thanks john, I wiggled the batt. and christian. I removed the memory, and during these processes had to remove the power cord. Now, it has taken the reinstallation cd and is booting it. so, I thank you all and appreciate all the time you have taken to help me. I could not have done it with out you all. Thanks a million. As for you joker, go to hell. I know its junk, and they all know its junk, so quit trying to make yourself look smart,you aint!