Super machine for gaming. i7 six core or extreme.???

kingzeze84

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i would like to build a new pc since my last build was on 2007.

my target is hardcore gaming like wow, crysis 2, COD and duture games.

i got 24 inch samsung full HD. creative sound system 7.1.

my question is divided into 2:
- is it enough to get the i7 2nd generation with six core or should i get the ectreme edition. the difference is 600$ which can bring something else.

- i am not sure which liquid cooling should i pick since my last system destructed. got to own thermaltake 745i.

my future system is :
evga motherboard last model for i7. 300$
evga gtx 590. 800$+
corsair memory ddr3 1600mhz 6gb. ( if you got better suggestion ur welcome ).
SSD 140-160gb ( not sure which model)
1TB WD.
thermaltake 1200 watt + ( cause i am thinkin of 2x gtx 590 ) in future.

that should be all for now.
 

werxen

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Sounds like you have a lot of money to burn.... Just be careful with the 2 GTX590s. Even a 1200 watt PSU will be screwed with 2 of those cards in there. That being said - you don't need 4 way SLI. One of those bad boys is plenty enough for how (in)efficient it really is. I also recommend a quad core - invest the saved money from PSU + CPU into a proper SSD.
 
What is ya budget ? I don't see the 1366 platform for gaming since SB hit the streets unless you also need to do stuff that likes the extra threads and triple channel memory. I'll take a shot at $2k and list several "options" from there:

Case - $140 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087
Case Fan - $15 - Antec Red 120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209013
PSU - $110 - Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371024

Alternate to the above would be the HAF-X w/ XFX Black Edition 850 or Corsair HX850 / AX850. All 4 PSU's get 10.0 perforrmance ratings at jonnyguru.com though the CP-850 is, according to jonny:

It is completely unmatched by any ATX unit on the market I can think of. You'd have to spend twice as much as this thing costs to find the next best thing, performance wise.

MoBo - $260 - ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131694

Handles the two GFX cards at x16 x16 rather than the x8 x8 ya get on all other boards w/o a NF200 chip. Alternate would be Asus Maximus IV Extreme

CPU - $225 - Intel Core i5-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Alternate i7-2600.... + $100

True liquid cooling doesn't seem to have found a real home w/ SB since heat is not so much it's enemy as past processors were. You can get to 4.6 Ghz on a 2600 w/ just the Intel stock cooler. If ya stuck on water cooling, perhaps one of the "faux water coolers" will satisfy ya need. Th Antec Kuhler 620, base dupon this review, would appear to be the latest and greatest in this arena

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=694&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=5

Cooler - $70 - Antec Kuhler 620 http://store.antec.com/Product/cooling-cpu_cooler/kuhler-h2o-620/0-761345-77085-9.aspx
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080

Alternately, the current best air coolers are the Thermalright Silver Arrow and Prolimatech Genesis (Most reviews in german)
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=674&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=4

I really don't see the SB PSU's CPU benefiting much from anything more than the Scyther Mugen 2 ($40) w/ Shin Etsu as above.

RAM - $145 - (2 x 4GB) Mushkin CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226178

Save $40 if ya want CAS 9

GFX - $264 - Asus GTX 560 Factory Overclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681412142
GFX - $264 - Same

I started w/ the 560 OC'd editions cause they fall just a hair behind the 570's. Here's the test suite over at Guru3D, total fps reported is the sum of the performance in these games.

COD-MW
Bad Company 2
Dirt 2
Far Cry 2
Metro 2033
Dawn of Discovery
Crysis Warhead

560 Ti Cu (900 Mhz) - 495 total fps
560 Ti Cu (900 Mhz) in SLI - 862 (174% scaling)

Alternatives:

6970 - 526 fps
6970 in CF - 751 (157% scaling)

570 - 524 total fps
570 in SLI - 873 (166% scaling)

590 - 881 total fps
590 in SLI - 982 (111% scaling)

6990 - 762 total fps
6990 in CF - 903 (119% scaling)

For $520 (twin 560 Ti 900MHz), you can get 862 frames in SLI
For $1400 (twin 590's), you can get 982 frames in SLI

That's 13.9% more frames for 169% more money .... I don't see it. Not to mention the power requirements. Not to mention the fact that those 900 Mhz cards can be overclocked another 10% w/o issue.

HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

SSD - $250 - OCZ Vertex 3 2.5" 120GB Expected on shelves March 30th

DVD Writer - $90 - Plextor BR Combo Drive w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827249055

OS - $140 - Win 7-64 Pro OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116758