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$600 Gaming system, GTX470 already bought

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January 2, 2011 9:17:18 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within a week


Budget Range: $600 for everything but the graphics card, which is a GTX470 (xmas present). I'm trying to save as much as I can, so if I can cut back on this price, I'd like to do so.


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming primarily. Movies. Maybe Autocad and Solidworks. Atm my game is Eve Online, some SC2. I run 2 or 3 instances of the game, plus internet windows and other programs.


Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, monitors, dvd


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, maybe amazon.


Country of Origin: US


Parts Preferences: I'd really prefer to stick with an intel CPU, but I'm open to options.


Overclocking: No


SLI or Crossfire: Not right now, but down the road, yes.


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200


Additional Comments: Trying to save as much as I can, but not at the cost of being unable to multitask excessively or getting crappy parts.

Here's what I have so far:

Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 120mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Open Box: BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total:$583

The graphics card that I have is:
PNY XLR8 VCGGTX470XPB GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


So. A few things. First of all, that motherboard is from newegg, open box. Saves $40 over the original price, and it's the motherboard I was going to pick anyway. So, is it a decent mobo, and is it a bad idea to go open box?

Second, I know I could save money and go with 4gb of RAM, but my current comp has 4gb and it isn't enough, so I really don't want to do that.

And third, should I downgrade the cpu to a i5-750 for $10? And how much of a performance hit would I take going with a quad core AMD processor, which seems to be significantly cheaper?
January 2, 2011 9:52:56 PM

The "open box" part means that it might NOT have all the parts and accessories that come with a new MoBo. Parts like extra cables, I/O panel, manual, CD with Drivers and other software. Is it worth $40 to you to take that chance and maybe have to order replacements for the missing parts and have to wait to finish your build until the parts arrive days later?
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January 2, 2011 11:41:40 PM

Agreed, spend $30 extra and get a more reliable motherboard with all the fixings, like the Asus P7P55D-E LX.
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January 3, 2011 12:07:49 AM

According to Tom's hierarchy chart, there is not that much difference in performance, at stock speeds between the 750 and 760. I would get the less expensive one. The chart:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-overclocki...

suggests that there is only one tier difference between the I5-760 and a Phenom II X4 black edition 955. The chart says that a less than 3 tier change results in the "upgrade is somewhat parallel and you may not notice a worthwhile difference in game performance." as always, YMMV. read the guide, and make your own decisions
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January 3, 2011 12:10:10 AM

All right, no open box for me. In that case, would that same motherboard new be a good choice?

BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The one that you suggested only has one pcie slot, and I'm planning on getting another 470 in a few months. Also, how much does it matter if the second pcie slot can only run at x4? The board above runs at x8/x8, but is it worth paying for that?

And is that antec 650w PSU good enough to run 2 GTX470's?

Thanks for the answers!
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January 3, 2011 12:22:17 AM

Anything less than X8/X8 would suffer performance degradation, to the point that a single higher powered card would out perform the SLI setup, Ie a single GTX480 would outperform two 470's in SLI.
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January 3, 2011 12:24:55 AM

If you really need to run SLI two 470s that board would probably do the thing is biostar is a second tier manufacturer if you don't need SLI get this instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also if you crossfire 470s they'll be very hot and draw lot's of a power the psu may be overloaded or near maximum capacity so I would suggest this one instead but it's about 60 more after the rebates so you may want to reconsider your sli proposition

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The heat of 470s may be a bit much for that case I would really recommend just keeping this single card.
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January 3, 2011 12:32:04 AM

Mirkheim said:

And is that antec 650w PSU good enough to run 2 GTX470's?


Take a look at my sig ;) 
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January 3, 2011 12:33:31 AM

well I guess boiler1990 knows more than I do but still the heat
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January 3, 2011 12:40:49 AM

Thanks for all the responses. Especially the sig, lol.

So, stick with an x8/x8 if I want to SLI. I'm not sure I do, yet, but I'd like to keep the option available. As far as heat goes, would adding an extra fan or two to that case help with that problem, or is there a better case for a reasonable price?

Do you guys think that SLI will be worthwhile for my stated uses? Ideally I'd like to be able to 3 instances of Eve on max graphics and watch a movie on my second monitor at the same time. If one 470 can support that, then I'd be ok with going with a single pcie mobo.

Thanks
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January 3, 2011 12:51:07 AM

joelmartinez said:
well I guess boiler1990 knows more than I do but still the heat


The EA650W is rated for 650W continuous output, which is just about what my system draws. I'm thinking about the Corsair AX850 when I do some upgrades hopefully this year.

The 470s do get pretty hot; they're designed to run a little hotter than other GPUs (max temp is 109 C I believe). Mine usually hit 87-90C at 100% load, so if your cooling isn't any good, you'll hit a tough spot.
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January 3, 2011 12:51:24 AM

4 instances of EVE? yeah. You want SLI then
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January 3, 2011 1:04:56 AM

Well, in that case I'd definately like to keep the possibility of SLI open. So, would heat be a problem in that case, and would extra fans fix the problem?

Alternatively, I could go with an AMD setup, probably using:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That would save me around $80 compared to the Intel setup. Is that going to cost me a noticeable amount of performance, is that a decent mobo, and if I wanted to use some of that saved money to get a better case, what would you recommend?

Thanks!
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January 3, 2011 1:06:03 AM

You can't SLI on AMD mobos sorry :( 
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January 3, 2011 1:10:12 AM

Ahhh. That's unfortunate. Oh well. I like intel better anyway.
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