
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTbx4dusBMAhQAIJ2jzbkF/SIG=...**http%3a//www.lewisroberts.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/2205200...

see how the mobo is on the left side panel, the video card is fan side up on the top slot. that is a single slot card, if he tried to install a dual slot he would not have the room without modding his case.

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October 21, 2010 11:44:05 PM

I totally understand now, I was going down the path that it would hit some other component in the case... not the fact that the PCI-E is at the top peripheral slot and wouldn't allow for the dual slot card facing upwards. I found a pic of someone who has modded it, so I'll just seek out my tin snips and make it happen :) 
http://img510.imageshack.us/i/bv2hp7.jpg/ Thank you all very much for your assistance!
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
October 21, 2010 11:52:24 PM

rplieth said:
I totally understand now, I was going down the path that it would hit some other component in the case... not the fact that the PCI-E is at the top peripheral slot and wouldn't allow for the dual slot card facing upwards. I found a pic of someone who has modded it, so I'll just seek out my tin snips and make it happen :) 
http://img510.imageshack.us/i/bv2hp7.jpg/ Thank you all very much for your assistance!

Always nice to see that people can get creative to fix their problems, enjoy!
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October 21, 2010 11:54:57 PM

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October 22, 2010 12:39:03 AM

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