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January 6, 2011 6:24:55 AM

Hey I was wanting some advice on this prebuilt cyber power pc:
Approximate Purchase Date: next week
Budget Range: 500-650
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, internet, movies
Parts Not Required: OS
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: i like newegg, but I will use other places.
Country of Origin: US.
Parts Preferences: don't really care, I do like having usb 3.0 included though
Overclocking: maybe, if it's really easy
SLI or Crossfire: no

Cyber build system:
CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 925 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+20]
Cooling Fan: * Thermaltake V1 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan (Excellent Overclocking + Silent Proof + Smart CPU & System Thermal Monitor) [+13]
Motherboard: ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AMD 770 Chipset Hardware Core Unlocker DDR3 Socket AM3 ATX w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-II, RAID, 1 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI
Memory: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+43] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
Multiple Video Card Settings: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
Power Supply Upgrade: 500 Watts - Standard Case Power Supply [+22]
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+22] (Single Hard Drive)
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BEIGE COLOR)
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Speakers: 600Watts PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
Price:$671

I can get windows 7 for free so I'm not worried about an OS. I was also planning on picking up this lcd monitor from newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....

So how does the cpu compare with core i3/i5's. It seems to be better than i3's and comparable to i5's, but i'm not sure.

I want to do some basic gaming on it, maybe play black ops on it. Price wise this is a little expensive, I would prefer something around $600 but I'm not too picky.

I would put this in the cyber power forum, but I really don't care where I get a pc from. Is cyberpower a poor builder?

Also, would I save money building this myself? I've been told that I would not save a lot, and I am wanting to purchase a computer soon, but it might be fun building one myself.

Any recommendations?

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January 6, 2011 7:26:14 AM

first: that motherboard is not very good.

second: that graphics card is useless in gaming, specially in a game like black obs

what is the name of the case and power supply?? a bad power supply, could basicly ruin your pc.

i I were you I would asc this forum, to set up a build with a budget of 600$ that way you don't get screwed like you often do with prebuilt systems



or take a look at this article
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overcloc...

and finally. No you won't save any money building your self, but you will get a PC much more powerfull and built for YOUR needs
January 6, 2011 7:41:43 AM

Weak GPU for gaming. Your link has been deactivated, but looking at the similar things your looking for a 19"ish monitor with a 1440x900 or 800 res? The 5670 will handle that ok for older games, but the big ones of today will make it cry.

As always you can get a better deal if you make it yourself. $600 or so is about the spot where you can do a lot better.
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January 6, 2011 7:57:54 AM
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Oh my suggestion: taken from newegg

Motherboard Asrock 870 extrme 3 109.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu: AMD Athlon II X3 455 Rana 3.3GHz 89.99$:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 179.99@
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

harddrive: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB 39.99$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec 300 59.95$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: Corsair 550W 64.99$:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

optics: Lite-On's iHAS 124-04 15.99$:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total 616 + shipping from newegg

if you don't overclock the stock cooler for the cpu i good enough.

January 6, 2011 1:04:32 PM

rambostyrer's build is nice but for $10 more, I would get the Athlon II 640 which gives you a quad core.

If you want to purchase a prebuilt system, unless you are overclocking, get rid of the cooler. The processor will come with one that will work fine. Try to upgrade your graphics card to at least a 5770. If you have to, drop down to an athlon II 640 instead of the phenom. It's the same processor just without the L3 cache. Yes the L3 cache is better for gaming but with your current system, the limiting point is the graphics card. An Athlon 640 and 5770 will give you a more balanced system.
January 6, 2011 1:16:10 PM

CAS: NZXT M59 Gaming Mid-Tower Case with See-Thru Window [-36]

CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

CPU: AMD Athlon™II X4 640 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology

FAN: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK [-20]

FLASHMEDIA: None [-3]

FLOPPY: None

FREEGAME_VC02: FREE! (Stormrise) Game

HDD: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)

KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard

MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AMD 770 Chipset Hardware Core Unlocker DDR3 Socket AM3 ATX w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-II, RAID, 1 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI

MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

POWERSUPPLY: 500 Watts - Sigma SP-500AB ESP 80 Plus Power Supply [+26]

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

SPEAKERS: 600Watts PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers

USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+90] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)

Total = $642
January 6, 2011 3:49:34 PM

Ok, thanks for the advice jedi940 and rambostyrer. I think I like rambostyrer's build suggestion. So here's what I was thinking of:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...
Any other advice? Also whats the likely hood of successfully unlocking the fourth core on the amd x3, or should I just stick with the 640?

Edit: also, is there any easy and cheap way to use the dvd burner and wifi antenna from an old laptop?
Edit2: Ok, the wishlist should be public now.
January 6, 2011 4:01:38 PM

Can't access your secure wishlist. I think you need to make it public first.

You will definitely get more performance from building it your self. That 6850 card will blow the 5770 away. Good luck building and ask any questions you might have. I think the chances of unlocking the 4th core are around 50/50. Don't buy the X3 expecting to unlock the 4th core. By it knowing you can live with 3 cores and if you can unlock the 4th, thats a great bonus. If you definitely want 4 cores, spend the extra $10 and get the 640. Personally, I would just by the 640 for the minimal cost difference.

As for using the dvd burner an wifi antenna from a laptop - I don't think it is possible. At least not easily - there wouldn't be an easy way to mount the dvd drive in your tower. The wifi is definitely a nogo.
January 6, 2011 7:19:59 PM

The MSI board should be fine for you.

1600 OC means that you will have to overclock the Ram to make it run at that frequency. Natively it will only run at 1333. Its as simple as adjusting the ram multiplier and voltage though. nothing too difficult.
January 7, 2011 6:47:02 AM

Just one note on your motherboard, it won't be any good in a crossfire, if that is something you would consider in the future.

Personally I wouldn't buy a cpu with only 2 cores, the Phenom is a faster cpu than an athlon, but only 2 cores could be a bottleneck in some applications and games.

ram with a 1600mhz isn't necessary. a 1333 kit like this would be plenty for your build.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 14, 2011 2:14:40 AM

Best answer selected by eestudent_95.
January 14, 2011 2:01:43 PM

Thanks all the advice,I've actually already purchased my components. I have one quick question. I accidently got a fingerprint on the bottom of my cpu heatsink where the cpu touches that. It should be fine after I put the thermal paste on, correct?
January 14, 2011 2:21:15 PM

No, wipe it off.
January 14, 2011 4:30:36 PM

use some rubbing alcohol and clean it. The oils in your fingerprint can have a negative effect on the thermal compound.
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