mkt during minelaying question

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James M. Devine, 14 Sep. 04, 16:50:

> What happens first the making of torps or the laying of mines?
Laying before making.


Grettings from Nordholz (Germany)
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"Stefan Reuther" <stefan.news@arcor.de> wrote in message
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> James M. Devine wrote:
> > What happens first the making of torps or the laying of mines?
>
> RTFHostOrder.
>
> Mine lay is first, mkt happens after. This is quite useful because you
> can lay everything you have and make new torps after, so you are not
> empty in combat.


You mean make new torps next trn.

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Op 2004-09-14, Merlyn schreef
<Merlyn@spammersremovethistobeblocked.thelastdomain.com>:
> "Stefan Reuther" <stefan.news@arcor.de> wrote in message
>> Mine lay is first, mkt happens after. This is quite useful because you
>> can lay everything you have and make new torps after, so you are not
>> empty in combat.
>
> You mean make new torps next trn.

Maybe I don't understand you correctly, but: no. On the client side
you have some torps, minerals and credits in your ship. You set your
mission to Lay Mines and the fcode to mkt. During host processing your
ship will convert your existing torpedoes into mines and make new
torpedoes from your cargo and credits. Those new torpedoes can be used
in the same hostrun to kill other ships.

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"Maurits van Rees" <planets.maurits@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> Op 2004-09-14, Merlyn schreef
> <Merlyn@spammersremovethistobeblocked.thelastdomain.com>:
> > "Stefan Reuther" <stefan.news@arcor.de> wrote in message
> >> Mine lay is first, mkt happens after. This is quite useful because you
> >> can lay everything you have and make new torps after, so you are not
> >> empty in combat.
> >
> > You mean make new torps next trn.
>
> Maybe I don't understand you correctly, but: no. On the client side
> you have some torps, minerals and credits in your ship. You set your
> mission to Lay Mines and the fcode to mkt. During host processing your
> ship will convert your existing torpedoes into mines and make new
> torpedoes from your cargo and credits. Those new torpedoes can be used
> in the same hostrun to kill other ships.
>

I didn't know mkt would drop mines. When did this happen? mkt only makes
mines.

md# - Registered Create and lay minefield using (#)x10 torpedoes. (IE: md5
will drop 50 Torps worth into mines.)

mdh - Registered Create and lay minefield using half of all torpedoes on
board. (IE: if carrying 40 torpedoes will drop 20 Torps worth into mines.)

mdq - Registered Create and lay minefield using one-quarter of all torpedoes
on board. (IE: if carrying 40 torpedoes will drop 10 Torps worth into
mines.)

miR - Registered Create and lay minefield using all torpedoes on board as
Race R. (1-9;a b; IE: mi5 will lay a Privateer minefield.)

mkt - Registered Build torpedoes in space with minerals and MCs on board
ship. HOST/PHOST2/PHOST3 will create all torpedoes AFTER Mine-Laying stage.

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"Maurits van Rees" <planets.maurits@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> Op 2004-09-14, Merlyn schreef
> <Merlyn@spammersremovethistobeblocked.thelastdomain.com>:
> > I didn't know mkt would drop mines. When did this happen? mkt only
makes
> > mines.
>
> True. But you also set your mission to Lay Mines, so all existing
> torpedoes are turned into mines.
>
> > mkt - Registered Build torpedoes in space with minerals and MCs on board
> > ship. HOST/PHOST2/PHOST3 will create all torpedoes AFTER Mine-Laying
stage.
>
> Yes. In the same turn you lay mines with mission "Lay Mines" and make
> some shiny new torpedoes with friendly code "mkt". You just can't
> control how many torps you use for mine laying as you can't set any of
> the mdX fcodes. Note that Phost defines some extra missions to control
> the laying of mines, so you don't have to choose between mdX and mkt.


Maybe PHost but in Host you cannot Lay mines and make mines in the same trn.
If you set your mission to lay mines and friendly code to mkt it does not
know how many mines to lay, you must tell it with a friendly code which is
not mkt.

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* Merlyn <Merlyn@spammersremovethistobeblocked.thelastdomain.com> wrote:

> Maybe PHost but in Host you cannot Lay mines and make mines in the
> same trn.

But you can lay mines and make new torpedos.

> If you set your mission to lay mines and friendly code to mkt it
> does not know how many mines to lay,

I think, *all* existing torpedos will be converted into mines.

Regards, Heiko

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Op 2004-09-14, Merlyn schreef
<Merlyn@spammersremovethistobeblocked.thelastdomain.com>:
> Maybe PHost but in Host you cannot Lay mines and make mines in the same trn.
> If you set your mission to lay mines and friendly code to mkt it does not
> know how many mines to lay, you must tell it with a friendly code which is
> not mkt.

That doesn't make sense. The fcodes that you mentioned - md#, mdh,
mdq, miR - are all *registered* friendly codes. That would mean that
you can't lay mines *at all* when you play with the unregistered
version. Which is not true.

I just did a test with an old host, version 3.21. So your mileage may
vary. But I don't think this basic behaviour would change. Let's
see: registered DosPlan, Feds playing. Standard Nocturne with 20 mark
5 and some minerals and megacredits for torpedo building.

Mission = Lay Mines, fcode = mkt: mines are laid, new torps are made.

Mission = Lay Mines, fcode = 3c$ (random): mines are laid, new torps
are made.

Why it didn't work with you I don't know.

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"Maurits van Rees" <planets.maurits@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> That doesn't make sense. The fcodes that you mentioned - md#, mdh,
> mdq, miR - are all *registered* friendly codes. That would mean that
> you can't lay mines *at all* when you play with the unregistered
> version. Which is not true.
>
> I just did a test with an old host, version 3.21. So your mileage may
> vary. But I don't think this basic behaviour would change. Let's
> see: registered DosPlan, Feds playing. Standard Nocturne with 20 mark
> 5 and some minerals and megacredits for torpedo building.
>
> Mission = Lay Mines, fcode = mkt: mines are laid, new torps are made.
>
> Mission = Lay Mines, fcode = 3c$ (random): mines are laid, new torps
> are made.
>
> Why it didn't work with you I don't know.
>

I will setup a test game today.

Merlyn