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460 gtx 768mb vs 460gtx 1gb vs 5770 1gb

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October 23, 2010 3:09:38 PM

Hey guys my 9800gt just died on me and i need a new replacement,I wanna be able to play the latest games such as metro and crysis and other graphic intensive games at at least 30-40 fps at maximum settings.I m not planning to upgrade after this for the next 2 to 3 years,so i have to make this current upgrade last,I m only 16 so my parents are buying me the card,and their not very enthusiatic about it,so i have a strict budget,I m also not planning to overclock and my motherboard doesn't support sli or crossfire.

Here are my Specs

Core 2 quad q8400 @ 2.4Ghz
Gigabyte g31m es2c mobo
4 gb of ram
600 watt generic power supply
17 inch lcd monitor with native res @ (1280x1024) not im not planning to change monitor for maybe 3-4 yrs cause my parents wont allow it :( 
9800gt (broken)


Also i live in the Philippines so warranty is gonna be hard to come by here and prices are somewhat different.




Any advice would be appreciated Thanks :) 
a c 1363 U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 3:14:56 PM

GTX460 1 GB is the most powerful followed by the 768MB. Looking at your resolution though a HD5770 should do excellent.
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a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 3:17:18 PM

Could you give us some general prices for the cards you can buy in the Philippines? I know in the US we've just seen some decent price drops on the cards you mention. Also with that monitor resolution, you shouldn't notice a difference between a 460 768mb and 460 1gb, so you probably can drop the 1gb from the list and save some money.
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October 23, 2010 3:25:57 PM

Sure the Prices are
Inno3D GTX460 768mb @ ₱7,500.00 or $174
Inno3D GTX460 OC 1gb @ ₱10,500.00 or $244
Palit GTX460 Sonic OC 1gb @ ₱10,100.00 or $234
XFX HD5770 1gb @ ₱7,450.00 or $173
Plus i almost forgot it has have good cooling because its hot as hell here
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a c 1363 U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 3:27:46 PM

Based on those prices get the GTX460 768MB! Best price/performance ratio.
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a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 3:28:34 PM

There are some nice coolers on some of the non-reference boards. For example MSI has the MSI Hawk or Twin Frozr II or Cyclone.
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October 23, 2010 4:26:34 PM

Alright Thanks for the advice guys.So its the 460 gtx then.Now comes the question of the brand.Whats the best brand for this card?Theres Evga,palit,Inno3d,Gigabyte and Msi cyclone available here which should i pick?
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a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2010 6:12:32 PM

Well, one question usually is warranty. However, I don't know which has the best warranty in the Philippines.

Next is cooling. The MSI cards I listed above have pretty good cooling. If you buy a reference card however (which actually has pretty decent GPU cooling) there is little difference between the cards except warranty. The manufacturers' websites might give warranty specifics for your region.
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October 24, 2010 11:25:38 AM

Thanks for the advice I think I'll just be going for the Either the Msi Cyclone or Palit or Inno3d.On an unrelated topic how do I confirm my account,I ve tried Visiting my email and clicking on the confirmation link,but it keeps telling me the link is incorrect.So how do I Confirm my account?
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a c 130 U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 11:28:33 AM

The MSI card is the better of those 3 by far as far as build quality etc goes. As for teh account im sorry i dont know.

Mactronix :) 
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a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 1:43:34 PM

Confirming you account is a constant problem around here. There are some ideas in this thread:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/33181-12-email-activa...

Though it doesn't always work. You can also post a thread in that sub-forum, as Admins often stop by there.
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a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 2:31:46 PM

Can you get any 6850's there? That would be the best deal likely.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 2:38:30 PM

ares1214 said:
Can you get any 6850's there? That would be the best deal likely.
It will probably take a lil while for the HD6000 cards to get to the more out of the way countries. He is using a 1280x1024 anyway. Usually the HD5770 is the best card I would recommend for a low resolution like that but with the GTX 460 768mb costing the same amount it is the obvious choice.
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October 24, 2010 2:39:39 PM

jyjjy said:
It will probably take a lil while for the HD6000 cards to get to the more out of the way countries. He is using a 1280x1024 anyway. Usually the HD5770 is the best card I would recommend for a low resolution like that but with the GTX 460 768mb costing the same amount it is the obvious choice.


Oh, then yeah, i agree. At that res, anything will really do, short of a GT430. :lol: 
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a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 2:58:49 PM

Core 2 quad q8400 @ 2.4Ghz
Gigabyte g31m es2c mobo
4 gb of ram
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600 watt generic power supply
17 inch lcd monitor with native res @ (1280x1024) not im not planning to change monitor for maybe 3-4 yrs cause my parents wont allow it
9800gt (broken)]Core 2 quad q8400 @ 2.4Ghz
Gigabyte g31m es2c mobo
4 gb of ram
600 watt generic power supply
17 inch lcd monitor with native res @ (1280x1024) not im not planning to change monitor for maybe 3-4 yrs cause my parents wont allow it
9800gt (broken)
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a gtx460 on a 600w generic psu is suicide. if you'd look at the sticker on it, it would roughly give out 250w.

oh and btw, the 9800gt was released way back 2008. local videocards, im from the philippines as well, have 2 years warranty on them. try to have it fixed.
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a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 3:56:52 PM

the 9800gt he was using uses 105w max. i wouldnt risk going for a gfx card using more power then that with his current power supply. the 5750 is a good choice for 1280x1024 and it uses 86w max (go green version uses less then 75w). the 5770 uses 108w max but you could get away with it.
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October 24, 2010 4:38:01 PM

wh3resmycar said:
a gtx460 on a 600w generic psu is suicide. if you'd look at the sticker on it, it would roughly give out 250w.

oh and btw, the 9800gt was released way back 2008. local videocards, im from the philippines as well, have 2 years warranty on them. try to have it fixed.







Unfortunately I cant get it fixed the warranty expired 2 months ago and the shops in Manila and I come from Bicol (which is 500km away) so its gonna hard getting good warranties on it.I 'm not planning on keeping the psu if possible(though its gonna be hard convincing my parents to buy a another one since my last branded psu was broke at the same time as the video card).So if gonna buy a new psu I'm gonna have to cut back on the budget again a little bit more narrowing my options to a 5770 or 460gtx 768mb.What kind of Psu would you recommend? and please specify the brand and its wattage
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October 24, 2010 5:02:04 PM

for a power supply, an OCZ staelthxstream , antec truepower or corsair of 600W or higher should do it. make sure you check how many volts are on the 12A rail of the powersupply.

what is the cheapest 5830 around yuo, at that resolution it will perform comparably to the gtx 460, and it'll be cheaper than upgradnig both your GPU and PSU.
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October 24, 2010 5:05:02 PM

infernox_01 said:
the 9800gt he was using uses 105w max. i wouldnt risk going for a gfx card using more power then that with his current power supply. the 5750 is a good choice for 1280x1024 and it uses 86w max (go green version uses less then 75w). the 5770 uses 108w max but you could get away with it.





Yeah but i dont really plan on keeping my psu(after all it was bought with Php600 or $14 so i dont really plan on keeping it).Plus the 5750 little is a too weak for me.I know I can play the latest and greatest games on it now for like 20-30 fps but take note i've already played the all the current latest and greatest games and already finished they're story lines(played them with my 9800gt before it broke for like 12-20 fps on battlefield bad company2 and metro 2033)So what looking for now is future proofing i wanna be able to play stuff like crysis 5 or something for the next 3-4 yrs and still get acceptable frames without spending huge amount of money.Its just that the way i see it with 5750 and maybe the 5770 they won't be able to give that in the next 3 or 4yrs.So i need something thats futureproof but doesn't cost a billion $.Who knows maybe nvidia or ati launch will cards with better perfomance to price ratio,after all i wont be buying till december. :) 
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October 24, 2010 5:09:23 PM

reignsupreme11 said:
for a power supply, an OCZ staelthxstream , antec truepower or corsair of 600W or higher should do it. make sure you check how many volts are on the 12A rail of the powersupply.

what is the cheapest 5830 around yuo, at that resolution it will perform comparably to the gtx 460, and it'll be cheaper than upgradnig both your GPU and PSU.





Ok thanks but how much would that psu cost? if it cost over php4000 or $93 i can't afford because its out of my budget.
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a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 5:39:33 PM

ocz stealthextremeII, the 600w variation costs 3000pesos not including shipping.
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a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 5:43:17 PM

Assuming prices are moderately comparable to US, you should be able to get a great PSU in the $60-70. Are you buying locally or is there a site you will order off of (so we can see selection)?
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a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2010 6:05:23 PM

there are new ati cards out. the 68xx series. fairly good performance with early drivers. in terms of performance for the price, the gtx 460 768mb is really good.
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October 25, 2010 4:13:48 AM

EXT64 said:
Assuming prices are moderately comparable to US, you should be able to get a great PSU in the $60-70. Are you buying locally or is there a site you will order off of (so we can see selection)?





I m buying locally but the shop does have a site heres the link

http://www.pcx.com.ph/index.php/components/graphic-card...
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October 25, 2010 4:28:09 AM

Anyways is this psu good enough for my rig

Provided i go for the 460

Thermaltake LitePower 700w or Fsp Everest 800w 80PLUS modular or Cooler Master Silent Pro M 600W or Corsair CMPSU-550VX 550w
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a c 376 U Graphics card
October 25, 2010 4:43:42 AM

Thermaltake isn't the best brand for power supplies but that unit should easily handle your system with a GTX 460 768mb.
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October 25, 2010 6:25:35 AM

jyjjy said:
Thermaltake isn't the best brand for power supplies but that unit should easily handle your system with a GTX 460 768mb.







Ok so your opinion which should i buy from the given list


Thermaltake LitePower 700w
Cooler Master Silent Pro M 600W
FSP Everest 800w 80PLUS modular
Corsair CMPSU-550VX 550w
CoolerMaster 550w Real Power SLI
Ttake ToughpowerXT 675w mod 80broz
600W OCZ StealthXStream II
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a c 376 U Graphics card
October 25, 2010 6:42:29 AM

Looking at the prices on that site you linked the Litepower 700w is probably your best choice for the money.
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October 25, 2010 7:04:40 AM

jyjjy said:
Looking at the prices on that site you linked the Litepower 700w is probably your best choice for the money.




Yeah but i dont really trust thermaltake.I mean P2900 or $64 for a 700w psu dont you think thats kind of suspicious considering other well known brands price their 500w and 600w psu for much more.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
October 25, 2010 7:44:24 AM

If you are willing to pay extra for quality then go for the Corsair 550VX. It doesn't get much better.
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October 25, 2010 11:10:04 AM

Is the Cooler Master silent Pro 600w any good?will it be able to run my rig with the 460 gtx?
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October 25, 2010 11:45:33 AM

I almost forgot does the 460 gtx need 2 pci e connectors.which of the powersupplies listed above have that?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
October 25, 2010 2:23:48 PM

The silent pro is good but the Corsair 550VX is higher quality, has more power on the +12v rail and is cheaper. The GTX 460 does use 2 power connectors and I believe all the units you listed have at least 2.
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October 27, 2010 8:04:52 PM

corsair power supplies are the best, and they are priced accordingly. the best part is a 600W corsair performs as good as a 700W of most other brands.
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November 8, 2010 8:22:23 AM

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November 8, 2010 8:23:19 AM

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