Well i just spent the better part of the last 24 hours tinkering with Nvidia's 3DTV Play add-on for existing Nvision owners on my Samsung LN46C750 46-Inch 1080p 3D LCD HDTV and I must say I am impressed. While the 3D Play software did not recognize Aliens vs Predator as a supported title, it really stood out in the games I tested. At one point I literally ducked when a steel beam looked as if it were going to hit me in the head. That said i was sitting about 36 inches away from my screen making the experience that much more immersive. I am not however without my compliments.
As a PC gamer at heart...Playing games at a lower resolution then I am normally accustomed to drives me absolutely crazy. To elaborate I have been gaming at 1080P for some time on a large screen. While 3D HDTV's do have 1080P screens when you go to 3D game mode the image is dropped to 720P@60hz per eye. Lets just say no amount of filtering could get rid of the jaggies we PC gamers SOO strive to get rid of or at least minimize. Though for the record this is a limitation of the TV's hardware and HDMI 1.4 spec.
I tried many settings and configurations in games to eliminate this problem...even running at 24hz per eye so I could achieve 1080P which hdmi 1.4 does allow. I could get games to load and they did look gorgeous as long as you didn't move; at such a slow refresh rate games were unplayable as I suspected they would be. Though it was a nice to get a taste of whats down the potential pipeline for displays in what I hope is the very near future. Can we say 3DTV Play @1440P please???
Dispite the inability to play games at 1080P which is hardly an Nvidia issue, 3DTV play is an outstanding product if you have the hardware to support it. I had previously had an Nvision kit and setup was as easy as attaching my sensor and downloading the the latest graphics, 3Dvison drivers and a couple clicks in nvidia's control panel was all it took.
You don't need Nvidia's 3dvision glasses for this to work just your TV's. In fact they don't work for this at all rather it this was an attempt not to jade early adopters of 3dvision. If you don't have a kit you you have to pay for the use of the software, if you do its a freebie. I'd say thank you to nvidia but honestly as avid purchaser of their cards I think the software, just like physx, should be free for all who purchase their video cards. Its that freedom of choice that so many of us on PC stay on PC gaming for and I feel nvidia is shooting themselves in the foot if they keep this as a long term strategy unless conversely we don't take hit when the 3D games wave does hit. Many publishers have gone on the record saying 3D games may be as much as 10 to fifteen dollars more then regular titles on the PS 3 for example.
Unfortunately, not all my games would work (I am looking at you EA over Crysis) and others struggled to render both the frames at playible frame rates like metro 2033 unless I lowered my settings a little. Which surprised me at 720P considering I run a direct X 10 machine with 3 sli'd gtx 285 FTW's fed by a 4ghz i7 920 Cpu with 12 gigs of ram. When running in “2d” I have no trouble with maxing out metro 2033 so a heads up for those who want take the full 3D leap...your going to need some decent hardware for newer or resource hungry games at least. I am guessing two GTX 285's or preferably two GTX 460's since they have similar horsepower plus the added benefit of direct X 11.
Anyways I thought I would post this for all the technophiles who are thinking of a 3DTV to add to their PC for the holidays. If your on the fence and your OK with 720P for 3D games I would say its worth every penny and jump when your funds allow you too
Can you clarify, when you using your 3D tv, you used the TV's shutter glasses and not Nvidia's 3d vision glasses ?
I read up about this the other day. Wonder what part of the vision software is not in the regular driver release that would stop someone without a Vision kit from getting this all going ?
edit : nevermind
* Microsoft® Windows® Windows 7 32/64-bit or Windows Vista 32/64-bit
* Intel® Core™2 Duo or AMD Athlon™ X2 CPU or higher
* 1GB of system memory. (2GB is recommended)
* 100 MB free disk space
* 3D Vision USB IR emitter or notebook PC with Built-in 3D Vision IR emitter.
NOTE:When using 3DTV Play™ software to connect to a 3D TV, 3D Vision active shutter glasses are not used. Instead the 3D TV manufacturer’s 3D glasses are used
Yeah just the TV's glasses will do and thanks for posting the nvidia requirement specs. They will be releasing a software only fix which you don't need the USB reciever if your willing to spend money on what is basically a glorified device driver...which from what i can see on the website is yet to happen. Its a great bonus that early adopters of nvision get first swing at the driver. It just puts a smile on my face to think i was one of them
thanks for the short review! I'm really interested in 3DTV play and I'm glad to hear that it seems to work probably except for the 1080p issue.
I have a Panasonic 3d TV and 3DTV play seems to be a easy way to get some 3D gaming content on it. But I still have a question regarding the needed hardware. The NVIDIA description says you need to have the NVIDIA usb reciever. Is that right? I mean, as far as I know you can't buy it without the glasses, so buying the whole package, seems to be a waste of money, cause you'll never use the glasses anyway. Or am I wrong here?
I'm confused by that as well, I would think that if you're using the glasses that come with your 3D TV they work with the emitter built into the TV not the Nvidia emitter.
I just ordered the 3d vision glasses kit today after finding a good deal on a 3d vision monitor last week, I was hoping that if I sprung for a 3d TV I would be able to use the NVidia glasses but I guess not. Thanks for the post, sounds like the limitations of HDMI 1.4 would make it wise to find a 3D display with a D-sub or dual link DVI.
Nvidia has coded their software to only function in the presence of that usb emitter.
Even though they have found a way for you to get 3d gaming/ movie playback using your TV's glasses.
So if you don't get a 120mhz PC monitor, you will NOT be able use Nvidia glasses/ .
But will be allowed to launch and use your 3d TV's hardware.