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January 4, 2011 1:44:03 PM

Hi, I am going to buy a new pc soon. Mainly for gaming and to run 3d studio max. I dont have much knowledge as this is my first build. I live in India so the prices of the components are different in my country. Here's what I have thought so far:-

CPU - AMD Phenom 2 X4 955
Mobo - gigabyte 880GM UD2H
RAM - Kingston/corsair 2x2 gb DDR3 1600mhz
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1TB
GPU - HD 6850 or HD 6870 (I will get 6870 if price drops)
CASE - NZXT Gamma
PSU - Corsair vx450
Overclock - Maybe (Only the GPU tho)
Crossfire - No

I am not sure about the PSU. Someone suggested me Corsair vx450 for HD 6850. Is that enough? how much power will be required if I get HD 6870 instead?

Thanks.

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January 4, 2011 1:53:38 PM

Solid midrange bulid. If you get the HD 6870 it'll hold, but barely.
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January 4, 2011 1:57:14 PM

pushing that PSU with the power - hungry AMD CPU and the 6870 - Will probably hold at first but as the psu deteriorates with time it won't

Go for 600w plus I'd say - for future peace of mind.

Also get a Sandy bridge CPU - the 2500k is so much better that your AMD
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January 4, 2011 1:58:30 PM

fruees said:
pushing that PSU with the power - hungry AMD CPU and the 6870 - Will probably hold at first but as the psu deteriorates with time it won't

Go for 600w plus I'd say - for future peace of mind.

Also get a Sandy bridge CPU - the 2500k is so much better that your AMD


I was 'bout to say that, but he may be on a tight budget.
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January 4, 2011 2:22:22 PM

Hey im also from India :) 
If your son is into 3d designing ( more cpu intensive) and some gaming, i suggest u go for the Phenom II X6 which has 6 cores compared to your 4 cores and is a little more future proof, u could even over clock it to 4 ghz with your 1600 mhz RAM ( which is a good choice)
http://techshop.in/store/phenom-1055t-processor-buy-onl...

And its about Rs.10,000 which is just 2,000 more than the 955
The Nvidia gtx 470 is on par with the 6850 and is available for about 15,000
But the only draw back is that it consumes more power (about 50-60 W more)
i trust only Nvidia for gaming so i prefer it.

And for ur mother board go for the
http://techshop.in/store/gigabyte-ga880gmusb3-motherboa...
which is the same series as u have selected above but this one has USB 3.0 which is upcoming in the near future and its only 500 rupees more
Rest all seems fine

Edit: i forgot to mention, if u have plans to overclock your PC quite a bit then i also suggest
http://techshop.in/store/cooler-master-hyper-plus-rrb10...
( I have used it, so im sure it works well)
Lastly don't order from that website above, its just crappy with delivery. I just use it for reference.
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January 4, 2011 2:50:49 PM

Yes I am on a tight budget. Wouldn't a 500w be enough?
@fruees: have sandy bridge processors launched and aren't/won't they be more expensive? Coz that will increase my budget further.

@sync_nine: Hi, first who said I am getting this pc for my son? lol....its for myself.
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January 4, 2011 3:02:30 PM

sync_nine said:
Hey im also from India :) 
If your son is into 3d designing ( more cpu intensive) and some gaming, i suggest u go for the Phenom II X6 which has 6 cores compared to your 4 cores and is a little more future proof, u could even over clock it to 4 ghz with your 1600 mhz RAM ( which is a good choice)
http://techshop.in/store/phenom-1055t-processor-buy-onl...

And its about Rs.10,000 which is just 2,000 more than the 955
The Nvidia gtx 470 is on par with the 6850 and is available for about 15,000
But the only draw back is that it consumes more power (about 50-60 W more)
i trust only Nvidia for gaming so i prefer it.

And for ur mother board go for the
http://techshop.in/store/gigabyte-ga880gmusb3-motherboa...
which is the same series as u have selected above but this one has USB 3.0 which is upcoming in the near future and its only 500 rupees more
Rest all seems fine

Edit: i forgot to mention, if u have plans to overclock your PC quite a bit then i also suggest
http://techshop.in/store/cooler-master-hyper-plus-rrb10...
( I have used it, so im sure it works well)
Lastly don't order from that website above, its just crappy with delivery. I just use it for reference.



... and the Phenom II X6 loses badly to the i7 2600K which is also 300$. It'll hit the shells in the upcoming days, + it has HT, another reason to buy it over the PII X6.

And yes a 500W PSU will be enough for the HD 6870 BUT make sure that you buy PSU form one of the following: Corsair, Antec, XFX or CM Silent Pro series.
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January 4, 2011 3:03:12 PM

Sorry Yaar, i kind of mis read it as i was in a hurry :) 
Coming back to the point

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/10/22/at...

States that the 6850 consumes 230 W at max + 125 W from the CPU= 355W +50W (HDD+DVD etc) = 405W

500W should be fine, but make sure its from a good company, or it might not provide enough power.
And i think sandy bridge will take like another 2 weeks i think to be fully launched in India.....Intel is better no doubt but its outside your budget.
but in my opinion go for the nvidia gpu, 6850 and 470 are almost the same price
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January 4, 2011 3:11:40 PM

sync_nine said:
Sorry Yaar, i kind of mis read it as i was in a hurry :) 
Coming back to the point

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/10/22/at...

States that the 6850 consumes 230 W at max + 125 W from the CPU= 355W +50W (HDD+DVD etc) = 405W

500W should be fine, but make sure its from a good company, or it might not provide enough power.
And i think sandy bridge will take like another 2 weeks i think to be fully launched in India.....Intel is better no doubt but its outside your budget.
but in my opinion go for the nvidia gpu, 6850 and 470 are almost the same price


What Nvidia GPU?? The GTX470? You'll need a 600W Corsair minimum for that power hungry GPU :) 
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January 4, 2011 3:16:24 PM

2242208,7,425380 said:
... and the Phenom II X6 loses badly to the i7 2600K which is also 300$. It'll hit the shells in the upcoming days, + it has HT, another reason to buy it over the PII X6.

Phenom II X6 1055T = 10,000/ 45= $222
Mother board = 6000/45 = $133
Total = $355

Intel i7 950 = 14000/45 = $311
Mother board = 12500/45 = $277
Total = $588

In rupee term thats Rs.26,500 which already exceeds his budget lol

So tell me which one is cheaper?

http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6-1055t-1090t-...
AMD already beats most i7 products in its range

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January 4, 2011 3:20:23 PM

unknown_13 said:
What Nvidia GPU?? The GTX470? You'll need a 600W Corsair minimum for that power hungry GPU :) 


That calculation was based on 6850, not 470. Check the link before posting mate. The last part of the sentence was just my opinion. And yes you will need a 600W psu for the 470, which i already use.
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January 4, 2011 3:26:46 PM

@unknown_13: OK i will get corsair vs500. But Will that be sufficient if I OC HD 6870?BTW is it possible to OC just the GPU? Will I need any extra fan or something? :) 

@sync_nine: Yes I am waiting for sandy bridge to launch in India. I don't know much about them but I guess other processors will become cheaper when SBs releases.

Also can you guys tell me if I can use 2x2x2x2 (8gb) of ram on this motherboard?
Thanks
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January 4, 2011 4:13:30 PM

Aryaink said:
@unknown_13: OK i will get corsair vs500. But Will that be sufficient if I OC HD 6870?BTW is it possible to OC just the GPU? Will I need any extra fan or something? :) 

@sync_nine: Yes I am waiting for sandy bridge to launch in India. I don't know much about them but I guess other processors will become cheaper when SBs releases.

Also can you guys tell me if I can use 2x2x2x2 (8gb) of ram on this motherboard?
Thanks


Yes that PSU'll handle the OC, but don't go too hard on it.
And belive me, it'll be worth the wait for Sandy Bridge. BTW the mobos won't cost that much and Sandy Bridge utilizes dual-channel DDR3 opposite of triple-channel DDR3 on the X58 platform (which is pure waste)

Still, if not the i7 2600K i'd get the i5 2500K, Sandy Bridge has a much better architecture that PII X4/X6 and is very efficient. Plus that, these "K" parts are unlocked, and they OC very easily.
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January 5, 2011 11:37:52 AM

On some other forum two ppl had to say this:

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But keep in mind that a 6870 requires 2 6pin PCIE connectors whereas the V450 has only one. So you might be needing one of those molex to pcie adapter if you go for a 6870.


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Personlly i'd just get the S12II 500W and be done with it. Its +12V rail is very stable and has plenty of cables/connectors. Its a little more expensive at 4.3k but worth it IMO


What do you guys think about Seasonic S12II500W? Does corsair vx500W has all these cables,connectors,etc?
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January 5, 2011 11:38:37 AM

Aryaink said:
On some other forum two ppl had to say this:

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But keep in mind that a 6870 requires 2 6pin PCIE connectors whereas the V450 has only one. So you might be needing one of those molex to pcie adapter if you go for a 6870.


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Personlly i'd just get the S12II 500W and be done with it. Its +12V rail is very stable and has plenty of cables/connectors. Its a little more expensive at 4.3k but worth it IMO


What do you guys think about Seasonic S12II500W? Does corsair vx500W has all these cables,connectors,etc?


It's a good PSU. Get it.
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January 5, 2011 12:32:32 PM

@unknown_13: ok thanks.
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