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December 31, 2010 2:27:48 AM

Hey..
My computer is getting very old and need some upgrades.. I have plenty of raw HD space as it is but could use a raptor for my OS..
Most likely gonna find 2 new monitors later on aswell but this is what I am looking at now and was wondering if I have done a good job myself or if this is all just a very bad combination :) 
Including all of this +the 2 monitors it's seems a bit expensive for me and I was wondering if there was something in here that would be easy to change and still keep it pretty up to date.. Still want a good computer but if the difference between this and a much cheaper item is very little that would be nice :) 

Cheers


MOBO
ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3 $175

Power
Corsair CMPSU-850TX $130

GFX
XFX RADEON HD 6850 Black Edition $210
or maybe
XFX Radeon HD 6950 $310

CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition $230
CPU-cooler
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus $30

RAM
Kingston HyperX 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $79

HD
Western Digital 150 GB VelociRaptor $90

Cabinet
Cooler Master HAF 932 $140

Total1: $1084 (GFX1)
Total2: 1184 (GFX2)

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December 31, 2010 9:47:40 AM

get a pair of mem modules, or get 4; your board is best when mem installed in pairs for dual channel operation, unlike the tri-channel X58 boards...
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January 1, 2011 7:30:20 AM

killerbonzai said:
ok.. why did you decide for the 4x instead? 6x just too much?


i'd have to do more research to tell you 100% but i read that most programs dont use or utalize 6 cores.. it makes sense for gaming to have 4 really fast cores to have 6 ok cores..

along with that i only had enough money to either get the 1055t (phenom II x6 2.8ghz) or 965 be (phenom II x4 3.4ghz easily overclockable) so with that in mind it was also 10-20$ cheaper i think so i decided for a 4 core

all you have to do is look for the info if you really want 100% answers (im still noob o.O)

edit: you wrote the 1090t black edition was 230, but it's $275.99 + $4.99 shipping so 280.98, my 965be was $159.99 free shipping

read results how both of them overclock, i havnt looked at the 1090t but people seem to get the 965 be 125w to 3.8ghz-4.0ghz on air (not stock cooler)
January 1, 2011 1:34:04 PM

Goko said:
i'd have to do more research to tell you 100% but i read that most programs dont use or utalize 6 cores.. it makes sense for gaming to have 4 really fast cores to have 6 ok cores..

along with that i only had enough money to either get the 1055t (phenom II x6 2.8ghz) or 965 be (phenom II x4 3.4ghz easily overclockable) so with that in mind it was also 10-20$ cheaper i think so i decided for a 4 core

all you have to do is look for the info if you really want 100% answers (im still noob o.O)

edit: you wrote the 1090t black edition was 230, but it's $275.99 + $4.99 shipping so 280.98, my 965be was $159.99 free shipping

read results how both of them overclock, i havnt looked at the 1090t but people seem to get the 965 be 125w to 3.8ghz-4.0ghz on air (not stock cooler)


ok.. think I try find a good quadcore..
and ye.. my bad on the price.. :) 

€: the 965 looks good ye.. think I might pick that one instead..
January 1, 2011 3:23:49 PM

keep in mind the overclocking on it isnt very good from this benchmark here

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-x4-965,2389-...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-x4-965,2389-...

I think the 965 BE would be ok for you but if you really want high end it seems intell out performs it in terms of ghz to ghz performance but dont bring amd vs intell discussion into this <.<.

I dont think with the current games out your cpu would be your bottle neck though.

if you really want good load times i'd suggest a OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) and a normal hard drive for space

also get a aftermarket cooler for the 965 BE

edit: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 is ok but ill probably get a different one, i dont like how you mount this .. idk.

also i think 2x 2gb 1600 ram will be ok, either gskill or corsair
January 1, 2011 9:50:16 PM
January 2, 2011 2:11:10 AM

killerbonzai said:
my bad on the price.. :) 

Not your bad, Newegg's bad. This processor was 230 yesterday, and 275 today. I would know, I was looking at buying it yesterday and today. They must've figured out I wanted it and raised the price. I'm looking at video editing, not gaming, so I still may go for it.

I've heard that games really only use 1 or 2 cores, and really get better with a better GPU, not CPU, so its actually better to use a pentium 4 and the greatest graphics card instead of the best i7 and the onboard graphics card on a MoBo. 4 cores will be worth it when you're watching youtube, checking your email, IM'ing and listening to itunes while downloading something though, so just stick with it.

Sorry if I've just confused you more, I'm new to this, but these are things I've learned.

EDIT: I see you have one 60 GB SSD picked out. I'd suggest getting a cheaper 7200 rpm drive that holds all your applications and files that aren't games, and using the SSD for the OS and the games, because 60 GB is really easy to fill up. You end up getting speed where you need it, and cheap space when its not a big deal.
January 2, 2011 11:31:49 AM

poor scrouge said:
Not your bad, Newegg's bad. This processor was 230 yesterday, and 275 today. I would know, I was looking at buying it yesterday and today. They must've figured out I wanted it and raised the price. I'm looking at video editing, not gaming, so I still may go for it.

I've heard that games really only use 1 or 2 cores, and really get better with a better GPU, not CPU, so its actually better to use a pentium 4 and the greatest graphics card instead of the best i7 and the onboard graphics card on a MoBo. 4 cores will be worth it when you're watching youtube, checking your email, IM'ing and listening to itunes while downloading something though, so just stick with it.

Sorry if I've just confused you more, I'm new to this, but these are things I've learned.

EDIT: I see you have one 60 GB SSD picked out. I'd suggest getting a cheaper 7200 rpm drive that holds all your applications and files that aren't games, and using the SSD for the OS and the games, because 60 GB is really easy to fill up. You end up getting speed where you need it, and cheap space when its not a big deal.


hehe ok.. and ye I'm going for 4 cores.. and no, no confusion :) 
and about the HD.. I do have plenty of space from another HD I bought not long ago and I just need a 10000 rmp drive for OS and important programs/games..
January 3, 2011 9:42:35 AM

any more comments before I start buying?
final build good now? :) 
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