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Mid Budget Build - Opinions Wanted!

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December 19, 2010 7:30:24 PM

Hi, I am completely new to computer building and I was wondering if these parts would work well (or are even compatible) with each other. Also, I would definitely appreciate opinions concerning the performance vs price point of this build. Thanks!

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU Cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
December 19, 2010 7:45:06 PM

Hello,

Everything is compatible...but I wouldn't buy an AMD motherboard/CPU and put an Nvidia Graphics Card in it. I'd go all the way AMD !
Also, your power supply seems a little bit low end. I'd go with a 80+silver or gold. And I personally prefer Corsair.

Good luck !
December 19, 2010 8:03:05 PM

So, lets get started

Don't worry about the PSU, the one you picked is good is well (antec is a trusted brand is well) and it's cheap.

CPU is good but don't get the 965, get the 955 it's totally same but clocked a bit lower.

As you picked a CPU cooler, you can overclock it to match the 965 or a bit more.

Also i don't think you looking forward for 4 way crossfire. But as the MOBO is cheap, i don't see why not get it.

The GPU is ok, but if you can afford the 6850 you should deffinitly get it.

The case is spot on.

For HDD get the samsunf f3 1Tb (It's highly recommended).

For RAM you should get this one:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has a bit faster timing and is better branded then the one you picked.

Hope this helps !!

Dave
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December 19, 2010 11:46:33 PM

Wow, thanks to both of you for the help, I'll definitely look into the Ripjaws RAM and the 6850.

Also, I was concerned that the MOBO is a little high end for what I am looking for. Are there any other cheaper options that you might recommend?

Finally, here comes the embarrassing part. I know that building the computer from scratch isn't too hard, and the wealth of the knowledge here would definitely get me through but I'm still a little nervous about screwing things up. Is there anywhere or anyone that would build this computer if I were to supply all the necessary parts?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 20, 2010 1:30:33 AM

You defiantly do not need a silver or gold 80+ PSU. I'd say an 80+ Bronze or even just standard 80+ is good enough.

A mobo+CPU combo to look into is this. You'll get the SATA 6 (that's not really important right now) and USB 3 (supposed mainstream next year) support.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

As for your card do you plan to crossfire/SLI or just leave it a single card? Also are you looking into overclocking your card?

Your heatsink is good, but the price is gawd awful. Go to amazon for that, free shipping and cheaper by 5$. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias...

As for your HDD, the F3 suggested above is great. Reason being. Caviar's arent bad. But even the black vers. are slower than the F3 by a bit. The F3 is cheaper for more space. Plus offers 500gb platter sizes, while the Caviar's Black only offer a 320gb platter size. The new SATA 6 WD Black's fixed that, but still not worth the extra money. Go with the F3.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Out of stock so... Here is Amazons.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...
December 20, 2010 2:24:06 AM

Thanks again for the help. To answer your questions, I am planning on running just a single card for now, and I also plan on overclocking it. After looking at everyone's suggestions I've tweaked the build to this:

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU and MOBO - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CPU cooler - http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Univ...

Hard Drive - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...

RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204

I also have a quick question about the RAM. I noticed that the 1600 version of the RAM I selected is only 5 dollars more; however, it also shows that the cas latency for the 1600 is set at 9, while the 1333 is at 8. Which one is better?
December 20, 2010 3:06:46 AM

The lower the latency, the better. However, higher latency usually allows for better overclocking ability, thus the one with a CAS of 9 running at 1600MHz, and the one with a CAS of 8 running at 1333MHZ.
That doesn't mean you won't be able to run the 1333 at 1600 though. But in order to do so, you might have to change the CAS timmings from 8 to 9...but you might not have too either. You might be lucky !
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 20, 2010 3:12:57 AM

^ Not always true. High latency also means slower ram, but not even that matters. 1333 vs 1600 there is no huge difference. The only thing you see any change in is during memory benchmarks. But who cares about those.

Ok with that said. The 6850 isn't your best bet. Should you just stay with one card, the GTX 460 is a better buy. It OC's very well and performs great once OC'd better than an OC'd 6850. The reason I say if you choose to single card it out. IS because SLI w/ AMD platform (IE AMD chipset) sucks. If you SLI you'll regret. If you plan to dual card in the future with this system. The 6850 is the better bet. I actually recommend chipping in a little more for this 6850 model.

6850 ASUS DirectCU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It OC's like a beast and runs Very cool, plus it can voltage tweak.

Review: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/Radeon_HD_6850_...

Now if you plan on not CF in the future go with the GTX 460, and this card. The MSI HAWK 460. After the MIR it's 195$ before it, it's 215$.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

However, really check this review out, never exceeds 70*C once OC'd and look at the OC performance. Just a beauty.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/31....

Or you could go with a cheaper 460, and this at 140$ plus an MIR. OC's really good to (as all DirectCu's do) and is really quiet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Review: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_460...

Basically the same card, only at 1gb.
December 20, 2010 8:31:18 PM

I think I'm ready to finalize the build, but I'm wondering if you guys think I should spring for some extra cooling fans for the case. There are 2 fans for the Antec 300 already installed; should I get fans for the two optional slots at the front of the case?

Also, are there any other things I may need to build to this system (other than an OS, keyboard, speakers, mouse, headphones)?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 20, 2010 8:53:24 PM

Yes, you need those two fans for intake. Airflow my man. I recommend getting 2 Scythes. It might be a bit loud, so you may need to get a fan controller later if you can't bear it. But the cooling will phenomenal. I've never used the 300, but from what I've seen, the two givens are exhaust fans. You should get two fans (Scythes) for intake and airflow will take course.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Great cheap fans, but probably not the best if your exhaust fans aren't the same CFM. So... Maybe go with these?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
December 22, 2010 7:02:50 PM

Another quick question: I only plan on running 1 6850 as of right now, but I would like the option to have 2 6850's running in Crossfire in the future. Is the 650w power supply sufficient? What if I also plan on upgrading the ram, so that the final upgrade would have 2x 6850's and 8 gigs of RAM (4 x 2gig sticks)?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 23, 2010 3:54:19 AM

Depends, which 650watt psu is it?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
December 24, 2010 12:08:00 AM

OH the earthwatts, yeah its sufficent. If you don't think it can handle it, go with the 650watt from XFX joel suggested. If not that, you could go with a corsair TX series psu. But the earthwatts should handle it fine.
December 25, 2010 4:43:33 PM

giaguaro33 said:

Finally, here comes the embarrassing part. ... I'm still a little nervous about screwing things up.


Don't be embarrassed. Don't be afraid (Unless you're one of those folks where everything you touch turns to dust...)

Couple precautions and some care and you should have no difficulty.

Do realize some of this stuff is delicate. Don't exert excessive force if something seems like it's not going to fit. Figure out why it doesn't fit and address that. Also realize some things will take a bit of effort to seat, like PATA drive power connectors (end even harder to separate.) RAM takes a bit to seat because of the pressure requirement on each and every one of a couple hundred contacts. Processors should not take much effort.

Do realize that many parts are static sensitive, particularly when not assembled. (*) Before putting stuff into the mobo, touch some part of the case to discharge any static. you do not want to discharge static through a RAM stick. A static strap can help, but I've never used one and only ever fried a chip handing it to someone else and not making contact before handing them the chip. Just be aware of the risk from static, particularly during the heating season.

I'm sure I'm repeating information contained in a sticky somewhere in this forum, but I haven't run across it yet so maybe someone else can.

(*) I once reached for an HP laptop and touch was preceded by a HUGE spark to the keyboard. It went dark and required a new system board. Props to all of my Thinkpads that withstood static sparks and never skipped a beat.

Good luck with your new system!
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