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December 27, 2010 2:28:22 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Sometime in the near future.
Budget Range: around $400 before rebates
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, internet
Parts Not Required: don't need peripherals (monitor, mouse, etc.), power supply, hard drive, dvd drive
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Geeks.com also tends to have cool cases, Amazon
Country of Origin: U.S.
Parts Preferences: none really
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI or Crossfire: Not in the near future
Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024
Additional Comments: would like it to be as quiet as possible. also, will a 500W PSU be enough?


This build is for my brother, who's looking to upgrade his old setup. I'm trying to help him scrounge up parts for a new computer because his old one's always blue screening and glitching and we can't figure out what's wrong. His old GPU is a piece of crap and I think something's wrong with his motherboard. There's nothing all that wrong with his processor (at least as far as we can tell), but he wants a more powerful GPU and figures he should update his CPU to fit.

Hokay, so:

1) CPU: His current processor is an Intel Core 2 Duo E7 200. Is this adequate these days or should he get a new one? Suggestions? (He doesn't do much processor-intensive, but he'll be gaming and runs basic applications). Also a CPU cooler suggestions are welcome.

2) RAM: He currently has 2x1GB of DDR2 RAM. We're trying to be cost effective here (he's 14 years old so he doesn't have all that much saved up), so will he see a big difference going to 4GB of DDR3, or will he be fine getting 2 more 1GB sticks of DDR2? He's not a huge multitasker like me (I currently have 24 tabs open in this window, which isn't that much for me), but we don't want slow/outdated RAM bottlenecking his computer.

3) MOBO: He currently has this little microATX MOBO that has worked fine for his needs but might be the one glitching up his computer... But he'll have to replace it anyway if he's getting a new CPU and/or DDR3 RAM. Suggestions? Again, we're going for as cheap as possible for the performance.. He'll probably try to OC it eventually, but it's not a huge priority, and while stuff like USB 3.0 and SATA 3 would be nice, they're not high on his must-have list, if they're even realistically attainable as far as he's concerned.

4) GPU: He currently has a Radeon HD 4670 that was making these grinding sounds that were painful for me to even hear... Painful like hearing your brain new car getting keyed painful. Anyway he wants a drastically better GPU at this point, though unfortunately he won't have all that much to spend on it since he decided to start almost from scratch. He was hoping to get one around the $150 price range though, maybe even a bit more expensive, if the whole build can still stay under $400.

5) Case: He doesn't want a case that's too expensive, but 1. it needs to fit the mobo, obviously, 2. ventilation and fans/room for fans is a plus, 3. some sort of quality is preferred, and 4. it doesn't need to fit a bajillion drives. He might have 2 3.5" HDDs, whatever GPU you suggest, a cooler if suggested, and 2 DVD drives (1 regular, 1 blueray). I have my beast of a HAF 922. That is NOT what he wants.

OS will probably be Windows 7 x64 Home Premium.

"If you're willing to spend a bit more..." suggestions are welcome (to an extent) because he's so desperate to have a computer that actually works that he might be willing to spend a bit more.

I sort of have an idea of what to suggest to him, but people on here have a habit of suggesting parts I've completely overlooked, so I figured I'd humbly ask advice of TH's infinite wisdom. ^_^

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December 27, 2010 3:11:01 AM

^ The CPU that he has is still a very good one for gaming,...If he is fine with sticking to it, then I would suggest he do that,...

Mobo -
GIGABYTE GA-EP43T-UD3L - DDR3, so that he can reuse the RAM if he changes the CPU/ Mobo in the future,...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM-
Mushkin 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - GTX 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE -
Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
$5 off w/ promo code EMCZNNY27, ends 12/26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What PSU does he have ? Powerful enough for cards like GTX 460?
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December 27, 2010 3:29:31 AM

gkay09 said:
^ The CPU that he has is still a very good one for gaming,...If he is fine with sticking to it, then I would suggest he do that,...

Mobo -
GIGABYTE GA-EP43T-UD3L - DDR3, so that he can reuse the RAM if he changes the CPU/ Mobo in the future,...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM-
Mushkin 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - GTX 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE -
Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
$5 off w/ promo code EMCZNNY27, ends 12/26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What PSU does he have ? Powerful enough for cards like GTX 460?


Sweet, looks pretty awesome. He has some Apevia 500W PSU. Would that be enough, or should he try something like 750W?
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December 27, 2010 3:35:43 AM

^ Any specific numbers on that PSU ? He wont need a 750W PSU for a single GTX 460, a 500-550W HIGH QQUALITY PSU would do,... And I dont think Apevia will be in that list,...
How old is the PSU and try to get the model number,...
If going with new PSU, then this
OCZ Fatality 550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 27, 2010 4:13:53 AM

Hahaha it's an Apevia WIN-500PS... Or should I say FAIL... Hah...
Yeah, it's Apevia, watcha gonna do...

Newegg's selling this 620W Antec for $50 with promo code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and I trust Antec.

Or I found this 600W Thermaltake for about $40... I'm not sure I trust them as much though.. Plus it doesn't have that 80+ certification...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Anyway he also wants more power, GPU-wise; we're thinking a Radeon HD 5830 for $140 after rebate...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-150-...(keywords)#scrollFullInfo

Seemed like a pretty sweet deal to me. What do you think?
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December 27, 2010 4:38:30 AM

^ The Antec is a good one,...

Video card - The GTX 460 has lower power consumption than the 5830, also the one that I linked would perform as good,...
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December 27, 2010 4:54:47 AM

mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
good company. built a PC for my friend a while ago and it worked great.

best bang for the buck on gaming memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
its what i use and let me tell you, it wont let you down.

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Great for overclocking! Only thing is that you might want to buy a better CPU fan and heatsink if you want to do some extreme OC. :) 

video card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... One word. Unstoppable.

Case - the one mentioned by gkay09 or this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Its the one I used for my personal build and it fails to disappoint me.
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December 27, 2010 5:32:57 AM

Lol I remember the Destroyer and the Challenger back from when I was still building my computer...

Alright, alright, I'll talk to him about the GPU, since you guys like your nVidia so much. Lol. I'm sure he would very well enjoy not having to go through all the little inconsistencies with ATI though..
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December 27, 2010 6:58:22 AM

^ Lolz not that we like Nvidia, but at that price range, the GTX 460 is better,...
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