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January 3, 2011 4:50:12 PM

I currently have an Asus P5QPro/wolfdale e8500 3.0ghz 4gb Ram, with crossfired Radeon 4850's. Im going to be using my HAF930 case, and 900w ps.

Its time to upgrade to at least a Quad core. I don't need cutting edge, but I want to be good for awhile. Mainly playing Black ops at 1920 and want to max out. Would like to go with NVIDIA this time, as Im tired of ATI.

What would be a good combo at a decent price point? AMD or Intel fine, as long as it gets the job done. Ready to hit Newegg once I have some info.

1. MB - ?
2. CPU ?
3. Mem currently Mushkin DII800 - do I need new memory?
3. NVIDIA Video card ?

Thanks!
January 3, 2011 10:49:17 PM

anyone that can offer some insight?
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January 4, 2011 12:03:48 AM

how much do you want to spend?
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January 4, 2011 1:52:04 AM

As little as possible, but I dont want to sacrifice too much. I know thats always the dilmena. 600-700 maybe?

Im actually now thinking about just getting a mb/cpu/memory for now as I think that may buy me some time with my crossfired 4850's until I come up with some more cash for a new Gfx card.

Evga X58 I7, or maybe an AMD Phenom?
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January 4, 2011 3:25:14 AM

On the cheap:

motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 282.96


On the beefier side:

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 529.97

Honestly, you will want/need an aftermarket cpu cooler. The stock ones AMD puts with their processors sound like a B52 hovering in your case.

These are great suggestions (there are many more too besides these)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have two of the 2nd one and it works great. You will just need to make sure you have room in your pc case. What case do you have?

If you decide to go with the ASUS Crosshair and you feel comfortable spending a little more, you could get this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I understand you can SLI or Crossfire with this motherboard and that will give you more options on what cards to get when you decide to upgrade...
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January 4, 2011 3:39:16 AM

CoolerMaster HAF 932, plenty of room.
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January 4, 2011 3:41:28 AM

That case is begging for the beefier hardware, lol!
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January 4, 2011 3:44:49 AM

Sorry, not SLI. It lets you use different cards from different vendors, obviously all ATI. But nonetheless, still attractive...
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2011 4:24:07 AM

O.o Why buy this now with the launch of Sandy Bridge on the brink. The prices are really great looking as well. An article is on the forum front page and the benches look great. Soo... I think that that'd be your to your benefit to wait.

Also the Hyper 212+ is a great buy, but from Newegg not really since shipping is expensive. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh...
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January 4, 2011 10:03:28 AM

Last night that was free shipping. It obviously changed at midnight. It's not a bad idea to wait if you have the patience. Your system isn't that bad so there's really no reason you have to buy right now but even if you do buy right now you will be good for a while to come.

You can always wait to see whats around the corner but as you know there will always be something better to come out to dwarf your system. You would probably still need to wait even after sandy bridge comes out since they are releasing lower to mid range chips in the beginning anyway.

Its a double sided sword...

Also... the memory just went on sale so they shifted the prices to cover the sale obviously:

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/jan-0-2011/newyear...
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2011 10:49:07 AM

2500K is/will be $217 or so? GTX570! Plus a mb and mem...

You will be overbudget, but, I think it's a very solid single GPU rig...
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January 4, 2011 2:55:40 PM

Should I use the AMD (beefier setup) as listed above by ENG, or would this be a better bet for money?
For now I would be using my 2 ATI 4850's, maybe upgrade to GTX570 in a couple months.

EVGA X58 FTW3 132-GT-E768-KR LGA 1366 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...


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a b B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2011 5:51:30 PM

don't get an i7-950 x58 steup when Sandy Bridge is faster and less expensive
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January 4, 2011 6:06:29 PM

I cant wait for SB, and no idea when its actually going to be available for me to buy. I really need something now as my current setup isn't cutting it for what I spend 90% of my time doing.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2011 6:10:09 PM

It'll be availble to buy *monday* Just a week away. you can hang on that long, I hope?
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January 4, 2011 7:30:31 PM

When u are on the pc day in and day out, a week seems like forever.

The intel 950 would be a solid choice. I personally prefer the AMD hexacore if you plan to make the system last for as long as possible. The 950 is faster clock for clock but you have more cores on the AMD rig for future proofing. I say this because I remember all the arguments that used to be had about a faster clocked dual core CPU was better for gaming than a slower quad. Now everyone is going quad because more and more games are taking advantage of the third & fourth core. I believe this wil eventually become the norm with 6 or more cores in the near future.

You will be happy either way but I favor more cores even if it's slightly slower clock for clock.

Ultimately you have to decide based on how long u plan to use it and how long u want it to last for multitasking and multithreaded apps...
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2011 10:11:51 PM

Are you seriously saying that you have no idea if SB will available to you? Your talking about Newegg. SB comes out in like 5 days. I'm suprised your not willing to wait and save some money. =P I mean the 950 is a good choice, but with SB coming with better efficiency and lower power consumption for better performance I don't see how it hurts to wait 5 days? Also your rig can surely run for 5 more days? What on earth are you running that a e8500 can run right now? Other than black ops. The CF 4850 should be plenty of graphics power (or at least enough) and the e8500 isn't a bad CPU.

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January 5, 2011 2:02:17 PM

a I didnt realize the SB stuff was gonna hit the shelves/sites that fast. I can definitely wait for that. I wasn't even aware of the what SB actually was until yesterday, just figured it would be the newest and most expensive tech that i cant afford. Im totally out of the hardware loop.

What do you guys who know the SB stuff recommend as a good mb/cpu/ram combo?
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 5, 2011 2:26:40 PM

hard to say without pricing.

If yuo plan to use an external video card, you wan the P67 series, which comes with 2 PCIe-16 or 3 PCI-16 (16x/4x or 16 solo, 8x/8x duel and a 4x). and 2-4 SATA 3 slots. Places like Superbiiz has the mobos on sale for as little as $96 for the most basic models (1 16x), and $176 up to $326 for one with 8x/8x.

I'd love to see one with 8x/8x and no 4x along the line of the ASRock extreme 3 870 for AMD, but none appear to be on the market right now.

If you plan to do Crossfire, you could get by with that $176 model, and if not, the $96 model

$176: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P8P67PR&tit...

$96: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P8H67LE&tit...
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January 5, 2011 2:35:39 PM

I see anzshinobis point and agree to wait a few days but you will need to wait a couple of days more after the release to see what people post about their benchmark comparrison results to the current offerings.

Also, bulldozer is coming too. I think you should overclock your CPU to the max and let bulldozer hit the market and see how they force intel to reduce their prices.

It really stinks to pay 299 for a CPU to see it 6 months down the road for 229 after they reduce their prices to counter new releases.

You can easily hit 3.8 to 4.0ghz on your CPU. What speed are you running now?...
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January 5, 2011 4:22:47 PM

im just running stock, never got into the overclocking. I even thought about getting a quad and fan for my board q6600 or something like that, but the damn chip isn't much cheaper than the much better new ones out there. My main problem is with BO, and its what i do most of the time. Everyone I speak to says moving up to quad core fixed any issues they were having.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
January 5, 2011 7:34:35 PM

If you don't OC then a i5 2500 is good enough or a i5 2400 since you don't need the unlocked multiplier specially since your not an OCer. As for GPU's, a single 6950 would be the most cost effective at that resolution. Unlock that to a 6970 (no need to overclock) and you have yourself a great card. Or wait for the 560 and see where the performance of that lands. It should be between a 6950 and 5870. But that's just a guess.
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January 5, 2011 7:35:40 PM

You have a 25% performance increase hidden in your current hardware with only spending apprx 30-50 bucks on a nice aftermarket CPU cooler.

It would be totally wrong not to overclock that chip and see if it can get you by for a bit longer to see what the higher end SB & Bulldozer tech brings to the table.

If you overclock, you could get by another year easily.
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January 5, 2011 7:40:26 PM

Good luck actually getting an SB processor on Monday. They aren't going to last. Especially the i5-2600k
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
January 5, 2011 7:44:47 PM

^ Go on at 12:01 and buy it. Oh btw Correction it should be i7-2600K. Not i5-2600K. You are thinking about the i5 2500K
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January 5, 2011 7:48:50 PM

I agree with goatsword. Supplies will likely be limited and not last long. Don't be afraid to overclock your CPU. Any of us will help you...
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January 5, 2011 8:08:31 PM

If you are planning to spend ~$200 on a CPU, there is exactly 0 reason not to get the i5-2500K when they release. The extra $11 or so is chump change when you consider you get an unlocked multiplier. Even if you don't plan on OCing now, once you read just how easy it is to OC the new SB K chips you will want to OC them.

Since you will want the K series i5 for the unlocked multiplier, you will NOT want to get any mobo with the H67 chipset because that chipset does not allow you to OC the CPU via the multiplier. You want the P67 chipset, period. The H67 allows you to use the integrated graphics in the CPU, but nobody that plays any games will be using integrated graphics.

If you want to stick with NVidia GPUs, I would recommend the 460 1GB, 470, 570, or 580, depending on how much you want to spend. They are all great GPUs for the money, though the 580 is likely a bit of overkill. A system built around an i5-2500K and a GTX 570 would be a pretty high end rig for a very reasonable price.

Get a nice 650W PSU from someone like Corsair, 4-8GB of decent RAM, and you will be golden.

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January 6, 2011 6:17:58 PM

I'd be willing to bet that your E8500 OC'd to 4.0ghz paired with an EVGA 570 would outperform any SB setup paired with your old 4850's. There's a few CPU intensive games it would lose to but that's a minimal scenario.

Then you wait for more intel offerings and te release of Bulldozer and see what the comparison reviews say and choose from that. I think that would be the smarter move right now.

You will have a more powerful temporary upgrade and you will have a wider selection with better prices for the final upgrade later down the road.

if you had an older gen CPU I'd agree with the CPU upgrade now but the E8500 is still a powerful CPU even by today's standards...
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
January 6, 2011 11:54:43 PM

Well according to AMD Bulldozer = i7's so with that said (if AMD isn't boasting Scorpius) then it should reach the Sandy Bridges level. The only thing is if it'll have the same effiency and low power consumption. The 1100T consumes more power than a single 2600K when the 2600K performs = or even better to the 1100T that's pretty bad. An OC'd X6 is just really power consuming.
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January 12, 2011 5:34:38 PM

Overclocking the dual core didn't get the job done, still had issues. cpu/mem combo just wasn't doing it.

I waited and ordered the SB stuff on the Sunday night before Monday release from Newegg:

Core I72600k, Asus P8P67 Deluxe, Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)

Still using my x2 HD4850's, all games all maxed out, smooth sailing. Thanks all.
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January 12, 2011 6:29:42 PM

Sweet! Go sell your old stuff on ebay to get some money back or make a super nice HTPC!

Great to hear you got what you needed, enjoy!
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 12, 2011 7:53:58 PM

congrats
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