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First Time Gaming Build, Looking for Compatability, Please Help

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December 28, 2010 4:35:46 AM

Trying to get all the pieces together for my first build for a computer. I've got a real pile of junk right now and its frustrating to use (its currently freezing as I type because of the smilies moving too much)... Not sure if what I have listed works together with all the components. I plan on getting a second video card to SLI, but not needed immediately. I decided to go the AMD cheap way, hopefully performance wise I'm not suffering. Questions I have...

1) Will everything work together?
2) Will the cards fit in my case? (I'm not good with tools, so modding a case is out of the question).
3) Does the PSU support and give enough power for what I want/need?
4) Is there anyway to improve performance without adding cost?

I used Newegg for most of this stuff, but I'm open to other reliable sites. For instance, I saw the HDD on amazon for $10 cheaper so I might get it from there instead.

And now for the list:
Optical Drive
LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive Black SATA - $15.99

Case
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $54.99

Hard Drive
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" - $69.99

Motherboard
ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD - $89.99

Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB - $249.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card

PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W - $89.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate

Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - $94.99

CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W - $269.99

Subtotal $935.92
Total: $895.92 after rebates and free shipping on all parts

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December 28, 2010 4:45:39 AM

For your questions -
1) No SLI will not work with that board - Only Crossfire support,... If you want SLI, then you would have to get Nvidia 980 chipset boards(these are older though, but will support X6 CPUs but no SATA 6GB/s or USB3.0)

2) Yes, the card will fit,...

3) Yes, the EA 750 is a good one and should do fine,...

4) Frankly IMO 1100T is not worth it($40 more than the 1090T for just 100MHz increase)

And you should know that Intel is going to launch newer CPUs by Jan 5th,... So you might want to check those out,... Might push AMD to lower the prices,...
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December 28, 2010 4:53:46 AM

Good things I asked because this could've been terrible to find out later. I can change to the 1090T, because I won't notice the difference anyway. Good thing the card will fit. I'm kind of short on time because the main-in rebate offers expire on the 31st, so I was kind of hoping to get the order in before then.

So now a new question...

1) What do you suggest as far a motherboard then? (i am looking for atleast USB3.0 support).
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December 28, 2010 5:08:48 AM

^ Any specific reason to stick with Nvidia ?? If you want SLI, then IMO Intel is the way to go as they have better SLI boards, but IMO Crossfire would offer better value as you get cheaper Crossfire boards, also ATI cards cost less,...
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December 28, 2010 5:15:07 AM

Only thought the Nvidia cards were better...if there is a comparable ATI card, I can definitely go with that instead. Any suggestions?
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December 28, 2010 5:36:20 AM

HD 6870s are pretty good,...
For what will the PC be mainly use ?
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December 28, 2010 6:23:28 AM

^ For such usage, frankly I dont see the need for a 6-Core CPU,... The X4 955/ 965 would very well suit for you needs, anyways when you do more CPU intensive tasks, you can upgrade to the 6-Core CPUs no problem,...
CPU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mobo - Same ASRock 870 Extreme - Offers x8x8 Crossfire with SATA 6GB/s and USB3.0

GPU - XFX HD 6870 which you have chosen,...

RAM - 8GB will have little effect for what you do,...
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December 28, 2010 1:34:18 PM

I should probably also mention that the computer I am using right now is 10 years old...i'm not very good at buying new things, I usually wait until I get super frustrated and feel the NEED to buy new. The only things I have changed in my current POS is the hard drive (which I bought 4 years ago), RAM, and a new case fan. Since it's a Dell, it's been hard trying to figure out how I'm going to upgrade it, hence the reason I'm attempting to build my own; I feel if I do this now, in the future for upgrading it'll be much simpler.
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December 29, 2010 2:38:21 AM

^ Hmmm,... then I feel it is safe to go overboard when you do it new right ?? So that it will last you long,...
Here is a build,...
CPU - 1090T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mobo + OS
Gigabyte 890GX + Win 7 - The reason why I chose Gigabyte is that it has a better warranty, which is good if you will be having the PC for a long time,...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|20-226-099^20-226-099-TS,20-231-416^20-231-416-TS,20-231-314^20-231-314-TS

CASE - The Challenger is fine, but also look into HAF 912, Antec 300 Illusion, NZXT Gamma...

PSU - It is a good deal on the EA 750 - Can easily handle 2x HD 6870s

HDD - Cheaper at amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...
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December 29, 2010 3:05:05 AM

I'm taking your suggestions and working with them, i'm going with the 1090T, but found this deal for a motherboard as well...
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard + Phenom 1090T
Do you think the ASUS is a better board than the gigabyte? They both have a 3 year warranty. I saw that the ASUS can have two PCI running at x16...does that mean better performance for Crossfire?

Decided to stick with the Ripjaw Ram since it was in your pick of 3.

I'm going to stick with the challenger, because i watched a video on the HAF 912 and even though it's easy, I'd have to remove parts to have the video card fit, and I'd rather not do that.

And i'll probably just get the HDD from newegg only to keep everything coming from the same place, and I've heard really good things about Newegg's customer service, so if it arrives DOA I shouldn't have a problem getting a new one.

As far as the OS...I am a teacher, but unfortunately at a private school that's not listed on their website. I'm wondering if I can still get the teacher discount.

Thank you very much for all the suggestions, I feel I've actually upgraded and improved my system and at the final total I'm at $857.84 after rebates. Add another $100 or so for the OS, I'm still under $1000. Now I can even get a monitor (any suggestions on that since you've been helping me out so much as it is).
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December 29, 2010 3:17:51 AM

^ That is an old chipset, and doesn't have USB3.0 and SATA 6GB/s, which will be useful as you will be keeping the PC for a long time,...
The 890FX is the newer chipset with same features as the 790FX along with SATA 6GB/s and USB 3.0,...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Frankly you will notice very little difference between the cards running 2 x8x8 vs x16x16,...

LCD - A very good deal on a very good monitor -
Samsung BX2450 24" 2ms LED BackLight LCD
Check out w/ $50 promo code EMCZNNT54, ends 1/1
After coupon - ~$200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 29, 2010 3:36:49 AM

Swapped out for the 890FX, bringing total after rebates to 899.93.

Although I am a HUGE fan of samsung TV's (which prob translates to the monitors as well) it's a little out of my price range...I'm looking for something around $100-$150. Samsung would be great, 24" might be a little much, 21-23" would prob be fine.
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December 29, 2010 5:29:04 PM

Been doing even more research, and found that it's a good idea to use a modular power supply. Brings up 2 questions...

1) Is the power supply I picked modular?
2) If it says it's i7, i5, i3 compatible, does it mean I can still use it with my AMD cpu?
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December 29, 2010 7:37:56 PM

Running out of time and looking for responses... so here's my final build, i'm going to be purchase by the end of the day, so if you have any last minute suggestions (to lower price, without lowering performance) they will be gladly taken, otherwise, I'm hoping this is the best system my money can buy.


Optical Drive
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA - $15.99

Case
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $69.99

Hard Drive
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" - $69.99

Video Card
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 - $239.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card

PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W - $89.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate

Memory

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $109.99 $15.00 Main-In Rebate

Combo CPU and Motherboard
Combo CPU and Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor
ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - $378.99

Subtotal $974.93
Total: $919.93 after rebates and free shipping on all parts
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