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PC shutrs down after 5 secs

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December 21, 2010 8:38:42 AM

Hey guys,

I have an older Pentium D (socket 775) PC tower given to me for repair,
the problem was that the computer shuts down after bootup into windows approximately 1 minute or so.

I had the opportunity to quickly run Coretemp where i saw the temp was 70C....so i turned it off, removed the thermal paste, put new one, reseated the heatsink and turned on..it lasted longer and went through the format, and install of XP untill 10 minute later turned off.

When i tried to turn it back on, nothing happened, i thought the power supply kicked the bucket, so i bought a new one (crappy for $20) 400W but just for testing, computer still wouldnt turn on

SO i bought a new Mainboard, reseated the heatsink (still looks bit wobbly), everything, now it turns on, but it lasts 5 secs and shuts down. I had the opportunity to check the temp in BIOS before it shut down, it registered 54C so i dont think its the temp.
Could it be the stupid heatsink not cooling the CPU? im stumped :( 

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December 21, 2010 10:14:09 AM

I would also think heatsink/cpu related, i think you are on the right track....

perhaps you can find a less expensive socket 775 cpu that is compatible with the board for tesing....
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December 21, 2010 12:08:02 PM

Work through our standard checklist and troubleshooting thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...
I mean work through, not just read over it. We spent a lot of time on this. It should find most of the problems.

If not, continue.

I have tested the following beep patterns on Gigabyte, eVGA, and ECS motherboards. Other BIOS' may be different.

Breadboard - that will help isolate any kind of case problem you might have.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/262730-31-breadboardi...

Breadboard with just motherboard, CPU & HSF, case speaker, and PSU.

Make sure you plug the CPU power cable in. The system will not boot without it.

I always breadboard a new build. It takes only a few minutes, and you know you are putting good parts in the case once you are finished.

You can turn on the PC by momentarily shorting the two pins that the case power switch goes to. You should hear a series of long, single beeps indicating memory problems. Silence indicates a problem with (in most likely order) the PSU, motherboard, or CPU. Remember, at this time, you do not have a graphics card installed so the load on your PSU will be reduced.

If no beeps:
Running fans and drives and motherboard LED's do not necessarily indicate a good PSU. In the absence of a single short beep, they also do not indicate that the system is booting.

At this point, you can sort of check the PSU. Try to borrow a known good PSU of around 550 - 600 watts. That will power just about any system with a single GPU. If you cannot do that, use a DMM to measure the voltages. Measure between the colored wires and either chassis ground or the black wires. Yellow wires should be 12 volts. Red wires: +5 volts, orange wires: +3.3 volts, blue wire : -12 volts, violet wire: 5 volts always on. Tolerances are +/- 5% except for the -12 volts which is +/- 10%.

The gray wire is really important. It should go from 0 to +5 volts when you turn the PSU on with the case switch. CPU needs this signal to boot.

You can turn on the PSU by completely disconnecting the PSU and using a paperclip or jumper wire to short the green wire to one of the neighboring black wires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXgQSokF4&feature=yout...

A way that might be easier is to use the main power plug. Working from the back of the plug where the wires come out, use a bare paperclip to short between the green wire and one of the neighboring black wires. That will do the same thing with an installed PSU. It is also an easy way to bypass a questionable case power switch.

This checks the PSU under no load conditions, so it is not completely reliable. But if it can not pass this, it is dead. Then repeat the checks with the PSU plugged into the computer to put a load on the PSU.

If the system beeps:
If it looks like the PSU is good, install a memory stick. Boot. Beep pattern should change to one long and several short beeps indicating a missing graphics card.

Silence or long single beeps indicate a problem with the memory.

Insert the video card and connect any necessary PCIe power connectors. Boot. At this point, the system should POST successfully (a single short beep). Notice that you do not need keyboard, mouse, monitor, or drives to successfully POST.
At this point, if the system doesn't work, it's either the video card or an inadequate PSU. Or rarely - the motherboard's PCIe interface.

Now start connecting the rest of the devices starting with the monitor, then keyboard and mouse, then the rest of the devices, testing after each step. It's possible that you can pass the POST with a defective video card. The POST routines can only check the video interface. It cannot check the internal parts of the video card.
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December 21, 2010 1:10:40 PM

haha, I see someone finally got the around to writing up a detailed generic, won't boot reply.

+100 to jsc

edit: totally just linking to that post from now on! :p 
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