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January 4, 2011 6:21:33 AM

Before I begin... yes I know that I can build by own for cheaper, but I don't have the a) time b) manual dexterity, and c) money in case I screw something up. I'd rather have it built and tested for me, and I've used AVAdirect for my last PC and I plan on using them again. My first question is has anyone had any experience with them recently? My last PC purchase from them was in 2007. More importantly though, I'm looking for some advice on a build from them. My budget is no more then $875 or so including shipping. So the build itself should be no more then $840. I plan on using it primarily for gaming, but I'm not looking for the ability to play at super high resolutions. My monitor only supports 1280x1024 and I might hook it up to my HDTV and play at 720p. Here's what I've come up with so far.

# COOLER MASTER, Centurion 5 II Black/Silver Mid-Tower Computer Case w/ Window, ATX, No PSU, Steel/Aluminum/Plastic

# OCZ, StealthXStream 2 Power Supply, 600W, 80 PLUS®, 24-pin ATX12V v2.2 EPS12V, 1x 6-pin + 1x 8/6-pin PCIe, Retail (this I'm not really sure about at all... other then 80 plus being important)

# ASUS, M4A87TD EVO, AM3, AMD® 870, DDR3-2000 (O.C.) 16GB /4, PCIe x16 CF /2, SATA 6 Gb/s RAID 5 /6, USB 3.0 /2, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail

# AMD, Phenom™ II X4 955 Quad-Core 3.2GHz, AM3, HT 4000MHz, 4x 512KB L2 + 6MB L3 cache, 125W, 45nm, Black Edition, Retail

# CRUCIAL, 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC3-10600 DDR3 1333MHz CL9 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC

# EVGA, GeForce® GTX 460 Superclocked (TR) 763MHz, 768MB GDDR5 3800MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, mini-HDMI, Retail

# SEAGATE, 1TB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 32MB cache

# SONY, AD-7261S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA, OEM

# MICROSOFT, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition, OEM

This costs $820 before shipping. I know I can build this myself for cheaper but as I said, I'm not willing to right now. Is this a decent build, and if not what should I change? TIA...
January 4, 2011 7:22:36 AM

Looks good, can you reuse anything from your old PC? DVD drive, HDD?
January 4, 2011 3:55:51 PM

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Looks good, can you reuse anything from your old PC? DVD drive, HDD?


I plan on giving my old PC to my mom, so no...

Is the PSU okay... I was also looking at the Antec Earthwatts (either 500w or 650w) or the Corsair CX600...
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January 4, 2011 4:48:19 PM

Antec is better. A better video card if you plan a full HD monitor.
January 4, 2011 5:05:12 PM

MB - That Asus board is fine, but if you are considering multiple GPUs down the road, then get a board with two PCIe @ 8x/8x. That M4A87TD board is 16x/4x and that 4x on the second GPU will perform badly.

PSU - +1 on an Antec PSU.

HDD - Consider the Samsung Spinpoint F3 before the Seagate Barracuda.
January 4, 2011 5:14:04 PM

mosox said:
Antec is better. A better video card if you plan a full HD monitor.


Actually, at 1280 x1024, the 460 is a waste. I suggest you save some money and go with the 275. The only reasons to get a 460 would be:


1) DX11
2) Lower heat production due to less wattage used
3) The GTX460 can OC better than a GTX275, esp. since it has voltage control whereas the 275 doesn't. It also has better OC scaling (each % increase in clocks yields a higher % increase in fps).
4) GTX460 gives you more memory.

If any of the above aren't driving points, you will get roughly the same performance in real world scenarios. Check the charts.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_46...
January 4, 2011 5:14:27 PM

I would get a different GPU. either get the 1GB version of the 460 or the 6850. Also, change the power supply to something from antec, corsair, xigmatek, seasonic, or the rosewill green series
January 4, 2011 5:41:39 PM

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 II Black Mid-Tower Computer Case w/ Window, ATX, No PSU, Steel/Aluminum/Plastic

ANTEC EarthWatts EA500, 80 PLUS®, 500W, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, Two 6-pin PCIe

ASUS M4A87TD EVO, AM3, AMD® 870, DDR3-2000 (O.C.) 16GB /4, PCIe x16 CF /2, SATA 6 Gb/s RAID 5 /6, USB 3.0 /2, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail

AMD Phenom™ II X4 955 Quad-Core 3.2GHz, AM3, HT 4000MHz, 4x 512KB L2 + 6MB L3 cache, 125W, 45nm, Black Edition, Retail

CRUCIAL 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC3-10600 DDR3 1333MHz CL9 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC

XFX Radeon™ HD 6850 775MHz, 1GB GDDR5 4000MHz, PCIe x16 CrossFire, DVI /2, HDMI, DP, Retail

SAMSUNG 1TB SpinPoint F3, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200-RPM, 32MB Cache, Retail

SONY AD-7261S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA, OEM

MICROSOFT Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition, OEM

WARRANTY Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)

$844.49 before shipping
January 4, 2011 8:37:32 PM

Thanks for all your responses...

I definitely don't agree with going down to a gtx275... I want dx11 and some degree of future proofing.

I looked at the 6850 but I've never liked ATI cards.. they always seem to have driver related issues... Is the pefrormance really that much better then the gtx460?

As far as the psu... I like the antec. But I'm not sure if 500w is good enough for future upgrades...
January 4, 2011 9:03:32 PM

6850 = GTX 460/1GB (stock card) and faster than the 460/768MB. What GTX 460/1GB cards are in there?
January 5, 2011 12:16:23 AM

The two cards trade blows depending on what game you're playing. also, what upgrades are you planning. 500W is enough for anything except SLI in which case, you can't use anyways because that board doesn't support it and if you were going to do crossfire, that board isn't good anyways because it is only x16/x4 and you need at least x8/x8. If you are going to do SLI, 650W should be plenty. AMD cards use less power so you could probably get away with 550-600 with two 6850's
January 5, 2011 5:27:01 PM

I don't plan on doing SLI/crossfire, but I'll probably be upgrading the video card a couple years down the road. I'm assuming that the trend is toward less power consumption anyway... so if 500w will be good for single gpu systems in the next few years then that'll work...
January 6, 2011 4:07:54 AM

Get a better PSU if it's in your budget.
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