GTX 580 Speed?

[ares1214]

http://vr-zone.com/articles/rumour-nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-to-be-20-faster-than-gtx-480/10116.html

It appears going around now that the 580 is 20% faster than the 480. Not a bad improvement, hopefully heat and power will go down, but even Nvidia said it would need a little more power. But still, not bad. The 6970 is suppose to be right around or above 20% faster than the 480. However, with prices for the 6970 rumoured to be $440, can the 580 compete on a price/perf, as well as overall efficiency standpoint? We shall see. Although good to see Nvidia isnt just rolling over until Kepler.

 

[Rustyy117]

If the HD6970 is 20% faster than the GTX480 then it would put it right next to the HD5970 for $440 isn't bad at all. Be interesting to see what the 6990/6870x2 can do.
If the GTX580 is the same performance as the HD6970 and is the same price then nVidia's features could give it the edge.

 

[ares1214]

They are losing some of those features from being exclusive though. However, if the 480 already a decent bit above $440, and thats one of the cards they can least afford to drop price probably, then id imagine it will be more expensive, but just a guess. Everything about it seems to be using more expensive parts, like 512-bit bus.

 

[Rustyy117]

Well they wouldn't be making much or any money if they drop the prices too much, having said that they (nVidia) have dropped the prices of the GTX470 alot recently, to the point where you can get a GTX470 for less than a HD5850 (In the UK atleast). I can't see them making any money on it, but I'm not complaining as its all good for the customers.

I'm just waiting it out and looking for a good deal, I'm sure they'll be plenty around X-mas.

 

[reccy]

Well they wouldn't be making much or any money if they drop the prices too much, having said that they (nVidia) have dropped the prices of the GTX470 alot recently, to the point where you can get a GTX470 for less than a HD5850 (In the UK atleast). I can't see them making any money on it, but I'm not complaining as its all good for the customers.

I'm just waiting it out and looking for a good deal, I'm sure they'll be plenty around X-mas.

Refering to the GTX 470's, i paid £230 each for the ASUS V2.0 reference card - alomost half of what the GTX480 would of cost me. (or about the same x2 as i have 2)

The 580 i would put it as in the £450+ bracket tbf, even if its 20% better/faster than the 480, it will still be at round the 480's prices, more likely a tad higher.

 

[Rustyy117]

Refering to the GTX 470's, i paid £230 each for the ASUS V2.0 reference card - alomost half of what the GTX480 would of cost me. (or about the same x2 as i have 2)

The 580 i would put it as in the £450+ bracket tbf, even if its 20% better/faster than the 480, it will still be at round the 480's prices, more likely a tad higher.

Yeah £230 was the norm recently, now where seeing £210 - £199 more the norm, You tempted by some Tri-SLI action?

I'd say £430 would be the price for a GTX580, just undercutting the HD5970

The GTX480's aren't too bad now £339

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-134-OK&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1750

I'm suprised in a good way that nvidia are lowering prices, hope AMD fights back and lowers there prices too, I'm looking for a cheap reference design HD5850.

 

[reccy]

3 way sli is VERY tempting, have looked into it, but i'd have to get a new PSU aswell.

Looking at £350 for not a huge amount of a performance boosts over 2 SLI.

Tempting thou i must admit, looking at one now actually...

 

[Rustyy117]

3 way sli is VERY tempting, have looked into it, but i'd have to get a new PSU aswell.

Looking at £350 for not a huge amount of a performance boosts over 2 SLI.

Tempting thou i must admit, looking at one now actually...

Yeah one of those things that you don't really need, but is still relly tempting.

You'd need some powerhouse of a PSU for 3 way GTX470 SLI, perhaps a 850W quality PSU or above.

 

[reccy]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-012-CS&tool=5

The above for the PSU.. but its £200 plus £200 for the GPU, so £400 for the extra 10-20 frames is not a price i'd pay.. (yet anyways)

That would mean ive spent £1800 on my system with the above.. wow!

 

[TheViper]

The cheapest GTX 480 I'm finding is $450 before rebates. If the HD 6970 comes out at $440 with a 20% increase in performance, the GTX 480 will require harmful price cuts to compete. And the GTX 580 will have to cost more than the HD 6970 to be profitable or cost equal and break even or lose money.

 

[ares1214]

The cheapest GTX 480 I'm finding is $450 before rebates. If the HD 6970 comes out at $440 with a 20% increase in performance, the GTX 480 will require harmful price cuts to compete. And the GTX 580 will have to cost more than the HD 6970 to be profitable or cost equal and break even or lose money.

Thats what im getting at. And most 480's are already around $500, or atleast ones with semi-decent coolers. But more info out:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/10/21/nvidia.geforce.gtx.580.nears.for.late.november/

It appears GF112 is that unlocked GF104 we are all looking forward too. Unfortunately it appears these wont come until february at the earliest, and Kepler seems to be at the end of 2011. If it doesnt beat 7xxx, bad times ahead for Nvidia.

 

[17seconds]

I suppose most of you have heard about Nvidia accidentally announcing the GTX580 on one of their pages (since removed). Isn't that how it usually works, with an "accidental" listing?
http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/10/21/nvidia_accidentally_confirms_gtx_580

 

[Rustyy117]

Lol, you cant accidentally do something like that, It obviously involves editing a website which doesn't just happen... Its NVidia trying to make people wait for their new products instead of splashing the cash on AMD's new 6xxx series.

 

[Anik8]

I knew Nvidia will do away by expanding their fermis to counter 6xxx series.
For its impossible for nvidia to stay in the lead with wait for kepler and neither will the difference between 6xxx and 5xxx be so big.
In previous kepler vs 6xxx threads I commented lyk this only.

Price is not a factor as day after day newer cards take birth and price tags are lowered

 

[Anik8]

Huang said that he's hopeful it'll be on the market by this summer. But what about a price? A separate NVIDIA source who will remain anonymous for obvious reasons let us in on a little secret - the GTX 580 will launch with the GTX 480's current price. The best part of that tidbit may be the obvious implication - a price drop on the 400 series! So if you're in the market for a new video card, it may be wise to wait until the summer...if you can hold off that long.

^ from overclockersclub
But then again it will be wrong to speculate now coz theres a lot of raw words in the air.Some sites sayin it will hav 580 CUDA cores while some saying it will have 768 CUDA cores,again some saying it will give 20% performance benefit while some saying it will give 5-50%.
So I guess we cannot rely on any informations about real specifications as of now.Lets just wait and see what happens.