Generally how long till the MSI Hawk version of 6850?

[Metroidman]

So I was going to order my 6850 today but I've been told by a few people to wait for an MSI Hawk version of it that should be out soon and will be overclockable to much greater lengths than the current 6850's. So I'm just wondering how long does it generally take for it to come out? Is it really that much better?

 

[varis]

I'm wondering the same - how long until we have versions of 6850 with "mature cooling"? Weeks, months?

There is already the 2-fan version from Gigabyte available which might be quiet?