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GTX 460 2GB? Anyone know if its worth it?

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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 12:43:13 AM

it's not unless in SLI
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October 28, 2010 12:45:33 AM

Hmm I always wondered why a 1GB 460 is a huge upgrade over a 768MB 460 yet 2GB over 1GB isn't a huge upgrade. I'm probably missing something.
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October 28, 2010 12:46:57 AM

Metroidman said:
Hmm I always wondered why a 1GB 460 is a huge upgrade over a 768MB 460 yet 2GB over 1GB isn't a huge upgrade. I'm probably missing something.

its not, 1G 460 is 6% faster than 768Mb 460.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 12:51:22 AM

Metroidman said:
Hmm I always wondered why a 1GB 460 is a huge upgrade over a 768MB 460 yet 2GB over 1GB isn't a huge upgrade. I'm probably missing something.


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/156?vs=180
Actually 1 gig vs 768mb is about 10-15%. The thing is, most games dont use more than 1 gig. Also, not only does the 768 has less memory, it also is 192-bit, and proportionately smaller. The 2 gigs really doesnt add anything besides an extra gig of memory, and a fairly useless one at that. Only useful at high resolutions generally. However in any event, id get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Over the 460 1 gig anyway.
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October 28, 2010 12:51:59 AM

cirslevin said:
its not, 1G 460 is 6% faster than 768Mb 460.



Hmm seems strange that everytime on here people always recommend the 1GB one over the 768MB one then.
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October 28, 2010 12:52:48 AM

ares1214 said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/156?vs=180
Actually 1 gig vs 768mb is about 10-15%. The thing is, most games dont use more than 1 gig. Also, not only does the 768 has less memory, it also is 192-bit, and proportionately smaller. The 2 gigs really doesnt add anything besides an extra gig of memory, and a fairly useless one at that. Only useful at high resolutions generally. However in any event, id get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Over the 460 1 gig anyway.



My Mobo only supports SLI though :( 
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 12:53:55 AM

Metroidman said:
My Mobo only supports SLI though :( 


What mobo? Also, thats not necessarily a bad thing. Or you can just wait 2 weeks for the powerful single GPU's to come from AMD.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 12:56:07 AM

The only value in these cards is not their clocks nor their cooling but only in the pcb and the gpu/vram. Beyond that you need to research what is best for your needs, budget, skill, and ability to maintain. Most GTX 460 models have several short comings that hinder their value long term unless in the hands of a skilled modder. ATI is the same way. It does no good to pick up a hot rod of a ATI card only to cook it by not keeping the whole card cool. It is like buying a really fast sports car only to not bother changing the tires and oil.
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October 28, 2010 12:56:14 AM

Metroidman said:
Hmm seems strange that everytime on here people always recommend the 1GB one over the 768MB one then.

I dont, 768Mb version is $30 cheaper than 1G version. I wouldn't buy 1G version.
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October 28, 2010 12:56:25 AM

ares1214 said:
What mobo? Also, thats not necessarily a bad thing. Or you can just wait 2 weeks for the powerful single GPU's to come from AMD.


EVGA X58 SLI

I wasn't thinking of SLIing tomorrow or anything. Was gonna get 1 460 and then 1 later. Can't really pop down $400-$500 for a Graphics Card right now.
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October 28, 2010 1:01:24 AM

cirslevin said:
I dont, 768Mb version is $30 cheaper than 1G version. I wouldn't buy 1G version.
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Colorful/iGame_GTX_460_1_GB/images/perfrel.gif



A small difference now a big difference later when something evetually comes along that maxes the card out while asking for more. The difference isn't just memory but people will be fools and go cheap only to complain at a later date.

Differences besides 256mb of vram. 128k of L2 Cache and roughly 24-32gb worth of bandwidth nor forgetting how important fill rates can be. $30 bucks isn't much to miss unless prices drop or the markup is much more than just a meager $30 on something that is already overpriced.
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October 28, 2010 1:03:57 AM

if 460 768Mb can't handle that "something eventually comes along", I am not sure 1G version can handle it much better.

$30 represent 20% of the price. for 6% performance gain? no deal from me.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:07:23 AM

cirslevin said:
if 460 768Mb can't handle that "something eventually comes along", I am not sure 1G version can handle it much better.

$30 represent 20% of the price. for 6% performance gain? no deal from me.


Its more than that. Either way, unless you can get a 768 for $140, 6850 is the better deal both up and down in price.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:08:43 AM

cirslevin said:
if 460 768Mb can't handle that "something eventually comes along", I am not sure 1G version can handle it much better.

$30 represent 20% of the price. for 6% performance gain? no deal from me.


Sure but 6% can mean the difference in fps shooters ware it counts or flight sims. Ever tried playing one ware fps was below 20fps? Ah the lag from lag grenades in COD.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:17:38 AM

Metroidman said:
EVGA X58 SLI

I wasn't thinking of SLIing tomorrow or anything. Was gonna get 1 460 and then 1 later. Can't really pop down $400-$500 for a Graphics Card right now.


Evga X58 slI boards , DO support crossfire. They just do not promote that fact.
But you can find numerous 3 and 4 5870 crossfire video's at youtube.
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October 28, 2010 1:18:18 AM

notty22 said:
Evga X58 slI boards , DO support crossfire. They just do not promote that fact.
But you can find numerous 3 and 4 5870 crossfire video's at youtube.


True, although EVGA might try to make it a pain in the a$$. But still, very capable.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:23:52 AM

I don't know what he means. They support crossfire perfectly.
There is nothing needed in bios for crossfire to function.
Email evga or do a quick search of their forums, this question is asked and answered often.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:25:04 AM

notty22 said:
I don't know what he means. They support crossfire perfectly.
There is nothing needed in bios for crossfire to function.
Email evga or do a quick search of their forums, this question is asked and answered often.


Oh, trust me, it will be more problematic than usual. EVGA is a Nvidia exclusive, so obviously they wont like AMD much. But like you said, they will run just fine.
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October 28, 2010 1:25:46 AM

problematic like how?
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:27:57 AM

Metroidman said:
problematic like how?


You just might run in to more problems. They are built for Nvidia cards, naturally. But like notty said, they will run fine, just ask for a quick help question if you do run into problems.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:28:10 AM

ares1214 said:
Oh, trust me, it will be more problematic than usual. EVGA is a Nvidia exclusive, so obviously they wont like AMD much. But like you said, they will run just fine.

They run crossfire issue free.
http://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/evga_rele...
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:31:27 AM

notty22 said:
You don't know what your talking about, so stop spreading BS.


Of course i dont ;)  Just keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better. Eyefinity, xfire, just dont be surprised if you run into small inconveniences. If im not making sense, dont worry, but naturally, EVGA supports Nvidia.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:32:09 AM

Im NOT saying there is a chronic compatibility problems, im just saying it is very likely you will see more small problems.
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October 28, 2010 1:33:06 AM

Ok quick Google Searching leads me to it apparently supporting both XFire and SLI. Phew thought I was stuck there. I'm probably go with a 6850 this weekend. If only Microcenter had it already :( 
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October 28, 2010 1:33:21 AM

nvm
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October 28, 2010 1:33:44 AM

Best answer selected by Metroidman.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:34:17 AM

Metroidman said:
Hmm I always wondered why a 1GB 460 is a huge upgrade over a 768MB 460 yet 2GB over 1GB isn't a huge upgrade. I'm probably missing something.


With the 1GB you also get a 256 bit memory bus vs. the 192 bit memory bus on the 768MB model which allows faster transfers to\from memory even when the game is using less than the 756MB of memory where the 2GB version is still a 256 bit bus so only improves speed if the game is using more than 1GB of video memory !
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October 28, 2010 1:34:58 AM

cirslevin said:
nvm



Actually I was only considering Nvidia cards because I didn't think my Mobo supported XFire. I like the fact that the 6000 series need only one power connector.
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October 28, 2010 1:35:53 AM

MC has 6870, $250
frys has 6850 $225

6850 is MUCH cheaper online.
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October 28, 2010 1:39:36 AM

cirslevin said:
MC has 6870, $250
frys has 6850 $225

6850 is MUCH cheaper online.



Don't see it on their website. I'll call them this weekend to check. If they are overpriced in store I'll order on newegg. Microcenter though is usually pretty good at staying competitive with newegg. Bought my i7 920 from there for $199 for months before the i7930 hit
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October 28, 2010 1:44:20 AM

Metroidman said:
Don't see it on their website. I'll call them this weekend to check. If they are overpriced in store I'll order on newegg. Microcenter though is usually pretty good at staying competitive with newegg. Bought my i7 920 from there for $199 for months before the i7930 hit

CPU and MoBo at MC is indeed pretty cheap. but apparently not graphic card... Good luck!
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October 28, 2010 1:46:27 AM

cirslevin said:
CPU and MoBo at MC is indeed pretty cheap. but apparently not graphic card... Good luck!


Yeah I built my whole comp from Microcenter and compared prices with Newegg. They were better or competitive the whole time They have 1GB GTX 460's for $200 so they're not super expensive.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 1:47:43 AM

Metroidman said:
Yeah I built my whole comp from Microcenter and compared prices with Newegg. They were better or competitive the whole time They have 1GB GTX 460's for $200 so they're not super expensive.


Thats the normal price at the egg now...
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October 28, 2010 1:48:24 AM

ares1214 said:
Thats the normal price at the egg now...


Yeah I know. I was just pointing out that Microcenter was competitive
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 2:04:01 AM

Anyways its the older evga 775 boards that functioned with a Nforce Nvidia chipset.
That did not support crossfire.
The x58 all use the same chipset ,as Asus ,gigabyte, intel reference x58 boards. You use intel/microsoft drivers for all pci-e -memory subsystems.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
October 28, 2010 2:46:15 AM

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