NEW I7 RIG UNDER 1500. NEED OPINIONS. BUYING SOON

This is a remake of my previous thread here because i accidentally marked it as solved when it wasn't.
go here to see that previous discussion http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/301535-31-1500-opinions-solved#t2237960

CASE = Lancool PC-K62 - Mid tower
MOBO = ASUS Rampage III Formula
PSU = Kingwin Mach 1 Power ABT-1000MA1S (1000W)
CPU = Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz
CPU COOLER = Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus
RAM = Mushkin Redline Frostbyte 998805 (1 triple 6 gig)
Video Card GPU = MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1GD5/OC 1GB (2X in SLI)

Total = 1347.06
- 60 mail in rebate for video cards
total 1287.06


I have 125 in amazon gift cards from credit card rewards

total 1187.06 WITHOUT RAM (cant find it in stock anywhere at the moment)
Pretty good deal


Standard form.
Approximate Purchase Date: the next 2 weeks to a month
Budget Range: 1500 max trying to keep it a low as possible but maximize performance
System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D animation
/modeling/fx, video editing, image editing, want to game sometimes.
Parts Not Required: optical drives, hard drives
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon or New Egg.
Country of Origin: USA, Cali
Parts Preferences: intel I7
Overclocking: Yes when needed
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe
Monitor Resolution: does not matter
Additional Comments: quiet is good, has to be upgradeable,
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  1. Best advice sense youre not buying immediately. Wait for Sandy Bridge/ Bulldozer.
  2. ^ Some suggestions -

    Mobo - If not overclocking high, then I dont see the need for that board,... I would suggest this one with this combo -
    i7 + ASUS Sabertooth X58
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.566445

    RAM - For such tasks, IMO more the better,... I would suggest 12 GB kit for such a build,...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226100

    PSU - Why do you need a 1KW PSU ?? IMO a high quality 750W should do, can easily power 2x 460s and will still have some headroom left...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPSU-750HX-Professional-Certified-compatible/dp/B0029F21LK/ref=pd_cp_e_3
  3. gkay09 said:
    ^ Some suggestions -

    Mobo - If not overclocking high, then I dont see the need for that board,... I would suggest this one with this combo -
    i7 + ASUS Sabertooth X58
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.566445

    RAM - For such tasks, IMO more the better,... I would suggest 12 GB kit for such a build,...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226100

    PSU - Why do you need a 1KW PSU ?? IMO a high quality 750W should do, can easily power 2x 460s and will still have some headroom left...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPSU-750HX-Professional-Certified-compatible/dp/B0029F21LK/ref=pd_cp_e_3



    You are right on the 1kw psu. I like to overkill on psu but 1kw is way way overkill. http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine recommends 650 with my proposed setup which is more then what i will probably have so 750-850 should be more then enough.

    But at 139 bucks, with tons of stellar reviews and my local computer shops recommendation, this PSU is very attractive even though its serious overkill. I'm going to look into other psu's that may save me some money.

    I've done extensive review of all the asus mobos and the formula is pretty dang nice. I have herd the BCLK issue but that was a fluke
    see here
    http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/830442-asus-rampage-iii-formula-review-owners-4.html
    unless you have some other facts your basing the low overclock comment on I must beg to differ.
    The sabertooth is a viable option but i am a computer tweaker. (computer tech) So i like the extra options and capabilities but i most likely will not use the third pci-e slot. I like the look of the formula much better. I think I just have to go with the formula because of its fantastic reviews, very few legitimate problems, its pretty lol, and extra tweeking options and a little extra expandability.

    I am kinda stuck on the 12gig or SLI conundrum. I guess i could do both but i would most likely break the 1500 mark. I could go for the 12 gig then get another 460 when the price drops which could be a while since I'm already getting a 30 rebate.

    I just stumbled on sandy bridge. This might throw a wrench in the whole thing! I knew about gulftown but i'm going to need to research sandy bridge more. It could be THE determining factor.
  4. I dunno but having 2 x 768mb GTX 460's could save you enough $$ to get that extra 6 gigs of ram.
    Im not sure about the effect on editing, but in games the difference between 2 x 768 and 2x 1gig is around 2-3% in terms of FPS..... is it worth the extra $50-60 that could be spent on ur 'job' side of the PC.

    I dont know but 33 to 34 fps is certainly not worth $50 for me, especially as youll be upgrading to a new card(s) in 2-6 years time either way (depends on how much ur industry progresses haha, if it progresses heaps ull prolly have good increases in salary if not uhhh thisll do anyways)
  5. ^^ Well I liked the 5 years warranty that the Sabertooth offers,...Obviously for its price range, overclocking would be kind of limited, but IMO it offers more for the money when compared to the other boards,...
    Here are some reviews of that board -
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-tuf-sabertooth-x58-review/
    http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1457/1/
    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/asus_x58_sabertooth_review/1
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2010/11/18/asus-sabertooth-x58-review/1
  6. vibhas said:
    I dunno but having 2 x 768mb GTX 460's could save you enough $$ to get that extra 6 gigs of ram.
    Im not sure about the effect on editing, but in games the difference between 2 x 768 and 2x 1gig is around 2-3% in terms of FPS..... is it worth the extra $50-60 that could be spent on ur 'job' side of the PC.

    I dont know but 33 to 34 fps is certainly not worth $50 for me, especially as youll be upgrading to a new card(s) in 2-6 years time either way (depends on how much ur industry progresses haha, if it progresses heaps ull prolly have good increases in salary if not uhhh thisll do anyways)


    LOL. For some reason i got a kick out of your post. Im not working in the animation industry at the moment. If i was still i wouldn't give budget a thought. In fact my company would probably buy me something. I used to make video games and money was no issue. Then i got laid off along with 95% of the company when we lost Xavier and Blizzard bought Activision, bla bla bla..... now i own my own tech support and media production buisness which is owned and operated by me so money isn't really flowing like it used to be. I make more money selling comcast as a side job lol, but i don't advertise my services or anything yet since I have very little free time as it is with a buisness, another job, a masters and web buisness. Anyway enough about me

    I know that 3d programs do benefit from more vram but only for certain tasks. Other then that i believe RAM is more useful for everything else. I'm thinking I should go with 12 gigs but at the same time it seems like this would be a crazy overkill. Maybe it would be a more useful overkill the SLI though if i'm not going to be a serious serious gamer. I know at this point i want to play SC2 a lot but other then that I really haven't played many games...... HMMMMMMM... lol i have a 7800gt just sitting here that i could use while waiting for the 580 price to fall.

    SANDY BRIDGE HAS ME RECONSIDERING MY BUILD AT THE MOMENT. I am seeing some stuff saying its going to be an 1156 socket. But many other are saying socket 2011. 1156 does not make a bit of sense to me but its bed time for now. Also I guess sandy bridge its going to be a big deal but like gulftown my guess is its going to be absurdly expensive and far out of reach. This brings me to another thought; will Bloomfield and Gulftown fall dramatically in price with the release of sandy bridge?
  7. I cant see the hdd mentioned in the thread, just thought i would point it out. I would recomend a ssd for your needs or 2 larger drivews in raid 0, or both :)

    somthing maybe you should factor into your costs

    hope it all goes well


    ignor me i have just seen hard drives in the not needed section
  8. Sandy Bridge isnt going to made on the 1156 socket but the 1155 socket.
    Getting aroused by my post is flattering i guess =)
    Anyways getting laid off and stuff, and as selling comcast is your main income i d suggest... definitely to get those 768 mbers.

    Maybe cutting the budget in 1/2 is good too haha.
    In case comcast decides to... somehow lay you offs!
  9. vibhas said:
    Sandy Bridge isnt going to made on the 1156 socket but the 1155 socket.
    Getting aroused by my post is flattering i guess =)
    Anyways getting laid off and stuff, and as selling comcast is your main income i d suggest... definitely to get those 768 mbers.


    Where are you getting the 1155 info???? I am considering the 768 in order to save a little for the extra ram. Im not really fond of the idea though.

    vibhas said:
    Maybe cutting the budget in 1/2 is good too haha.
    In case comcast decides to... somehow lay you offs!

    Yeh.... And maybe i should buy a pogo stick to replace my car just in case ;)
  10. Quote:
    rigs for this amount of money should have a SSD with them....
    if not then why so much..?



    lol. Not sure how to respond to this other then.... Thats how much components like this cost. Unless you have some deep discount place to buy which your not sharing.

    If i go ssd i'm going to go way way over the 1500 mark. Or i'd have to sacrifice ram and a video card. To me, buying an ssd drive would be like buying a led tv. Youl pay a ton of money for something that is nice but will be half the price in a few months. I'll use mechanical till ssd's hit bottom dollar in 2011.
    lol. i'll throw this 120 laptop drive in there and pretend its an ssd and save a boatload of cash lol. Its a joke its a joke dont flame me.
  11. Unless you simply must have this system up /running with one week, I'd wait for Sandybridge as well.....a nice performance jump compared to identically clocked current i5 processors if preliminary benchmarks are to be believed, which, I do....
  12. mdd1963 said:
    Unless you simply must have this system up /running with one week, I'd wait for Sandybridge as well.....a nice performance jump compared to identically clocked current i5 processors if preliminary benchmarks are to be believed, which, I do....


    The main reason for the rush is I would love to get the wright off in this year for taxes. It would be like saving at least 200 maybe more.
    sandy bridge does sound like a serious upgrade but i'm almost certain it will be way out of my reach in price. its a tough decision because i could change my mobo to fit it as a future upgrade though. hmmm. decisions decisions.
    damn you Intel!
  13. you know what guys. I think i have to wait to see what sandy bridge is all about. It sounds like i may actually be able to save some money by waiting and create a machine with a lot more upgrade potential. It may not be a super performance boost but i think sandy bridge is going to be a big big change in enthusiast builds. It sux i wont get the write off this year but i think it will be worth waiting
  14. crap i think i changed my mind again. ugg. Many people are saying 1366 is going to beat out SB at least till socket 2011. I have a feeling the first SB on 1155 will be like the first core 2's. the progression was quick and dirty and many people got left in the dust. The 1366 seems to be at the end of a run and capable of a lot.
  15. For hard drives, you might consider 2-3 Samsung F4 320 gig drives for a RAID 0 array. The speed on them is insane, and the total cost for 3 drives is around 130.00.
  16. so what do you guys think? 1366 or wait? tomorrow = order day if im going to go for it. Do you guys think i'd be safe buying some components like case, video cards, psu since they would most likely work even if i have another change of heart? I guess i could buy and not open then just return if i decide to go the other way once SB drops.
  17. Quote:
    I roll like this:
    boot (OS) - OCZ Technology 60 GB Vertex 2 Series SATA II
    file and storage - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB


    I like the sound of this but i'll probably do 2 500s since the stuff i do takes a lot of space. I will be doing drives as soon as SSD drive plummet in price which almost everyone says they will..... but they have been saying that for over a year now.....
  18. no one has this ram is stock.... Looks like i may get all the other parts and have to wait for my ram :(
    I got an email back from mushkin sales saying
    "Sorry Dylan, I wish I could sell this to directly. We do not have the chips to fulfill the higher performance DDR3 memory. We, along with our competitors are having difficulty with the suppliers getting the chips.

    Please stayed tuned and check with us or NewEgg after the first week of the new year. – Hopefully we will be able to take care of you then!"

    my mobo is out of stock on amazon and i dont want to pay tax on it so i'll have to wait for that too. So\\//..//\\
  19. Quote:
    what motherboard and RAM, what you listed in the beginning.?
    RAM = Mushkin Redline Frostbyte 998805 (1 triple 6 gig)
    MOBO = ASUS Rampage III Formula



    Thats them.Probably going to do 12 gigs now though.... If i got the dough
  20. Quote:
    ASUS Rampage III Formula Motherboard - Intel X58, LGA 1366, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, CrossFire Ready, SLI Ready, Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, Firewire, USB 3.0, SATA 6BG/s, RAID
    $299.99
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6666334&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE

    CODE: REDLINE 998805 DDR3 UDIMM PC3-12
    Price: $230.98
    http://www.zoomtek.com/redline-998805-ddr3-udimm-pc3-12800-6-8-6-24-1-65v-frostbyte-6gb.html


    Thank you
  21. Quote:
    12GB for 3D animation, I understand that..
    are you in the US.?


    yes.
    For now i have given up on getting my write off this year. At this moment i feel like i should see what SB does to the market. I dont plan on going with SB unless people say its the best thing ever since i feel its going to be the first generation of the next thing. I like to get the final thing at the end of a generation. This is why i'm still running....... dont laugh ...... a Pentium 4 in the machine being replaced. It still is a good machine for many tasks but its at its limit as far as upgrades and overclock. Believe it or not i can still animate with it as long as the poly count is low and i use very few view enhancements.
  22. who knows. i might be able to do it all if i wait just a few weeks
    Im going to throw the 1500 in savings till then
  23. wow! have you guys seen the new sabertooth for sandy bridge. CRAZY LOOKING MOBO
    http://techreport.com/articles.x/19982
  24. Quote:
    just don't decide and gamble with it....
    double or nothing odds....;)

    lol. i done my share of gambling. I know the remorse of loss, and well...... thats about it lol
    but think of the computer i could get then ;)

    I would probably go mac pro then to be honest. Still couldn't afford the on i want though. I love my mac book pro except it eats batteries like nothing
  25. Is anyone concerned that the new sandy bridge processor does not support direct X 11???
    Is it pretty much just games that use the newest direct X? Im pretty sure maya is still DX9 and some 10. It appears MAX is using 11 in some cases though. Its probably not a huge deal but it could be an indication of the intended lifespan of this new processor.
  26. Quote:
    it's all about the gfx card with that anyways ain't it.?


    Yeh. For sure. At least 1 supplemental gfx card is necessary for the 3D apps (preferably a quadro but....). Just seems odd that they wouldn't make the gpu in the new SB processor dx11 capable. Must be some kind of hardware limitation.
    In the comparisons i'm starting to see the SB 2600k outperform the 950 across the board. The 2600k outperfoms the 980X in many cases actually. I don't like the idea of settling for the first of a new generation of a consumer model, but if its better then the 1366 already and there is no obvious deal breaking limitations it looks like i may be going SB and sacrificing a video card in order to get an SSD. The price for SB and 1366 are very close and surprisingly SB actually seems to be cheaper. My hope is that SB will make a one video card set up adequate for my needs until i feel like upgrading (i have very little animation work slated for the next 6 months) and I know ssd will give me an overall performance boost in the tasks i will be doing for at least the next 6 mo(batch image processing, video editing, video conversion/rendering).
    My decisions will become more clear after i start seeing some real prices on the new p67 mobos, SB processors, and ram.
  27. im liking this mobo the best so far as a SB build platform
    GA-P67A-UD7
    Price is a bit scary sitting at 314 to near 400 right now. Hopefully it will settle near the 300 end of the range.

    I also like the Maximus IV Extreme but there isn't much info out there on it yet. Asus has it on their site and the stats look nice. Has way more then i need though.
  28. im getting real close to pulling the trigger on the 1366 rig. Found some new info about SB that is a deal breaker for me.
    there are 2 typed of mobos for 1155 (P and H). the p is for "performance" and this is the board you need to get if you want to oc your SB K series. The deal-breaker is that the P mobo disables the cpu's integrated gpu so that you can use a separate graphics card thus eliminating most of the performance enhancements i was getting all excited about (video encode speeds and image processing) I THINK. I'm still trying to find some clarification on this but if its true then I'm going 1366 for sure since SB mobos seem like they are going to take a few months to mature.
    There is talk of a Z68 chip set that will be a P and H hybrid but i still think that use of a separate gpu will disable the cpu's gpu and rob it of most or all of its performance enhancements. this could be a fatal flaw with SB in my opinion
  29. ALRIGHT.
    ordered
    CASE = LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 $118
    CPU = Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield $289
    GPU's = 2X MSI N460GTX CYCLONE $418
    PSU = COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W $199

    STILL TO ORDER
    CPU COOLER = Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus $25
    RAM = Mushkin Enhanced Redline Frostbyte 998805 (12GB) $198
    MOBO = ASUS Rampage III Formula $299 (waiting for some kind of sale)

    MAYBE
    SSD = Crucial RealSSD C300 - Solid state drive - 64 GB $134

    I have a quick newb to SLI question...
    I have duel monitors. Does SLI work good with duel monitors? How do i hook up the monitors (both to one card)?
  30. Quote:
    I roll like this:
    boot (OS) - OCZ Technology 60 GB Vertex 2 Series SATA II
    file and storage - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB


    Is 60 gb enough to run win 7 64 ultimate and have some room left for a few choice progs?
  31. ordered
    cpu cooler = Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus ($25.74)
    RAM = Mushkin Enhanced Redline Frostbyte 12gb ($218.05)

    ALL THATS LEFT IS MOBO AND SSD IF I CHOOSE. Probably going to wait on the ssd until i find a smoking deal.

    Got the Case. seriously fast shipping as always with newegg. It looks real nice. Kinda bummed about no external sata or 1394 but i already new that this was the case (no pun intended). Its heavy! 36lbs i think!

    total build cost
    289 =cpu
    118 =case
    418 =gpu's
    199 = psu
    25.74 = cpu cooler
    218.05 = ram
    299 = mobo
    _____
    1566.79
    -100 amazon gift cards
    -50 statement credit for purchasing with amazon credit card
    ______
    1416.79

    o yeh. I went 1000w gold psu and SLI 460 1gb and 12gb ram. ITS GOING TO BE A BEAST! solitaire is going to work so good! :bounce:
  32. WOH WOH WOH!!!!! I JUST SAW A SB 2600K HITTING 5.4GHZ ON AIR ON YOUTUBE!!!!!!! DID I MAKE A BIG MISTAKE HERE!!!!
  33. Quote:
    that's a good chip the i5-2600K, I just did a build for somebody using it..


    Sticking with 1366
    Switched from SLI 460's to a single 570 because SLI is not supported by Adobe or my animation apps (maya, MAX, Motion Builder)
    I now have
    CPU i7 950 Batch 3025a866
    Cpu cooler
    Case
    Psu
    in my possession

    Sending back video cards.
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