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October 26, 2010 6:43:57 PM

Hey guys,
I really need some answers..
In the past few months, I first ordered a GeForce 210, it was no good.
Just recently I bought a GeForce 240 because I thought the GeForce 210 I ordered was defective and still, the GeForce 240 was no good.
I contacted EVGA support today and they told me it's either a broken slot on my mobo or my PSU isn't strong enough. What's the problem?
I have a 300W +12V 19A PSU, enough to run the GeForce 240.
The problem is, When I put the card in my computer, it gets stuck on the BIOS screen.
Help a poor fellow out please~ :'( 

EDIT: This is my PSU by the way, ( Came with my HP pre-built computer )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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a c 235 U Graphics card
October 26, 2010 6:54:15 PM

sounds more like a mobo issue. two hamsters on an exercise wheel can power the GT 210
October 26, 2010 7:14:07 PM

ct1615 said:
sounds more like a mobo issue. two hamsters on an exercise wheel can power the GT 210


Well my PSU is around 6 years old. Could that be the case?
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a b U Graphics card
October 26, 2010 7:34:49 PM

Before you buy something is good to visit Toms Hardware web bage in charts (graphic cards) GF 240 consume 140 watts in 2d you can see it here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2010-gaming-graphi...

and 225 watts in 3d you can see it here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2010-gaming-graphi...

There for with 300 watts PSU is impossible to work it you need at list 650 watts PSU to be sure ,also you must connect to your motherboard a power cable for the CPU and a power cable to the card there is no other way.
a c 235 U Graphics card
October 26, 2010 7:44:53 PM

Quote:
Before you buy something is good to visit Toms Hardware web bage in charts (graphic cards) GF 240 consume 140 watts in 2d you can see it here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2010-gaming-graphi...

and 225 watts in 3d you can see it here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2010-gaming-graphi...

There for with 300 watts PSU is impossible to work it you need at list 650 watts PSU to be sure ,also you must connect to your motherboard a power cable for the CPU and a power cable to the card there is no other way.


OMG :lol: 

those are system total power requirements!! not just the card!! you don't need 650w to run the GT240!! before you post your idiotic opinions I suggest you learn something first!!

total system power in a stress test. the GT 210 in the system won't break 180w. the GT 240 won't break 230w (as Giatrakis the fool stated but totally misinterpreted)
Test System Specs: Hardware
- Intel Core i7 965 Extreme Edition (Overclocked @ 3.70GHz)
-x3 2GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 (CAS 9-9-9-24)
- Asus P6T Deluxe (Intel X58)

a c 235 U Graphics card
October 26, 2010 7:49:37 PM

SneakyNoob said:
Well my PSU is around 6 years old. Could that be the case?



possibly but the GT 210 draws so little power. its basically like adding an extra fan to your PC. what PC do you have if its 6 years old? it has a PCI-E x16 slot, correct?
a b U Graphics card
October 26, 2010 7:54:37 PM

6 years ago would have just been the release of PCI-E slots. It was the same year I bought my old system, I should have waited a month as I purchased an AGP board and was stuck with a 6800gt until this year.
October 26, 2010 8:29:10 PM

ct1615 said:
possibly but the GT 210 draws so little power. its basically like adding an extra fan to your PC. what PC do you have if its 6 years old? it has a PCI-E x16 slot, correct?


I own the famous HP pavilion a1320n heh.
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Docume...

And no, I have a single slot of the PCI-Expess 1.0
a c 235 U Graphics card
October 26, 2010 9:53:15 PM

well getting a good PSU is always a good idea and you can move it over to a new build...which you may need with a bad PCI-E x16 slot.
October 26, 2010 10:10:40 PM

so should I just RMA my card?

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a c 235 U Graphics card
October 26, 2010 11:55:58 PM
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i think your card is fine, you can always take it to a PC store to have it tested. although if they tell you its dead and try to sell you a better card I would run out of there.

its more then likely your motherboard, possibly your PSU. without a second PC you can't really tell.
October 27, 2010 12:20:20 AM

ct1615 said:
i think your card is fine, you can always take it to a PC store to have it tested. although if they tell you its dead and try to sell you a better card I would run out of there.

its more then likely your motherboard, possibly your PSU. without a second PC you can't really tell.


yes, it's most definitely my mobo. sucks :'( 
would it help if i got this lol?
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=512-P1-N94...
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 8:20:25 AM

My frient ct1615 i have a UPS and i always check my computers watts load to the Power Panel you can see my system power consumption while i'm writing this in here:



it's 198 watts in idle mode and i have gigabyte HD5770 overclocked 895 hz GPU if i run it in 850 hz GPU in idle mode i have only 171 watts so everyting i post is very well checked be sure of that. Our frient is telling us his system "it gets stuck on the BIOS screen" this means (assuming he had connected the power cable to his card and also the power cable for his cpu to the motherboad) that his PC has no power to start or something isn't well in his installation.

I mean if he overclocked and his CPU, RAM (most of them do) is very possible to brake 300 watts limit for sure. Toms Hardware charts are also in idle and under stress are you clame is NOT good to take a look in it before you do something? I say it's a must.

Ps: in 198 watts is also my TFT monitor power consumption but the +27 watts in +45 hz in GPU it gives you a pretty good idea what overclock means in watts consumption, i suggested 650 watts PSU means he can overclock almost everything, even in some cards he can do a SLI or a CF with safety in the end if needs to be sure he must have a PSU like that.

Ps2: Correction its only +18 watts in idle mode. Running HD5770 with the settings in Catalyst 10.10 to 895 hz Gpu 1200MHz DDR5 RAm (the default was 850 1200Mhz RAM) in Catalyst BUT it was running the HD5770 the GPU in 157 Mhz 300Mhz ram in 2d idle mode with the default settings. With 895Mhz to GPU in Catalyst the GPU is running in 400 MHz and the memory in 1200 Mhz idle mode giving better results in 2d.

SneakyNoob i'm done from this thread.
a c 235 U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 4:28:35 PM

Quote:
My frient ct1615 i have a UPS and i always check my computers watts load to the Power Panel you can see my system power consumption while i'm writing this in here:

http://admins.bnb.gr/~giatrakis/powerpanel.jpg

it's 198 watts in idle mode and i have gigabyte HD5770 overclocked 895 hz GPU if i run it in 850 hz GPU in idle mode i have only 171 watts so everyting i post is very well checked be sure of that. Our frient is telling us his system "it gets stuck on the BIOS screen" this means (assuming he had connected the power cable to his card and also the power cable for his cpu to the motherboad) that his PC has no power to start or something isn't well in his installation.

I mean if he overclocked and his CPU, RAM (most of them do) is very possible to brake 300 watts limit for sure. Toms Hardware charts are also in idle and under stress are you clame is NOT good to take a look in it before you do something? I say it's a must.

Ps: in 198 watts is also my TFT monitor power consumption but the +27 watts in +45 hz in GPU it gives you a pretty good idea what overclock means in watts consumption, i suggested 650 watts PSU means he can overclock almost everything, even in some cards he can do a SLI or a CF with safety in the end if needs to be sure he must have a PSU like that.

Ps2: Correction its only +18 watts in idle mode. Running HD5770 with the settings in Catalyst 10.10 to 895 hz Gpu 1200MHz DDR5 RAm (the default was 850 1200Mhz RAM) in Catalyst BUT it was running the HD5770 the GPU in 157 Mhz 300Mhz ram in 2d idle mode with the default settings. With 895Mhz to GPU in Catalyst the GPU is running in 400 MHz and the memory in 1200 Mhz idle mode giving better results in 2d.

SneakyNoob i'm done from this thread.


so let me get this straight, your PC idles at 200w (with monitor so really around 180w) with a card that we both have proved needs more power then a GT240 (which by the way does not need an external power connector, it gets all its power from the mobo) and you think this proves you need a 650w PSU to run it? How exactly does this prove you are not a total idiot? because so far every check that you are is signed off on.
a c 235 U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 4:30:43 PM

SneakyNoob said:
yes, it's most definitely my mobo. sucks :'( 
would it help if i got this lol?
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=512-P1-N94...


why, it draws the same power as the GT210. you need to have your PC checked out if you don't have a spare PSU or mobo to swap out.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 7:13:03 PM

There is NO point and it will help NOONE to argue in public our frient wrote he can't get the bloody card to work in his combo. And i wrote my Combo is idle in 171 watts couse i have alote of staff conneted (this is NOT a topic for this thread) and i HAVE proven the overclock to HD5770 is 0.4 watts per Mhz you have proven NOTHING.

Also i give as an answere the Toms Hardware Charts http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2010-gaming-graphics...
is the idle charts you will see your 240 1 watt more than 5770 couse is done in the same PC. What do you mean if i get the 240 will have better watts consumption? you must be out of your mind. Toms Hardware tests are the BEST tests ever you gonna argue and with them? you dont have the equipment to say what is your power consumption now.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 8:10:22 PM

In TOMS hardware 2d IDLE i see Nvidia Geforce GT 240 237 watts ATI Radeon HD 5770 245 watts you are right i have alote off staff to do forgive me i waste your time.

You are giving the 3d power drow link not the idle link and in there the power drow of Nvidia Geforce GT 240 is 225 watts and the ATI Radeon HD 5570 is only 198 watts in end what resolts do you read i really have no clue.
October 27, 2010 8:17:00 PM

well, the evga support told me to get a new PSU. I guess that's what I'll do. time to cancel my RMA hehehe
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 8:26:54 PM

Yes SneakyNoob this what i also suggest to you to do and what resolts ct1615 reads only he knows.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 8:54:11 PM

were did i post reviews ? i did post my power consuptions from MY UPS. I used the 2d idle links of toms hardware couse in there you see your 240 to dow more energy than the radeon were is your problem really ?
October 27, 2010 8:54:18 PM

now now guys, settle down. you guys were both really helpful to me and I really appreciate it. now can't we all get along? :) 
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 9:02:23 PM

I did a report to moderators couse his behaviur is out of controll and i'm out of here.
a c 235 U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 9:05:41 PM

lol fine by me. you don't like being embarrassed and proved wrong and you get offended when other people post reviews proving you wrong. truly against forum policy.
October 27, 2010 9:21:41 PM

We're done here. Work it out via PM.
a b U Graphics card
October 27, 2010 9:23:38 PM

Im closing this thread, we all need to calm down.
If you cant show youre right thru comunicating, then whats the point?
October 27, 2010 9:52:53 PM

Best answer selected by SneakyNoob.
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