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December 21, 2010 1:03:00 AM

Hi,

Im about to buy 2 of the following systems for my kids to build their first rigs.
Any comments or opinions would be welcome.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (FPS), work/school (Office), surfing the internet, watching movies

Parts Not Required:keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Country of Origin: Canada

Overclocking: Not sure yet

SLI or Crossfire: Later

Monitor Resolution:1920x1080

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

CPU: Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus III Formula LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard w/SupremeFX X-Fi discrete Audio Card

Memory: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR

video card: XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Hard drive: Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

Cooling: COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS

Cost: Approx $1250ea incl Tax and Shipping.

Already ordered the cases will be ordering the rest tomorrow.

Thanks.
Gord

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December 21, 2010 2:39:32 AM

I would wait for Sandy Bridge on January 5th, this should be faster with even the cheapest quadcore outperforming the i5 760.

Also, the V6gt is a bit pricy for the performance, I think that the Hyper 212+ is a better idea especially if you aren't sure if this will be overclocked or not. If you do wait for Sandy Bridge, you'll want to get the i5 2500K as this can be overclocked, unlike some other sandy bridge processors that are FSB and multiplier locked.

For $5 less after rebate, this PSU is higher quality and modular:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

The rest of the build looks good, however for gaming and general use 4gb is enough, 8gb is pretty cheap though so if you can fit it into your budget go for it.
December 21, 2010 2:56:59 AM

@Gordo_45 Are you partial towards Intel ??
IMO for a gaming PC, even an AMD Phenom II X4 based PCs would be as good and would offer far better value for money IMO,...
ALso 8GB of RAM is not necessary for a gaming PC,...
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December 21, 2010 4:13:16 AM

im not really trying to lower my costs on this (unless i can get it down enough to get two cards for crossfire)
im really just looking for better value for my dollar like maybe the suggestion to go with the xfx PSU instead of the corsair.

can't really wait for sandy bridge there xmas presents we can upgrade them at a later date i suppose.
December 21, 2010 4:16:43 AM

gkay09 said:
@Gordo_45 Are you partial towards Intel ??
IMO for a gaming PC, even an AMD Phenom II X4 based PCs would be as good and would offer far better value for money IMO,...
ALso 8GB of RAM is not necessary for a gaming PC,...


actually no im not partial to intel every system i have ever build has been an AMD just figured i would give intel a chance this time.
and as for the 8gig for the price i'll stick with it.
December 21, 2010 4:30:31 AM

^ Well you can easily get 2x HD 6850s I guess, or maybe even the HD 6870 Crossfire...
X4 955 + ASUS 890GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GSKillz 8GB DDR3(IMO 8GB is not at all required, 4GB would easily suffice for gaming,...)
$20 off w/ promo code EMCZNZT38, ends 12/22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair 650TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$10 off w/ promo code EMCZNZR53, ends 12/20

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB
$15 off with promo code HARDOCP1215A, ends 12/22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD, HDD - Same

CPU Cooler - This would be as good as the V6 or even better,...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - ~$1015
Or
with HD 6870 Crossfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair 750TX

Total - ~$1183
December 21, 2010 5:28:34 AM

It's newegg.ca so the prices are higher, but that's about what you want for AMD.
On newegg.ca, the sniper ram is $10 cheaper than the ripjaws cas9 ddr3 1600, either one is fine.
The XFX 750w is higher efficency, a better PSU and cheaper than the tx750 and has the power for 2x 6870 and overclocking.
The DVD and HDD are good.
For the motherboard and CPU, this combo:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item...
Just realized I was way too slow on the edit and I unintentionally posted the same link XD
December 21, 2010 5:37:14 PM

Case - You have a full tower there which may be a bit big in a bedroom. Would suggest an HAF 922 or equivalent DF series from Antec. If you think they'll move to twin GFX, then I'd stick w/the full tower....assuming it fits well in room w/ furniture.

PSU - the 750 is an oddball size.....you'll want an 850 watter for twin GFX cards and 650 for one GFX card.

For comparison purposes , the list below contains performance ratings (10 scale) at jonnyguru.com / prices as per newegg on 02/21/2010 and ones w/ double asterisks (**) made it onto silentpcreview.com's Editor's Choice List meaning they excelled at both electronic and acoustic performance:

850 Watters

Antec SG-850 - 10.0 ($220) **
Antec CP-850 - 10.0 ($110) **
XFX 850W Black Edition 10.0 ($185)
Corsair HX850 850W - 10.0 ($180)

Antec TruePower Quattro (TPQ-850) - 9.5 ($150)
Corsair TX850 - 9.5 ($140)
Seasonic M12D 850W - 9.5 (NLA) **
NorthQ Giant Connector 850W - 9.5 (NFS)
Etasis ET850 - 9.5 (NLA)
Silverstone Zeus ST85ZF - 9.5 (NLA)

Enermax Revolution 85+ 850W - 9.0 ($250)
Thrmaltake Toughpower XT 850W - 8.5 ($216)
OCZ Z Series 850W - 8.5 ($200)


650 Watters

Antec Signature 650W (10.0) OOS **
Seasonic X-650 650W (10.0) $160 **
Silverstone Olympia OP650 (10.0) NFS

Thermaltake Toughpower QFan 650W (9.5) NLA

Antec Earthwatts EA650 650W (9.0) $75

NFS - Not For Sale / NLA = No Longer Available / OOS - Out of Stock

MoBo - Asus' latest and greatest entry in the 1156 arena is the Sabertooth, cheaper and better option IMO than the Maximus. Newegg's been having trouble hanging onto them though

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Was $149 at Amazon but now $184.

But, as others have said, beware of buyer's remorse w/ Sandy Bridge arriving in early January .... but then .... maybe ya should wait until others suffer thru the "bleeding edge" and wait for mature BIOS's and till "revision A" hardware has been sold off and ya can get the "new and improved" models.....but then the next big thing will be on the horizon.

CPU Cooler - Drop that choice for one of the top 3 here
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

TIM - Add a TIM, here's a list but I'd avoid AS5 and it's 200 hour cure time.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

RAM - Can't see buying CAS 9 when CAS 7 and 8 often available at same price. Also you have a CPU cooler that begs a 50% OC but your RAM only rated for 25% OC (1333)

This CAS 9 DDR3-1600 is only $39 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CAS 8 at $64
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CAS 7 at $64
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CAS 6 at $89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX Card - Unless power supply size becomes an issue ... I'd take the GTX 470

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

Quote:
"We should also mention that the GeForce GTX 470 can use nearly twice the power of the Radeon HD 6850 under load, which might be a concern for folks without a lot of power supply overhead. On the other hand, the GeForce GTX 470 probably has more available overclocking overhead than the Radeon HD 6870, since AMD's entry is clocked quite high to begin with."


$219 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
December 24, 2010 10:08:31 AM

well thanks for the advise
i finaly went with the following

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

CPU: Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus III Formula LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard w/SupremeFX X-Fi discrete Audio Card

Memory: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR

video card: XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Hard drive: Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

Cooling: COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan

PSU: XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC

Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS

and added monitors
ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED Black 23.6" 5ms Widescreen LED Backlight LCD monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 20,000,000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers @ $219.00 ea

total cost per system incl tax and shipping $1545ea

now for the keyboards and mice....need to finish it off with some nice gaming ones (preferable without the ridiculous pricetags)
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