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Advice on which GTX 460 to get

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December 21, 2010 8:28:37 PM

I am about to upgrade my system. And im trying to determine which GPU to get. After many reccommondations ive decided on the GTX 460. But it looks like their are many different versions (43 different models on newegg to be exact). These are just a few that stood out to me.

Please help tell me which GTX 460 is the best bang for the buck.

2GB ($229)
Palit NE5X460SF1142 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Sonic 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1GB ($159) with rebate
MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

768MB ($119) with rebate and promo code
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Current Build
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor BX80557E6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115003
1 x ZEROtherm CF900 92mm CPU Cooler

Mother Board
ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131045

RAM
OCZ Platinum Revision 2 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P800R22GK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227139

Graphics Card
EVGA 256-P2-N624-AR GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130056





It looks like my mother board doesnt have a PCI Express 2.0? does that matter? am i wasting money?

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a b B Homebuilt system
December 21, 2010 8:33:44 PM

I'd try to go with a company I have heard of....

EVGA, MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, etc....
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 21, 2010 8:40:35 PM

There are numerous differences between these cards, most notable of which is the memory size. You haven't mentioned your playing resolution or budget, but I'd consult the reviews w/ that info in hand and buy the best card you can afford. As far as brand names, I usually select EVGA or Asus cards.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 21, 2010 8:46:03 PM

Helps to know the native resolution of your monitor.

I would recommend the 1gb model as the best for the money. Look at the warranty before deciding which one. No point really in getting a factory overclocked card because any of them will easily overclock.

To get the most of that video card your going to need to overclock your cpu a bit, 3ghz would be really easy. Also 4gb of memory is ideal for todays gaming, which I'm sure you'll be doing if you get a GTX460.
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December 21, 2010 8:52:07 PM

My budget is $100-$300 but would perfer it to be closer to $100 than $300 unless their is significant gains.

Im not sure which resolution ill be playing. I generally adjust the my resolution and settings as high as i can without the game becoming choppy. My monitor states 1680x1050 as the highest resolution
Monitor
SCEPTRE X20WG-Naga Black 20.1" 5ms (GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 Built-in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My current graphics card runs new games like COD Black ops choppy at even the lowest settings. Nearly all new games are un playable even at lowest settings.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 21, 2010 9:27:53 PM

Ok, well 1680x1050 is your monitors natives resolution, so that's what your supposed to keep it at for the best looking picture.

I'm not surprised newer games are choppy considering your limited on ram and your video card is very old.
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December 21, 2010 10:05:21 PM

My current mother board doesnt support ram faster than PC2 6400 so im not sure i want to spend alot on new ram umtil i upgrade my mobo. Im planning on upgrading my mother board, CPU and RAM together in about year. But was hoping a new GPU would hold me over, and be transferable to the new build, maybe even buying a second GPU to go SLI when they go dirt cheap about the time I upgrade.

Thank you all for the help but im still unsure which GPU to get, from the discussion it looks like:
1GB model
name brand (EVGA or Asus) possibly MSI? or Gigabyte?

But their is still several models to choose from with these criteria. Could someone please help me narrow it down a bit more.

Also since my mother board doesnt have a PCI Express 2.0, am i wasting my money upgrading to a GTX 460? will i still get the benifit?
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 21, 2010 10:53:45 PM

I had EVGA GTX 460s and they're great. EVGA's customer service is also much better than the average CS department. Get the 1GB model; the 768MB model has some major trouble with games, and the 2GB Palit card is buggy and doesn't work (either because of the 2GB or because it's Palit).
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 22, 2010 1:07:53 PM

This One Time said:
My current mother board doesnt support ram faster than PC2 6400 so im not sure i want to spend alot on new ram umtil i upgrade my mobo. Im planning on upgrading my mother board, CPU and RAM together in about year. But was hoping a new GPU would hold me over, and be transferable to the new build, maybe even buying a second GPU to go SLI when they go dirt cheap about the time I upgrade.

Thank you all for the help but im still unsure which GPU to get, from the discussion it looks like:
1GB model
name brand (EVGA or Asus) possibly MSI? or Gigabyte?

But their is still several models to choose from with these criteria. Could someone please help me narrow it down a bit more.

Also since my mother board doesnt have a PCI Express 2.0, am i wasting my money upgrading to a GTX 460? will i still get the benifit?


Your not listening to the advice your being given. Nobody said anything about getting faster ram. I said your limited on ram, meaning you don't have enough for gaming.

I also said to make your GTX460 choice based on warranty. Some are 1 yr, some 2yr, some 3yr and some lifetime. I also said don't bother with a factory overclocked card because they all will overclock very easily. Also some factory overclocked cards will not allow you to overclock further, meaning you could do better yourself.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 22, 2010 7:58:17 PM

geekapproved said:

I also said to make your GTX460 choice based on warranty. Some are 1 yr, some 2yr, some 3yr and some lifetime. I also said don't bother with a factory overclocked card because they all will overclock very easily. Also some factory overclocked cards will not allow you to overclock further, meaning you could do better yourself.


EVGA used to have a lifetime warrantied card out there (I had them), but it seems that they are hard to find now (the product codes for EVGA Lifetime Warrantied products end in AR, just FYI).

The overclocking is really easy as you mentioned. Just install MSI Afterburner and you're good to go. I had my pair running at 850MHz Core, 1700MHz Shader, 2100MHz memory clock, which was higher than any of the factory cards I could find. Plus, EVGA ENCOURAGES overclocking (they include Precision, an OC tool that doesn't let you touch the core clock) and it does NOT void the warranty.

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December 22, 2010 8:28:38 PM

Ok so I narrowed it down.

Process of elimination:
- Of the 43 cards only 29 cards were 1gb
- Of the 29 i eliminated non name brands and cards that had less than 20 reviews leaving me with 15
- Of the 15 top cards 13 of them had 3 year waranty and 2 had life time. Leaving me with 2 options
- Of the 2 options only one came not over clocked

The Winner!
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) FPB EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$174.98 with rebate


Its name brand, life time warranty, comes not overclocked, and out of 59 reviews 53 of them gave it 4 or 5 stars.

As it turns out its one of the cheaper ones only $15 more than the cheapest name brand being the:

MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$159.99 with rebate
(only 3 year warranty) but this one has a slightly faster clock


If anyone has anymore advise let me know. Ill be making my purchase within a week since the rebate runs out on the 31st.

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December 22, 2010 8:36:04 PM

Part of me wonders if its worth the risk to wait until after the 31st to see if they renew the rebate with a bigger rebate. but id hate to lose the $30 rebate currently offered if they dont issue a new one.

What do you think?
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 22, 2010 8:47:41 PM

You can't wait forever, every card is going to drop in price right after you buy it, that's how it works. My HD5850 has dropped $140 since I bought it 4 months ago.
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December 22, 2010 8:54:48 PM

Woah! wait a second...hold the phone.... I dont get it....

EVGA also has a deal on the GTX 465 and its cheaper than the 460?

EVGA 01G-P3-1467-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$159.99 with rebate
lifetime warantee

Is it better? its core clock is lower... but it has more cores..... Effective Memory Clock is lower too...... It also supports 3 way SLI for when i upgrade my mobo is a year or two...

Whats with this GTX 465? is it better than the GTX 460 that i was about to buy?

Which one should I buy?
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 22, 2010 9:38:55 PM

Do NOT get the GTX 465. The 460s clocked in better and faster than the 465; that's why they are cheaper than the 460s.

The EVGA one you picked was the one I had (I didn't think they'd have it because they didn't list it every time I've looked for it recently). It has the same style cooling as the 470/480/57/580. It pulls air from the case in over the GPU and then blows it out the expansion slot in the case.
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December 22, 2010 10:31:32 PM

Ok thank you all for the help ill stick with the 460. Ill buy it this weekend.
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) FPB EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130566
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