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Need Recomendations for GPU for Black Ops

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November 6, 2010 6:50:52 PM

Hello all.

So I am going to pickup a new graphics card next week when black ops is released(maybe even release night).

I have been barely running modern warefare 2 on a Acer as7720 lowest settings possible cause of its 8400M GS.


Now a have a newer desktop

Hp A6720y

Specs inlcude

Phenom x4 9550
integrated nvidia 9100
300W powersupply
Unused PCI express x16 slot
6gb of memory


So I am looking for a graphics card, either ATI or Nvidia that will allow me to play black ops on medium settings. My monitor supports 1280 x 800, but theres definately no need to go higher.

I need a recommendation for 2 scenarios. Both have to be on BestBuy's Website. Why, well i can return exchange if necessary plus I have access to employee discount. For the sake of $$ lets run on whatever price is advertised.

Scenario 1.
I Keep the 300w power supply, spending the minimal amount of money ($100 - $150, or less but i am not that cheap), and since i am used to playing COD MW2 on lowest settings, anything midrange would keep me happy.

Scenario 2.
I am willing to change the power supply, spend some more money on a graphics card (maybe 200 - 250 for both GPU and PS)
Be able to play COD 7 on good settings, and when COD 8 comes out, I won't have to re-upgrade.

So again, as long as its on BestBuy.com (even if it says Out of stock of whatever) if would help me greatly.

Scenario 1 seems to be the more realistic way. Except maybe 300w isnt even enough ?

Well In that case

Scenario 3.
Change Power Supply, spending no more than 175 on both GPU and PS and get decent settings on COD7.

I Figure if I have to change the powersupply why not go all out??

Thanks, all advice is apreciated.
November 6, 2010 7:49:56 PM

rolli59 said:
HD5670 is the most powerful card you can run with the current PSU.
A PSU and GPU upgrade could be something like this HD5770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Corsair 430watts http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Any higher GPU your processor is going to be the bottleneck.


5770 runs COD pretty well actually.

Except on BestBuy it would look like this.

Video Card:

VisionTek ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card

PSU (Option one if you get the bug and want to upgrade to a better GPU, option 2 if you want to keep it cheap)

Hotlinking to bestbuy is effin up.. Just go to best buy and copy this in.

Option 1: Thermaltake - 600W TR2 ATX Power Supply

Option 2: Thermaltake - 500W TR2 ATX Power Supply

For the extra 20 bucks I would go with the 600 Watt..
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a c 1410 U Graphics card
November 6, 2010 8:19:07 PM

Manufacturers power supply recommendation is based on GENERIC PSU's often rated at 10sec peak load. Quality PSU's are rated at continuous 100% load.
Actual total system load with HD5670 in an overclocked I7 920 system under gaming load is 212watts http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5550-rade...
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November 12, 2010 12:17:04 PM

And you assuming all with 300 watts PSUs are quality ones and they also have i7...
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November 12, 2010 12:36:07 PM

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And you assuming all with 300 watts PSUs are quality ones and they also have i7...

Yet were talking about a 5670 paired with a phenom processor, he said he may need to upgrade but for the most part, a 5670 should be able to run on a generic 300 watt psu, especially since the gpu doesn't require a 6 pin slot or greater. Anything better then a 5670 requires a 6 pin slot, and if a psu doesn't have a 6 pin slot to begin with, it isn't a good idea to use a 4 to 6pin connector.
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November 12, 2010 2:42:29 PM

Buy the 5770 and a new PSU. I have Sapphire vapor-x 5770 and i can play all COD at max details, max AA(16x) and max AF(16x or whatever it is) at 1920x1080. Can switch to 8x AA for best experience in CODBO. If you want a card that is a little faster buy the GTX460 768mb. The new PSu must be a 500w model form a quality brand so that you will not have any problems.
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November 12, 2010 4:34:38 PM

dalta centauri said:
Yet were talking about a 5670 paired with a phenom processor, he said he may need to upgrade but for the most part, a 5670 should be able to run on a generic 300 watt psu, especially since the gpu doesn't require a 6 pin slot or greater. Anything better then a 5670 requires a 6 pin slot, and if a psu doesn't have a 6 pin slot to begin with, it isn't a good idea to use a 4 to 6pin connector.


Yet i giving ATi official site and their recommendation will have more chances to play in a system that anyone else. All the other information we know it or we can find it in ATi, Nvidia web sites.

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a b U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 5:12:41 PM

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Yet i giving ATi official site and their recommendation will have more chances to play in a system that anyone else. All the other information we know it or we can find it in ATi, Nvidia web sites.

Did you know, a 5450 says it needs a 400w psu or greater, although the 4550 says it needs a 300w...
The 5670 gives about 5-7w higher at load then a 5450/4550.
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November 12, 2010 6:27:37 PM

Yes some they have q6600 cpus and the watts are 135 in there in full load of that CPU you knew it ? Ati is covering and this cases.
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a c 236 U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 6:54:39 PM

dalta centauri said:
Did you know, a 5450 says it needs a 400w psu or greater, although the 4550 says it needs a 300w...
The 5670 gives about 5-7w higher at load then a 5450/4550.


more facts to confirm Dalta's statement:

and Nvidia recommends a 400w PSU for the 8800GT / 9800GT.

Minimum Recommended System Power (W) 400 W
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9800gt_us....

that card only uses twice the amount of an ATI 5570 and more then the ATI 5770



some people understand PSU...and some people don't

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a c 236 U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 6:58:04 PM

rolli59 said:
Manufacturers power supply recommendation is based on GENERIC PSU's often rated at 10sec peak load. Quality PSU's are rated at continuous 100% load.
Actual total system load with HD5670 in an overclocked I7 920 system under gaming load is 212watts http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5550-rade...


nothing like posting facts to bring down a house of cards
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November 12, 2010 7:06:09 PM

Edit /delete falls alarm i did put the ring back i did close the 2 edges in the ring is better.
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a b U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 7:55:48 PM

There is some some weird "lag" with Black Ops On PC....
Even with a low end or high-end system. Search it up on Google.........
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a b U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 8:04:25 PM

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2010/11/call-of-d...
Ars wrote some thoughts on Black Ops.
Calls it Cpu bound, found that interesting.
Someone else under Activision made the game engine.
I'm pretty sure many configs could run MW2 above 80fps.
Op, I would upgrade your psu, to a quality unit, which can be done for 65.00 or about.
Then you won't have to plan around unknowns/ cheap psu.

Checking out videos on youbtube, here is a gtx 580 playing Black Ops at 1080 with all max settings. The fps are not that high at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rT1oFPmD6M&feature=chan...
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November 13, 2010 3:07:08 AM

Ok... So no matter what I have ot upgrade my power supply. Then I guess go with one of the ATI cards.

Looking at the 5770 I see Asus, XFX, Saphire, Saphire Vapor X and Visiontek.


I am looking at the Saphire Vapor X to be the least expensive. So why Would I get the others ??



I was originally looking more towards the 5750. Between 5770 and 5750 will a see major performance ? I am looking at like a 30 $ jump in price.

Again If I go with 5750. Saphire ? Visiontek ? XFX ?


Saphire always seems to be the cheaper one. I have heard of their warrenty being different. I don't plan on using this card mroe than 3 years.

Same question for 5670.

So. 5770 or 5750 or 5670 ? and By what company ? (saphire seems to be the cheapest all around).

Again my goal is to run black ops medium to high settings but not looking for more than 1280 x 800 ... (maybe 1920 x 1080 one day) and be in the clear for the next cod is run medium settings all day long.
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November 13, 2010 7:18:48 PM

I have a Visiontek 1024 MB DDR5 5670. I am running Black Ops with pretty much everything maxed and I am not having any lag issues at all. I would go with the 5670 in your case. It is cheap and can play the majority of games pretty well. The Visiontek is always out of stock on Newegg for some reason now, but the Asus card would be fine.
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November 14, 2010 1:24:35 AM

So I can get by with the 5670 without needing to change out the powersupply ?

If thats true .. Thats probably what I am going to do...

Now its just a question about Visiontek vs Saphire 5670.. Leaning towards the Saphire cause its Cheaper....

Any suggestions ?
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November 15, 2010 12:22:36 AM

I would still change the PSU. 300w is at the edge of what you need. According to the chart above 66w for the GPU. then you have to concider CPU, HDD, Fans, DVD drives, USB devices. Also, PSUs usaully have a five year life span on the power it is rated for. after that your power output decreases.
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