$600 Gaming system, GTX470 already bought

Approximate Purchase Date: Within a week

Budget Range: $600 for everything but the graphics card, which is a GTX470 (xmas present). I'm trying to save as much as I can, so if I can cut back on this price, I'd like to do so.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming primarily. Movies. Maybe Autocad and Solidworks. Atm my game is Eve Online, some SC2. I run 2 or 3 instances of the game, plus internet windows and other programs.

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, monitors, dvd

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, maybe amazon.

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: I'd really prefer to stick with an intel CPU, but I'm open to options.

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Not right now, but down the road, yes.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: Trying to save as much as I can, but not at the cost of being unable to multitask excessively or getting crappy parts.

Here's what I have so far:

Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 120mm

Open Box: BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified

Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive


The graphics card that I have is:
PNY XLR8 VCGGTX470XPB GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

So. A few things. First of all, that motherboard is from newegg, open box. Saves $40 over the original price, and it's the motherboard I was going to pick anyway. So, is it a decent mobo, and is it a bad idea to go open box?

Second, I know I could save money and go with 4gb of RAM, but my current comp has 4gb and it isn't enough, so I really don't want to do that.

And third, should I downgrade the cpu to a i5-750 for $10? And how much of a performance hit would I take going with a quad core AMD processor, which seems to be significantly cheaper?
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  1. The "open box" part means that it might NOT have all the parts and accessories that come with a new MoBo. Parts like extra cables, I/O panel, manual, CD with Drivers and other software. Is it worth $40 to you to take that chance and maybe have to order replacements for the missing parts and have to wait to finish your build until the parts arrive days later?
  2. Agreed, spend $30 extra and get a more reliable motherboard with all the fixings, like the Asus P7P55D-E LX.
  3. According to Tom's hierarchy chart, there is not that much difference in performance, at stock speeds between the 750 and 760. I would get the less expensive one. The chart:


    suggests that there is only one tier difference between the I5-760 and a Phenom II X4 black edition 955. The chart says that a less than 3 tier change results in the "upgrade is somewhat parallel and you may not notice a worthwhile difference in game performance." as always, YMMV. read the guide, and make your own decisions
  4. All right, no open box for me. In that case, would that same motherboard new be a good choice?

    BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

    The one that you suggested only has one pcie slot, and I'm planning on getting another 470 in a few months. Also, how much does it matter if the second pcie slot can only run at x4? The board above runs at x8/x8, but is it worth paying for that?

    And is that antec 650w PSU good enough to run 2 GTX470's?

    Thanks for the answers!
  5. Anything less than X8/X8 would suffer performance degradation, to the point that a single higher powered card would out perform the SLI setup, Ie a single GTX480 would outperform two 470's in SLI.
  6. If you really need to run SLI two 470s that board would probably do the thing is biostar is a second tier manufacturer if you don't need SLI get this instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131634&Tpk=p7p55d-e%20lx

    Also if you crossfire 470s they'll be very hot and draw lot's of a power the psu may be overloaded or near maximum capacity so I would suggest this one instead but it's about 60 more after the rebates so you may want to reconsider your sli proposition


    The heat of 470s may be a bit much for that case I would really recommend just keeping this single card.
  7. Mirkheim said:

    And is that antec 650w PSU good enough to run 2 GTX470's?

    Take a look at my sig ;)
  8. well I guess boiler1990 knows more than I do but still the heat
  9. Thanks for all the responses. Especially the sig, lol.

    So, stick with an x8/x8 if I want to SLI. I'm not sure I do, yet, but I'd like to keep the option available. As far as heat goes, would adding an extra fan or two to that case help with that problem, or is there a better case for a reasonable price?

    Do you guys think that SLI will be worthwhile for my stated uses? Ideally I'd like to be able to 3 instances of Eve on max graphics and watch a movie on my second monitor at the same time. If one 470 can support that, then I'd be ok with going with a single pcie mobo.

  10. joelmartinez said:
    well I guess boiler1990 knows more than I do but still the heat

    The EA650W is rated for 650W continuous output, which is just about what my system draws. I'm thinking about the Corsair AX850 when I do some upgrades hopefully this year.

    The 470s do get pretty hot; they're designed to run a little hotter than other GPUs (max temp is 109 C I believe). Mine usually hit 87-90C at 100% load, so if your cooling isn't any good, you'll hit a tough spot.
  11. 4 instances of EVE? yeah. You want SLI then
  12. Well, in that case I'd definately like to keep the possibility of SLI open. So, would heat be a problem in that case, and would extra fans fix the problem?

    Alternatively, I could go with an AMD setup, probably using:

    AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

    ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

    That would save me around $80 compared to the Intel setup. Is that going to cost me a noticeable amount of performance, is that a decent mobo, and if I wanted to use some of that saved money to get a better case, what would you recommend?

  13. You can't SLI on AMD mobos sorry :(
  14. Ahhh. That's unfortunate. Oh well. I like intel better anyway.
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