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Hello, Can anyone please help with recommending a low profile card for my hp dc7700 pc.

To watch HD video and to lower CPU cycles. It should be quiet if possible, don't want to hear a mad fan. Thanks.

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Something like this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] =GX-118-HT ?

Its low profile, Completely silent (passively cooled) and has ATI Avivo HD technology which takes the load off the CPU when watching videos/movies.

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Reply to omgitzfatal

Superb. Looking on ebay item no. (250721405895) although the model no is the same it looks different... Don't know what the deal with that is... is it the same?

Reply to sparkyshark

that low pro hd 5450 is cool, not impressive though.
nVidia has equals like low pro gt430 and gt240..

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Reply to malmental

@OP that looks like the same card to me, however I would personally buy from a trusted retrailer like overclockers.co.uk, its the same price and you can return the item if its faulty, I noticed that the seller on ebay does not accept returns.

@malmental, I don't think the OP is looking for an 'Impressive' card, just one that is quiet and aids in playing HD video's.

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Reply to omgitzfatal

Just found this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] subcat=938

Alittle cheaper and will do the same job.

If you prefer nVidia then this is a good choice: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] ubcat=1010 although it does have a fan, So I'm not sure how loud/quiet it would be.

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omgitzfatal wrote :

@OP that looks like the same card to me, however I would personally buy from a trusted retrailer like overclockers.co.uk, its the same price and you can return the item if its faulty, I noticed that the seller on ebay does not accept returns.

@malmental, I don't think the OP is looking for an 'Impressive' card, just one that is quiet and aids in playing HD video's.



to be honest, all cards listed in thread have been crap..

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Reply to malmental

Well I don't see the point in suggesting a mid range or high end graphics card when the OP is only after a card for watching HD Video's. It would be a waste of money.

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Reply to omgitzfatal

that's the range of the cards he was looking at in the first place..

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Reply to malmental

What about this one?


Powercolor HD5450 40$

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Message edited by Aneesh@4GHz on 11-04-2010 at 12:09:01 PM
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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

What about this one?


Powercolor HD5450 40$


see i already suggested that and I get (an attempted ripping) from omgitzfatal...
i new I wasn't far off on this.

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Reply to malmental

malmental wrote :

see i already suggested that and I get (an attempted ripping) from omgitzfatal...
i new I wasn't far off on this.



What the hell are you smoking? :heink: I'm the one who suggested it in my first post in this thread, then you said it was cool but not impressive.....

An attempted ripping? lol ok buddy. :pt1cable:

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Reply to omgitzfatal

you wish you could afford what I'm smoking dude..
makes cheech and chong go back to making movies to hit this.... :kaola:
lovin' every toke.


Message edited by malmental on 11-04-2010 at 01:04:16 PM
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I can afford Green, difference is i'm not a downer.

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Reply to omgitzfatal

that's up for debate dude.
just ask you lil' lady friend after your 2-min quickies... :sweat:
tonight she'll have a headache. :pfff:


Message edited by malmental on 11-04-2010 at 01:10:17 PM
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So you want me to ask your mum if I'm a downer after I'm done with her? Then she'll have a headache?

Not sure about a headache, but she'll be sore alright. :)

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Reply to omgitzfatal

oooooh good one.
get off moms though because I just got off yours...;)

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Reply to malmental

FYI
competitive banter wakes me up in the morning.
i am only having fun...

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Reply to malmental

Couldn't perform eh? unlucky....

Your Mum's so fat, when she fell down the stairs I thought EastEnders was ending. :D

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Reply to omgitzfatal

we should open a thread on your momma jokes...
till the next debate amigo.

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Reply to malmental

Yeah, yeah.

Probs best to stop now lol. Don't wanna be banned haha.

till next time man.

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Reply to omgitzfatal

Lets get this back on track.

The guys are right re main usage. Unless its a small step up to the mid range cards my sole use will be watching HD content via DVD, you tube etc. Game play would only be the odd flash games "abcarcade" for example & some photo editing. Though in the future maybe some basic video editing as a possibility - but then I'd need a far more powerful machine anyway. hdmi a must which they all have. The dvi is in use by my laptop.

Point taken re eBay I'll stick to the main suppliers warranty/returns etc.

Ok so options so far: All low profile. Exc Del. So which one then...
£34.99 HIS ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB GDDR3 SILENT / HDMI YES
£35.24 As above but 1G instead of 512mb
£24.99 (Cheap) Asus ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB GDDR2 / HDMI YES
£31.98 (FAN) Asus GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 / HDMI YES
£32.43 PowerColor Go! Green AX5450 512MK3-SH Radeon HD 5450 / HDMI YES


More Expensive:
Found at £57.56 (FAN) Asus GeForce GT 430 1024MB GDDR3 / HDMI YES
Doesn't appear to be low profile £77.98 Gainward GeForce GT 240 OC 1024MB GDDR3
Also why is it when you say goto: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/prod [...] &subid=168

There are so many options for the same card why???? Confusing to me anyway..!!

Reply to sparkyshark

Even the very cheap HD 4350 is fine for flash games (and everything else you listed)

Ati designs the HD4350, TSMC manufacture the GPU (graphics processing unit) chips and PCB's, and AIB (Add in board) company's stick there own cooler (sometimes) and sticker on the card and then ship the graphics cards to retailers.

So you get several AIB company's selling basically the same card, with some changes like the cooling and apperance, and also included bundle (accessories) and warranty period length.

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Reply to omgitzfatal

i'd rather opt for nVidia options before the lower end hd4550 or below..

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Reply to malmental

i would recommend this. HD5570 is a great htpc card

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/199415

i guess a cheaper HD5550 is also good for your use.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/219705

Reply to infernox_01
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The HD4350 will be fine for your purposes.

Reply to jyjjy

it's crap..

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Reply to malmental

Whats crap... ? & which nVidia options?

I wanted to order 1 today ready for the weekend. But the way this is going its not going to be the case :(


Message edited by sparkyshark on 11-04-2010 at 03:52:23 PM
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the hd4350 is crap even for your lesser card requirements.

 

ATi options that seemed to be approved of:
£32.43 PowerColor Go! Green AX5450 512MK3-SH Radeon HD 5450 / HDMI YES
£34.99 HIS ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB GDDR3 SILENT / HDMI YES

 

a nVidia option which runs slightly better than the ATi but only has DX10 and not DX11 like ATi is: nVidia GT240 DDR5 512MB version HDMI
DX11 nVidia equal is GT430 DDR3 HDMI but performs slightly less than the other.
GT430 is also about equal to the ATi 54xx models.


Message edited by malmental on 11-04-2010 at 04:13:33 PM
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well according to this they are in the same tier. the gt430 is 2 tiers below the gt240 gddr5.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 782-7.html

Reply to infernox_01

Ok. I think I'm just going to go with the http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] subcat=168

Way too many options. Before I crack... Any last thoughts. Looking at £40.13 Delivered. The GT430 & GT420 are far more expensive. The PC was only £90.

Reply to sparkyshark

From what I can tell the P/S is just over 200Watt so that will also play a factor.

Reply to sparkyshark

slightly a factor yes.
HP power supplies are average at best.
but to give you some confidence, I'm looking at a HP/Compaq Presario Media Center at my feet right now, model sr2030nx with 220 or 240 watt psu.
i just closed the case so i don't remember w/o looking again.
anyways, i just upgraded the unit for this single mom and her high school daughter.
I up it with full RAM set and an AMD Windsor class Athlon 64x2 5000+ (2.6ghz).
that cpu right there was more powerful than the original cpu so it requires more power;
I had an extra evga 8600gt 512mb card laying around and gave it too them
and found a cheap second monitor for them because they saw my multi-displays and like them. I'm also a sucker for single moms but that's another story...;)
bottom line is that the HP power supply (200-240 watt) is powering the rig nicely including video with both 19" monitors.
the requirements for the 8600gt state a minimum of 300watt system.
i have proof of this right here and now.

 

you can run a 300watt system required card on your system now.


Message edited by malmental on 11-04-2010 at 06:26:00 PM
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So is it worth paying the extra £10 for the "his" or just stick with the cheaper http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] subcat=938

Cool re P/S. Man this is a whole new ball game for me. I'm sure when I get it whatever I'll be happy with it. Luckily i'm not into or have time for games.

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sparkyshark wrote :

So is it worth paying the extra £10 for the "his" or just stick with the cheaper http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] subcat=938

Cool re P/S. Man this is a whole new ball game for me. I'm sure when I get it whatever I'll be happy with it. Luckily i'm not into or have time for games.


i'd pay the extra $10 for 'his', your selection is crap..

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Reply to malmental

You keep saying its Crap but not saying why its crap!

Its very capable of playing flash games and watching HD video and thats what the OP wants, so it isn't crap is it.

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Reply to omgitzfatal

OK, i get it..
it is less of a performing card than the others.
and if your even thinking about gaming even at lower settings then you need a slightly better card for any chance.
I once owned a HD4350 and the video even got distorted when in full screen mode.
the specs for that system were :
dell optiplex gx280
p4 3.6ghz ht enabled
3GB ddr2 667
hd4350
160gb seagate barracuda 7200 rpm
samsung dvd+/-rw 22x
he hd4350 damn near killed any performance.
and that was a higher clocked single core, imagine the 'bottleneck'
it will cause with even a slightly better system.
ran it with xp sp3 and win7 to get the WEI scores. (WEI) is 'very questionable at best' but that's another thread.

 


Message edited by malmental on 11-04-2010 at 07:41:11 PM
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here just go with one of these and be done with it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150322
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261084

 

this one here....!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161342


Message edited by malmental on 11-04-2010 at 06:52:08 PM
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Looking at £70.49 + Del. Seems to be a US model. No HDMI. XFX PVT95GZAFG GeForce 9500 GT 1GB
Looking at £52.59 All IN Palit NEAT4300FHD01 GeForce GT 430
Can't find this model in the UK. HIS Silence H557HR1G Radeon HD 5570. Though Radeon HD 5570 is around £70

Got to watch the budget.... The consensus seems to be the other models which are cheaper will do the job. However you seem to be dead against it and I'm guessing this is probably due to experience.

Is it defo worth going for the £52.59 model over all the others...? So much for a simple answer, must admit the thread has made me laugh at times.

Reply to sparkyshark

enjoy bro..

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Reply to malmental

I've given up lol, I'm not argueing with malmental anymore. Enjoy your card, whatever you decide to buy. :)

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sparkyshark wrote :

The consensus seems to be the other models which are cheaper will do the job. However you seem to be dead against it and I'm guessing this is probably due to experience.


It's because he doesn't know what he is talking about and should be ignored. Even current onboard video can do what you want. Listening to this guy is only going to leave you with less money.

Reply to jyjjy

See below...


Message edited by sparkyshark on 11-04-2010 at 09:12:50 PM
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i would say if your budget is around £50, either go for that GT430 or go for this sapphire HD4650 ddr2 for £41.48

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176023



Reply to infernox_01

Such a difference of opinion's... F.S. :( I could of bought the latest top of the range card with the amount of time I've wasted researching the cards.... lol


Message edited by sparkyshark on 11-04-2010 at 09:22:10 PM
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infernox_01 wrote :

i would say if your budget is around £50, either go for that GT430 or go for this sapphire HD4650 ddr2 for £41.48

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176023


He isn't gaming and his budget is as low as possible to handle HD video well. That means the HD4350. He will gain absolutely nothing by getting an HD4650 and if he goes for the GT 430 he will be paying over twice as much for some features he hasn't even hinted at needing like 3D bluray if he happens to have the drive/glasses for such.

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jyjjy wrote :

He isn't gaming and his budget is as low as possible to handle HD video well. That means the HD4350. He will gain absolutely nothing by getting an HD4650 and if he goes for the GT 430 he will be paying over twice as much for some features he hasn't even hinted at needing like 3D bluray if he happens to have the drive/glasses for such.



Thank you! someone with some common sense! :hello:

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Reply to omgitzfatal

all just opinions and/or suggestions, it always to each is own.
regardless I want you to enjoy your system and wish you no problems with whatever card.
some people like these while others might like those and for several different reasons.
hence the word, forum..
i personally just like to bring the different points of view and the intelligence to prove it.
it's about learning and even though I'm a certified tech, I learn and have learned so much here.
i'm just an ass some-days I can't smoke... :ange:

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