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December 31, 2010 7:14:19 PM


This will be for a 12 year old and 6 year old. No Multitasking, No Games etc. Mainly to do school homework for 12 year old and internet.

Approximate Purchase Date: In a week

Budget Range: $350 -$450 – Or less to meet the requirements.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Internet, Webcam, Microsoft Office

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse, Windows 7 (32 bit)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: AMD CPU, 4 GB DDR3, Mid Tower (Quite – Quite Case)

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050,

Additional Comments: Will pass this desktop to 6 year old when 12 years needs a better computer. I would like to invest in a good case and power supply at this time. Need a black computer case with no frills or side windows/shining lights.

Just a QUITE and SIMPLE Case.

Other Items Needed: Speakers and Wifi card

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $59.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply = $39.97
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock 880GXH/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard = $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor ADX240OCGQBOX = $56.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL = $49,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive = $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM = $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill RNX-G300EX IEEE 802.11b/g PCI Wireless Card Up to 54Mbps Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, 802.1x, WPA, WPA2, AES, TKIP with 100cm cable external 2 dBi Antenna = $14.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM = $27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Link Depot 6" SATA Cable with Power Adapter Model LD-SATA-0.5C $2.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM = $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total with Shipping to 78717 = $420.98

If I should downgrade ( AMD Sempron140? to justify system needs then please recommend. Thanks


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December 31, 2010 7:24:25 PM

4gigs of ram is useless if youre using 32 bit windows.
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December 31, 2010 7:25:39 PM

trade that coolermaster PSU for a lower wattage corsair builder series (430w). higher quality PSU for about the same price.

keep the dualcore

motherboard should come with atleast a couple SATA data connectors, so you wont need to buy an extra

SAMSUNG F3 500gb HD is a better choice than that WD blue series, and the samsung is only a few bucks more expensive

also: DDR3 1333 will more than suffice, you dont need to spend the extra money on 1600. youll never notice the difference

since youre running win7 32bit, you could maybe even downgrade to 2gb of ram seeing how 32bit OS probably wont recognize all 4gb
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December 31, 2010 7:33:38 PM

^ +1 On the Spinpoint F3 HDD and DDR3 1333.

Keep the 4GB of RAM though and get 64bit Windows. There is no reason not to at this point.

Also the Antec 300 Illusion is a better deal as it comes with ( filtered ) front fans for the same price. The fans are 3 speed and nearly silent on low while still moving quite a bit of air.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 31, 2010 7:34:35 PM

So is this better
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $59.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 CMPSU-430CX 430W ATX12V Active PFC Power Supply = $43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock 880GXH/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard = $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157200

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor ADX240OCGQBOX = $56.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103688

Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT12864BA1339 = $27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive = $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM = $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204

Rosewill RNX-G300EX IEEE 802.11b/g PCI Wireless Card Up to 54Mbps Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, 802.1x, WPA, WPA2, AES, TKIP with 100cm cable external 2 dBi Antenna = $14.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6833166020

Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM = $27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6836121014

Link Depot 6" SATA Cable with Power Adapter Model LD-SATA-0.5C $2.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6812189193

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM = $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835100007


Total with Shipping to 78717 = $420.98
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December 31, 2010 7:35:33 PM

Well, unless you are getting an aftermarket cooler for your CPU, you won't need the AS5 thermal compound. The included heat sink will already have thermal compound on it. I am not sure why you think you need the Link Depot SATA cable? Here is an Antec Power Supply that would be more than enough to support your build for $30 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 31, 2010 7:38:30 PM

anort3 said:
^ +1 On the Spinpoint F3 HDD and DDR3 1333.

Keep the 4GB of RAM though and get 64bit Windows. There is no reason not to at this point.

Also the Antec 300 Illusion is a better deal as it comes with ( filtered ) front fans for the same price. The fans are 3 speed and nearly silent on low while still moving quite a bit of air.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Sorry I missed your post while I was making changes. I will consider that case also. I am looking for a quite and a durable case (power switches) as I am put the computer is kids study room and 6 year old do tend to hit stuff sometimes with his toys.
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December 31, 2010 7:41:00 PM

clarkjd said:
Well, unless you are getting an aftermarket cooler for your CPU, you won't need the AS5 thermal compound. The included heat sink will already have thermal compound on it. I am not sure why you think you need the Link Depot SATA cable? Here is an Antec Power Supply that would be more than enough to support your build for $30 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks. I have not build a system in a very long time. I thought I would need the paste and OEM harddrive may not include a SATA cable.

Thanks so much for your time.
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December 31, 2010 7:43:33 PM

anort3 said:
^ +1 On the Spinpoint F3 HDD and DDR3 1333.

Keep the 4GB of RAM though and get 64bit Windows. There is no reason not to at this point.

Also the Antec 300 Illusion is a better deal as it comes with ( filtered ) front fans for the same price. The fans are 3 speed and nearly silent on low while still moving quite a bit of air.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I will look into 64bit Windows (Got to check with wife's work/univ. to see if we can get discounted OS)
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December 31, 2010 7:44:32 PM

The motherboard will come with SATA cables.

The 300 Illusion is my "go to" case for general use computers as it comes with the extra cooling for the same price as the 300.
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December 31, 2010 7:45:38 PM

You are right about the OEM hard drive, but most Motherboards supply at least two SATA cables, as well as other connectors.
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December 31, 2010 7:46:39 PM

Even a 32bit OS will do better with 4GB of RAM even though it can only "see" 3.25 or there about. I ran 4GB on 32bit XP and could tell when I upgraded from 2GB.
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December 31, 2010 7:57:33 PM

The X3 450 is a sweet little chip for the money. I am not on my home machine right now and am using an X3 440 I built for a family member. The triple core chips are a great deal for the price. Much more futureproof than a dual core and only $20 more with that combo.
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December 31, 2010 8:01:17 PM

I like the X3 CPU.

However I have not put a system with a Micro ATX MB yet.

Any pro/con of a Micro ATX ( are they better than ATX?)

Thanks so much for helping. This will keep kids happy and not asking to use parents desktop/laptop each time. :D 
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December 31, 2010 8:03:18 PM

TimCL said:
I like the X3 CPU.

However I have not put a system with a Micro ATX MB yet.

Any pro/con of a Micro ATX ( are they better than ATX?)

Thanks so much for helping. This will keep kids happy and not asking to use parents desktop/laptop each time. :D 




Micro ATX just is smaller with fewer expansion slots. You do not need a full ATX as you will not be adding multiple graphics cards and sound cards and other add ons.
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December 31, 2010 8:18:19 PM

anort3 said:
Micro ATX just is smaller with fewer expansion slots. You do not need a full ATX as you will not be adding multiple graphics cards and sound cards and other add ons.


Understood.

Should I then look for a Micro ATX X Case or leave it as ATX Mid Tower for future use?
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December 31, 2010 8:21:06 PM

TimCL said:
Understood.

Should I then look for a Micro ATX X Case or leave it as ATX Mid Tower for future use?



I don't like micro ATX cases. Too small for good cooling or cable management. I would still get the 300 / 300 Illusion.
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December 31, 2010 8:39:30 PM

Is this looking better?


Case And Power Supply

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard and CPU Combo

AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX450WFGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BIOSTAR TA880GB+ AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory (For 64 Bit OS consideration)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD/CD RW & Hard Drive
ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Speakers & WiFi
Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill RNX-G300EX IEEE 802.11b/g PCI Wireless Card Up to 54Mbps Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, 802.1x, WPA, WPA2, AES, TKIP with 100cm cable external 2 dBi Antenna
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total with Shipping is $417.76 ($4.84 shipping)
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December 31, 2010 8:45:46 PM

Looks like a great little build for the money.
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December 31, 2010 9:38:27 PM

Looks good to me also! :sol: 
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December 31, 2010 9:57:58 PM

I was getting ready to order and review everything again.

The Ant3c case lists "Motherboard Compatibility = ATX"

Am a looking for any issues or mods with Micro ATX MB installation?
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December 31, 2010 9:59:33 PM

Nope. I am using an Antec 300 Illusion with a micro ATX board right now.
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December 31, 2010 10:00:07 PM

anort3 said:
Nope. I am using an Antec 300 Illusion with a micro ATX board right now.


Thanks!
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December 31, 2010 10:00:37 PM

Glad to help. :) 

Hope your kids enjoy their new toy!
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December 31, 2010 10:07:07 PM

The MB/CPU combo is no longer available?

Sorry Found it!
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January 11, 2011 1:20:17 AM

Best answer selected by TimCL.
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January 11, 2011 1:24:06 AM

Thanks "anort3" and 'clarkjd".

Put the system together and like it.

How do I make anyone stop installing any software (kids planning to explore online flash games and may install something unknowingly). I have installed Antivir and it has served me well in the past. (or should I ask this question in another section of the forum.

At present there is only user that I created when I installed OS.

Thanks again!
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January 11, 2011 2:29:32 AM

TimCL said:
Thanks "anort3" and 'clarkjd".

Put the system together and like it.

How do I make anyone stop installing any software (kids planning to explore online flash games and may install something unknowingly). I have installed Antivir and it has served me well in the past. (or should I ask this question in another section of the forum.

At present there is only user that I created when I installed OS.

Thanks again!


Create an admin account for you, and create a secondary account for the kids,
you'll be able to set what you allow the kids to use or not.
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January 11, 2011 2:31:26 AM

TimCL said:
Thanks "anort3" and 'clarkjd".

Put the system together and like it.

How do I make anyone stop installing any software (kids planning to explore online flash games and may install something unknowingly). I have installed Antivir and it has served me well in the past. (or should I ask this question in another section of the forum.

At present there is only user that I created when I installed OS.

Thanks again!



I use Avira antivirus combined with Malwarebytes to keep my PC clean. Just pay attention to the Programs list under Control Panel and run an antivirus and Malwarebytes scan once a week. Should keep your PC nice and clean.
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