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A friend of mine has a Nikon 5700 and the file sizes when the camera is set
on 5mp are only 1.3mb for jpegs, even when it's set on "fine" resolution. I
would have expected a file size of over 2mb. I would be grateful if anyone
could tell me what file size you should expect for jpegs on the highest
resolution of the 5700. If the file size is in fact over 2mb, are there any
settings that my friend should alter so that the full resolution can be
achieved? Thanks very much for your help.

Regards, Fred

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BJTR wrote:
> A friend of mine has a Nikon 5700 and the file sizes when the camera is set
> on 5mp are only 1.3mb for jpegs, even when it's set on "fine" resolution. I
> would have expected a file size of over 2mb. I would be grateful if anyone
> could tell me what file size you should expect for jpegs on the highest
> resolution of the 5700. If the file size is in fact over 2mb, are there any
> settings that my friend should alter so that the full resolution can be
> achieved? Thanks very much for your help.
>
> Regards, Fred

Hi Fred...

I suspect that you'll find that there's no real answer for
how big the jpg sizes are. Each picture will be
different.

To demonstrate, have your friend try an experiment.
Take a picture of the sky, or perhaps a blank featureless
indoor wall. Look at the jpg file size. Take another
picture that is very "busy" - lots of colors, lots of
detail - maybe flowers or kids with brightly colored
patterned outfits on - and check that file size.

Take care.

Ken

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:25:43 +1300, in rec.photo.digital "BJTR"
<BJTR@bjtr.net> wrote:

>A friend of mine has a Nikon 5700 and the file sizes when the camera is set
>on 5mp are only 1.3mb for jpegs, even when it's set on "fine" resolution. I
>would have expected a file size of over 2mb. I would be grateful if anyone
>could tell me what file size you should expect for jpegs on the highest
>resolution of the 5700. If the file size is in fact over 2mb, are there any
>settings that my friend should alter so that the full resolution can be
>achieved? Thanks very much for your help.

That's been my experience.
________________________________________________________
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
See images taken with my CP-990/5700 & D70 at
http://EdwardGRuf.com

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"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xsbJd.159987$8l.143102@pd7tw1no...
>
>
> BJTR wrote:
> > A friend of mine has a Nikon 5700 and the file sizes when the camera is
set
> > on 5mp are only 1.3mb for jpegs, even when it's set on "fine"
resolution. I
> > would have expected a file size of over 2mb. I would be grateful if
anyone
> > could tell me what file size you should expect for jpegs on the highest
> > resolution of the 5700. If the file size is in fact over 2mb, are there
any
> > settings that my friend should alter so that the full resolution can be
> > achieved? Thanks very much for your help.
> >
> > Regards, Fred
>
> Hi Fred...
>
> I suspect that you'll find that there's no real answer for
> how big the jpg sizes are. Each picture will be
> different.
>
> To demonstrate, have your friend try an experiment.
> Take a picture of the sky, or perhaps a blank featureless
> indoor wall. Look at the jpg file size. Take another
> picture that is very "busy" - lots of colors, lots of
> detail - maybe flowers or kids with brightly colored
> patterned outfits on - and check that file size.
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken
>

Ken is there a standard test that is done to measure jpg compression?+

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Harvey wrote:

> "Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:xsbJd.159987$8l.143102@pd7tw1no...
>
>>
>>BJTR wrote:
>>
>>>A friend of mine has a Nikon 5700 and the file sizes when the camera is
>
> set
>
>>>on 5mp are only 1.3mb for jpegs, even when it's set on "fine"
>
> resolution. I
>
>>>would have expected a file size of over 2mb. I would be grateful if
>
> anyone
>
>>>could tell me what file size you should expect for jpegs on the highest
>>>resolution of the 5700. If the file size is in fact over 2mb, are there
>
> any
>
>>>settings that my friend should alter so that the full resolution can be
>>>achieved? Thanks very much for your help.
>>>
>>>Regards, Fred
>>
>>Hi Fred...
>>
>>I suspect that you'll find that there's no real answer for
>>how big the jpg sizes are. Each picture will be
>>different.
>>
>>To demonstrate, have your friend try an experiment.
>>Take a picture of the sky, or perhaps a blank featureless
>>indoor wall. Look at the jpg file size. Take another
>>picture that is very "busy" - lots of colors, lots of
>>detail - maybe flowers or kids with brightly colored
>>patterned outfits on - and check that file size.
>>
>>Take care.
>>
>>Ken
>>
>
>
> Ken is there a standard test that is done to measure jpg compression?

Hi Harvey...

I have a tool here called jpeg quality that measures
the level of compression in a jpeg.

I got it from mediachance (www.mediachance.com); but I just
checked quickly and it doesn't seem to be there anymore.

It was freeware; I have a copy here, and I'll be glad to
email it to you if you like. Send me an email; I'll reply.

Take care.

Ken

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My cp 5700 picture size usually falls between 1.5 - 2.8 mb in fine mode. It
really depends on the complexity or how busy the picture.is.
Regards
Carlos http://www.pbase.com/zallakab1

"BJTR" <BJTR@bjtr.net> wrote in message news:41f53daa@clear.net.nz...
>A friend of mine has a Nikon 5700 and the file sizes when the camera is set
> on 5mp are only 1.3mb for jpegs, even when it's set on "fine" resolution.
> I
> would have expected a file size of over 2mb. I would be grateful if anyone
> could tell me what file size you should expect for jpegs on the highest
> resolution of the 5700. If the file size is in fact over 2mb, are there
> any
> settings that my friend should alter so that the full resolution can be
> achieved? Thanks very much for your help.
>
> Regards, Fred
>
>
>

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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:07:08 -0500, in rec.photo.digital Ed Ruf
<egruf_usenet@cox.net> wrote:

>That's been my experience.

Sorry, brain fade at work on this original reply. 1.2MB was around normal
for my 990. 1.6-1.8MB is about what I got with my 5700. It will depend on
the settings for sharpness, saturation, contrast, etc.
----------
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
See images taken with my CP-990/5700 & D70 at
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Phot [...] index.html

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"Ed Ruf" <egruf_usenet@cox.net> wrote in message
news:091bv0tccs8du268ojf9ac0odr3lna5495@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:07:08 -0500, in rec.photo.digital Ed Ruf
> <egruf_usenet@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >That's been my experience.
>
> Sorry, brain fade at work on this original reply. 1.2MB was around normal
> for my 990. 1.6-1.8MB is about what I got with my 5700. It will depend on
> the settings for sharpness, saturation, contrast, etc.

Thanks very much for these replies. For my 5 megapixel Sony camera, the last
36 photos have taken up 71mb, giving an average size per photo of about 2Mb.
My Sony 3 megapixel camera averaged about 1.3 MB per photo, which is what
the Nikon 5700 5 megapixel camera averages, so perhaps Nikon cameras have a
different jpeg compression system to that used by Sony? However, I have
found that, when doing A3-sized enlargements from Nikon's 1.3mb images, they
make the grade reasonably well, particularly after sharpening the image with
Photoshop. However, I get better A3 enlargements from my 5 megapixel Sony
camera. I find the Photoshop sharpen function to be very valuable and it
doesn't seem to cause the picture quality to deteriorate. Is this your
experience also?

Regards, Fred

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:36:13 +1300, in rec.photo.digital "BJTR"
<BJTR@bjtr.net> wrote:

>Thanks very much for these replies. For my 5 megapixel Sony camera, the last
>36 photos have taken up 71mb, giving an average size per photo of about 2Mb.
>My Sony 3 megapixel camera averaged about 1.3 MB per photo, which is what
>the Nikon 5700 5 megapixel camera averages, so perhaps Nikon cameras have a
>different jpeg compression system to that used by Sony?

Of course. Every manufacturer uses differing amounts of compression in
their settings.

However, I have
>found that, when doing A3-sized enlargements from Nikon's 1.3mb images, they
>make the grade reasonably well, particularly after sharpening the image with
>Photoshop. However, I get better A3 enlargements from my 5 megapixel Sony
>camera. I find the Photoshop sharpen function to be very valuable and it
>doesn't seem to cause the picture quality to deteriorate. Is this your
>experience also?

I got pretty good 8x10" from my 990, so yes the 5700 is better. It would
help to know what settings you are using for the in camera processing
settings. IMO, for best results set all of these to none, ie sharpening,
contrast, brightness, etc. In fact there was a movement by some 5700 users
to set lower than standard saturation. Of course all the above means one
them does have to process every image you want. For best work of course,
raw is the best. Unfortunately, Nikon never offered a firmware upgrade that
addressed the issue of the lack of speed of saving these. Expect 20-22 sec,
no matter how fast a card is in the camera.
----------
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
See images taken with my CP-990/5700 & D70 at
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Phot [...] index.html

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