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hello friends ! recently i build a new system for mainly gaming purpose.
since i was on a budget i decided to go the Amd way.

Amd x4 635 2.9Ghz
Msi 880gma-e41
Kingston 4 Gb ddr3 1333Mhz
xfx Ati radeon 5770 1Gb
Coolermaster Gx550 PSU
Coolermaster Hyper TX3 Cpu cooler
CM elite 310 Case

Now i tested the system with old games like Halo2,Assassin Creed,Hitman Blood money and got some respectable fps.(on max settings)
On Far Cry 2 i got like 40+ Fps.
3dmark06=around 14000
But when i started Playing GTA IV the performance was not even continous 20+ frames. I don't know why the performance is so low.I run the games on 1024*768 resolution and windows xp sp3.
Sometimes i think the problem is the graphics card .it hasn't the normal blower type cooler http://www.vgadownload.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/X...
shpuld i change the Gpu
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please help.

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Games like GTA IV need a good processor and a video card with a lot of vram. Your processor has similar performance to a Core 2 Quad Q8300 in games, to see a boost in performance in GTA you need to overclock your processor. Your graphics card aint a fault unless you play at over 1680x1050 on very high settings. GTA IV is just a badly coded unoptimized game, don't let it worry you..its not your system its the game.

I have a Intel i7 870 4Ghz and a GTX275 and i cant max it out i get 30fps average.

has22fas said:
Games like GTA IV need a good processor and a video card with a lot of vram. Your processor has similar performance to a Core 2 Quad Q8300 in games, to see a boost in performance in GTA you need to overclock your processor. Your graphics card aint a fault unless you play at over 1680x1050 on very high settings. GTA IV is just a badly coded unoptimized game, don't let it worry you..its not your system its the game.

I have a Intel i7 870 4Ghz and a GTX275 and i cant max it out i get 30fps average.

Thanks for reply .But i saw a video on youtube a person having exactly same configuration max out all settings and still get 60+ fps on 1680*1050 resolution.
i thought my system had some problems

If you kick you CPU up to 3.4-3.5 GHZ you will be in Phenom II x4 range. No slouch but not an i7... but you knew that when you only paid $100 for your cpu ;) 

Turn down the Ram and crank up the FSB (the ram goes up with FSB - so if FSB = 200 and Ram is set to 1333, raising the FSB will overclock the ram. not always stable)

Watch your temps with HW mon or similar. Use CPU-Z to check your clocks.

A 5770 isn't much compared to multiple GPUs... but as a standalone card it is nothing to laugh at. If anything turn down shader complexity or FSAA before the resolution - you should have enough power/bandwidth to handle most resolutions with ease.
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mayanksinghsolanki said:
Thanks for reply .But i saw a video on youtube a person having exactly same configuration max out all settings and still get 60+ fps on 1680*1050 resolution.
i thought my system had some problems

Yeah but that guys system could have been run on a older patch the latest patch destroys my computer.. if you don't play online try the older patches. And i really adoubt on max setting at 1680x1050 with a Amd X4 635 and a 5770 ud get 60+fps..i highly adoubt that give me a link. My i7 rig dont push that much fps.

Well, there is also a margin for error in fps comparisons - the Catalyst Control Center allows you to force settings that will override most games. If I set CCC to do the "worst" quality on my IGP I get over 500 fps on a bechmark 3D test (simple). Cranked up to max I get like 60-80. Very different when it comes to games but setting AntiAliasing, Anisotropic Filtering and Mipmap level to low settings in the CCC will greatly increase your FPS if the game is setting stuff to the max. Won't look as nice but it will run fast.

mayanksinghsolanki said:
i doubt that too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA2nz29NAoU&feature=rela...

Right point proven look at the benchmark the average fps is "37.07" in the benchmark. You do know in actual game performance it's gonna be around 22-27fps. Take the benchmark as a grain of salt this is what i got.

Statistics
Average FPS: 47.95
Duration: 37.00 sec
CPU Usage: 74%
System memory usage: 70%
Video memory usage: 100%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Shadow Quality: Very High
Reflection Resolution: High
Water Quality: Very High
Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x16
Night Shadows: Very High
View Distance: 61
Detail Distance: 100


In real game performance you think i get 48fps average? nope i get like 30fps average and dips to 25 sometimes. Therefore that link of max settings in that vid is invalid.

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i have a phenom ii 955 @ 3.6 and a 5850 and running gta iv get 56fps average on the benchmark it still drops to about 25 or even less on very loaded areas, quite annoying to play like that ... and my resolution is only 1360x768.


every other game runs all maxed including antialiasing with ease not a frame under 60.


just forget about that crap game already and don't worry, your system is fine

wiinippongamer said:
i have a phenom ii 955 @ 3.6 and a 5850 and running gta iv get 56fps average on the benchmark it still drops to about 25 or even less on very loaded areas, quite annoying to play like that ... and my resolution is only 1360x768.


every other game runs all maxed including antialiasing with ease not a frame under 60.


just forget about that crap game already and don't worry, your system is fine

According to this benchmark a 5870 is only 6fps faster than a GTX285, your HD5850 would be equivalent to my GTX275 in GTA IV. It's yet another Nvidia biased game but still the game runs well on P2 955, if you want tHE game to runner smoother try raising your resolution to take stress off cpu and more on to the GPU or change your graphics card to a 470 even. Thats if you want to play this game though it seems the 1GB of VRAM is the limit.

wiinippongamer said:
I can only go up to 1360x768, it's a 32" samsung LCD, and changing to a gtx470 just for gta iv would be ridiculous.

I refuse to play a game so badly optimized in every sense

I can't agree no more.
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