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October 28, 2010 4:22:33 PM

tell me guys whether ATI 5770 or 5830 can run all current games with high resolution or medium resolution? And what is its future, I mean would it be fairly good to last for 1-2 years in gaming sector especially 5770

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October 28, 2010 4:26:34 PM

For the same price as the HD5830 there is now the HD6850 which is a much better card. If you want a card that will last you a couple of years at high resolutions it's what you should be looking at.
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October 30, 2010 12:20:39 PM

jyjjy said:
For the same price as the HD5830 there is now the HD6850 which is a much better card. If you want a card that will last you a couple of years at high resolutions it's what you should be looking at.


please tell me something about the performance of5770
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October 30, 2010 9:33:08 PM

you could also look at the gtx460. In my part of the world a hd5850 has come down to only $10 more than the gtx460 which would be a good deal and would run all games very well.
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October 30, 2010 10:19:49 PM

jyjjy said:
The HD5770 is great for low resolutions, good for 1680x1050 and acceptable but considered a bit weak for 1920x1080.
For the relative performance of these cards at various resolutions just look at this;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6850/2...


It is unfortunate that they did not use x2 models in that - it would have been interesting to see how cards like the 4870 x2 fare against newer series cards.
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October 31, 2010 2:56:43 AM

It was on there until recently. I guess they can't keep every card on the list forever or it would be huge. For reference though it would be basically equal to the HD6870.
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October 31, 2010 4:09:15 AM

i highly recommend a 6850...not only is it faster then the ATI 5830 it uses a little less power..and it well receive driver enhancements that the 5000 series wont..just like the 4 series hasn't been getting any driver enhancements sense the 5000 series came out
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October 31, 2010 8:24:11 AM

can the 6850 run on a 500w PSU efficiently?
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October 31, 2010 8:47:48 AM

500w should easily cover an HD6870 if it is of at least average quality. There are a lot of very poor power supplies out there however so tell us the brand/model of the PSU you are talking about.
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October 31, 2010 11:16:30 AM

+1 to hd6850. faster tesselation and the best bang for ur buck right now.
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November 1, 2010 3:03:57 PM

500w should easily cover an HD6870 if it is of at least average quality. There are a lot of very poor power supplies out there however so tell us the brand/model of the PSU you are talking about.[/quotemsg]

well Iam using a cooler master extreme

please use this link for specifications

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=57
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November 2, 2010 6:02:21 AM

Not a very good power supply but I think it should handle the card.
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November 3, 2010 8:39:32 AM

jyjjy said:
Not a very good power supply but I think it should handle the card.


what do you recommend then
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November 3, 2010 9:23:52 AM

Talking about tessalation, who is better in this? The 6850/6870 or still the GTX460?
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November 3, 2010 10:02:26 AM

sri_krishna said:
what do you recommend then

If you already have that PSU then give it a try, it will probably be ok. If you are talking about a new PSU then the best brands are Corsair, Antec and Seasonic. In general you at least want a PSU with active PFC. Units with a voltage switch like on the back of that Coolermaster unit are passive which means they are cheap and outdated. Another thing to look for is an efficiency rating of 80+.

hell_storm2004 said:
Talking about tessalation, who is better in this? The 6850/6870 or still the GTX460?
In Unigine I believe the Nvidia cards still have an advantage over comparable AMD cards but the gap is significantly smaller.
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November 3, 2010 10:05:47 AM

Since you say the margin is smaller, is it still a factor to sway towards the nVidia side, or is the difference too small to be considered?
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November 3, 2010 11:06:41 AM

You may find that tessalation doesn't drastically improve until ATI releases the 7xxx series. This should be when they do a complete overhaul of their architecture. The 6xxx was just a improvment over the 5xxx not a complete architecture change.
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November 3, 2010 11:24:21 AM

Here are some numbers;
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
On a second look the performance difference of the GTX 460 vs HD6850 seems to stay the same whether tessellation is on or off but the GTX 470 does seem to have a distinct advantage with tessellation enabled compared to the HD6870.
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November 4, 2010 8:48:15 AM

The GTX 460 has a width of dual slot so does it mean I need to have two slots to run it?
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November 4, 2010 8:59:47 AM

If you mean a single slot cooler there are single slot HD5770s by both XFX and Powercolor. That's the best you are going to do.
If you mean a card that uses a single slot on the motherboard they all do, some just have a cooler that covers the slot below the PCIE x16 slot.
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November 5, 2010 10:13:54 AM

Ok, now after knowing about the cards I just wanted to ask whether a 18.5 inch monitor would give me full resolution that that the cards are capable of because Iam currently using it with 1366 x 768.
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November 5, 2010 11:11:43 AM

That resolution is pretty low by today's standards. An HD5770 is the most I would recommend for it. Anything more powerful will be wasted until you upgrade your monitor. Slightly cheaper cards like the HD4850, HD5750, GTS 250 and GTS 450 will also do very well at that resolution.
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November 5, 2010 4:14:52 PM

jyjjy said:
That resolution is pretty low by today's standards. An HD5770 is the most I would recommend for it. Anything more powerful will be wasted until you upgrade your monitor. Slightly cheaper cards like the HD4850, HD5750, GTS 250 and GTS 450 will also do very well at that resolution.


well the recommended resolution is 1366 x 768 , does this means it cannot handle higher resolutions? I thought it depends upon the graphics card on which resolution you want . Iam currently using an integrated graphics card which seems to have it's max resolution as 1366 x 768.

Please analyse the specs of the product and give an answer
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/sg/en/ho/WF06b/382087-38...

also Iwant to know whether 5770 is the best for that resolution
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November 6, 2010 7:45:09 AM

Yes, LCDs have a native resolution. This represents the actual number of physical pixels in the display and resolutions higher or lower can only possibly be achieved through up or downscaling and neither will look as good as the native resolution. Yours is 1366x786 so that is what you should use. At that resolution an HD5770 will be able to max out the settings on almost all current games and play smoothly. You can look at benchmarks to get an idea but you will rarely find your resolution used. You will find 1280x1024 used often though and that resolution is approximately 20% higher than yours so adjust accordingly.
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November 6, 2010 9:29:48 AM

Basically it depends of the CPU watts consumption and other system components you can easily overclock HD5770 1Gbyte to 950Mhz 1350Mhz GDDR5 it will give you up to 367 FPS furmark 1.8 ratted at 1024x768 if your cpu runs at 3.30Ghz even to 1.0 pci-e with 2.0 pci-e you get will better results but have in mind a Q6600 Quad overclocked at that frequency and this card can easily brake 400 watts leaving less room for the rest of your system.

You PSU in the worst case scenario after overclock if can’t handle the HD5770 extra power demands with a 2 Molex to pci-e 6pin connector you can solve that problem. Sooner or later you will need to get a better PSU so this is the official ATI-AMD site
with the certificated PSUs:
http://support.amd.com/us/certified/power-supplies/Page...

Also this the Official site of ATI-AMD for the certificated CF PSUs:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/products/certified/Pages/c...

You can click on details and see what chips are tested by them in eatch PSU. The Ati Radeon chip is developed by AMD after these 2 corporations merged are not 3rd party links, in case some people ignore that fact.

I hope I helped.
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November 6, 2010 10:21:12 AM

Ok , I had to go with the 5770 atlast because of the monitor but still 5770 is a good choice. Finally just have to get a new PSU that can let me use 5770 or a crossfire of it in future. Any product that you guys would like to suggest.
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November 6, 2010 10:27:17 AM

The Gigabyte HD5770 has in the packet and the 2 Molex to pci-e connector so it will run for sure in your system even if you overclock.

This is the resolts of the Heaven Benchmark v2.0:
FPS: 26.7
Scores: 673
Min FPS: 6.4
Max FPS: 75.1

Hardware
Binary: Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1500 Release Mar 7 2010
Operating system:Windows Vista (build 6002, Service Pack 2) 64bit
CPU model:Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz
CPU flags: 3302MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 HTT
GPU model: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series 8.14.01.6150 1024Mb

Settings
Render: direct3d11
Mode: 1280x1024 fullscreen
Shaders: high
Textures: high
Filter: trilinear
Anisotropy: 4x
Occlusion: enabled
Refraction: enabled
Volumetric: enabled
Replication: disabled
Tessellation: normal

Overclocked it stands pretty well at 1280x1024 the Temrature is the only issue you will have after this i'm getting 60 C so far CF will blow me up In furmark 1.8 and this is my major problem.

Also because the most people don’t understand the watts consumption is depend on the system usage I put Prime95 64 bits to use 6Gbytes memory this time and the result was 441 watts. I can Put 8Gbytes to be used and this will raise allot more the systems consumption:


See it full 1280x1024 to: http://admins.bnb.gr/~giatrakis/prime-torture-6Gb.jpg

I can burn a dvd on the fly while I’m doing all these and this will raise the consumption allot more but the most people they don’t have 8 GBytes ram or the equipment to know it, you can read it under the task manager

I hope i have fully covereded all your issues.


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November 6, 2010 6:47:35 PM

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I put Prime95 64 bits to use 6Gbytes memory this time and the result was 441 watts.
How exactly are you getting these power usage figures?
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November 6, 2010 7:07:48 PM

I have my computer in the ups and it’s from power pannel basically it calculates also how many time can the battery hold the pc on and is changing dynamically while the watts go up because of raid 0 I need the ups I can’t afford to lose power. Also I have polymeter (how is written in English I don’t know) can calculate the watts if I plug the 2 pins in a wire.

PS: all the games are at 32 bits and above 4 Gbytes can't use this is why i didn't post something like that above 4 Gbytes i did now for you to see it.
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November 6, 2010 8:03:15 PM

Get a MSI GTX 460 1gb Cyclone. They have good cooling and overclocking capabiltys. When and if you overclock it, it can become better than a stock 5850! It also has a good price tag and will fit in smaller PC cases, so if you have a micro atx it is a good choice.
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November 7, 2010 1:55:32 AM

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The Gigabyte HD5770 has in the packet and the 2 Molex to pci-e connector so it will run for sure in your system even if you overclock.

I can burn a dvd on the fly while I’m doing all these and this will raise the consumption allot more but the most people they don’t have 8 GBytes ram or the equipment to know it, you can read it under the task manager

I hope i have fully covereded all your issues.


Thanks for providing all that analysis . By the way how much a card can be stressed with furmark 1.8. Can it be stress upto 100%.
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November 7, 2010 7:30:56 AM

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I have my computer in the ups and it’s from power pannel basically it calculates also how many time can the battery hold the pc on and is changing dynamically while the watts go up because of raid 0 I need the ups I can’t afford to lose power. Also I have polymeter (how is written in English I don’t know) can calculate the watts if I plug the 2 pins in a wire.

This is how much power is going into the computer, not how much power the PSU is delivering to the rest of the system. Power supplies are rated for output power and the efficiency of the PSU needs to be taken into account.
Also using programs that specifically push the cpu/video card to their highest power consumption don't have much bearing on the amount of power that might be used during normal operation.
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November 7, 2010 8:07:27 AM

My PSU is 650watts bronze 80.

Look is very simple i did overclocked my Q6600 to 3.30 (HD5770 only in there plays without a problem after the overclock) and I’ve seen the needs to brake the 450 watts for everything I do I can see the watts to go up and down, I removed my Monitor from the UPS in order to get only the power consumption from my actions the possibility that amount to be needed in the 12v trail in some games is big more or less the data you see in my posts are 100% reliable.

After the testing in Furmark 1.8 extreme on I got more than 70 C at night!! the possibility such a heat to be created in some games CF 5770 is out of question i have hopes to the new 32nm GPUs to came out with 32 nm GDDR for CF.

This is done after Op requested Settings Formark 1.8 extrem burning on, Prime95 2 Gbytes (assuming a game is using 2 Gbytes of ram, the op has 4 Gbytes)

Full view at http://admins.bnb.gr/~giatrakis/Prime95-torture-2Gbytes...
The watts are lower by that move but the Temprature is above 70 C with the fan (stock fan) at 100% noise level very high...
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November 17, 2010 6:12:52 AM

Best answer selected by sri_krishna.
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November 17, 2010 10:07:03 AM

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