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16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws or Corsair Vengeance

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December 6, 2011 10:12:28 AM

My question is that is there a difference in these two items?

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The reason why I ask is if you buy them....
16GB = $85
2 x 8GB = 2 x $30 for 60 total that is a huge savings...

Should I get faster ram or it wouldn't even matter in my set up. the extra dollars doesn't bother me. DDR 1866/2000/2133 PC3 15k/16k/17k going to change that much?
CPU Intel Core i5-2500K
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Hard Drive Crucial M4 256GB
Case Cooler Master HAF 932
Power Supply Corsair 850W ATX12V
December 6, 2011 10:30:30 AM

Your topic title says 16GB G.Skill vs Corsair, yet your post compares 16GB G.Skill to 8GB G.Skill. Either way, here is real-world info:

If you are doing gaming/internet/basic video editing, just get G.Skill 8GB@1333mhz. You will NOT be able to tell the difference in that compared to 16GB or 1600mhz or changing the brand name to Corsair. Anyone who tells you otherwise is probably crazy. I dare them to sit down at two alike computers only with RAM changes from 8 to 16gb or 1333 to 1600mhz, open various software/games, and ask them which one has the better RAM.

It's like the Pepsi challenge, but worse.

If you are doing high quality (at least 1920x1080) video editing often in After Effects CS5.5 or similar (like I do), and you have tons of layers with tons of effects and need to be able to store large chunks of the video into memory for the RAM preview, I would go with 16GB RAM over 8GB and notice a difference. I recently upgraded from 8GB G.Skill @1333mhz to 16GB of it, and noticed I could RAM preview a lot more and the memory helps let me do other tasks while rendering.

In gaming, there is absolutely zero difference.

EDIT: Also, the type of G.Skill Ripjaw RAM will make no discernible difference either. Ripjaws vs Value vs Sniper will be different-ish, but the different lines in one catagory like: Ripjaws vs Ripjaws X vs Ripjaws Z, will be impossible to notice in gaming. I doubt anyone could tell running any Adobe CS5.5 or 3D App like Max/Maya which version of Ripjaws they have. I, personally, would go with the Ripjaws over the Value, just because they have heat spreaders, which would be important when leaving my computer on for 24 hours straight rendering.
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December 6, 2011 10:34:27 AM

Thanks for the quick reply. I screwed up on the title. I was asking also which is better G.Skill or Corsair?

Thou based on the two links I posted does it matter which one I get? They both look like the same item to me. Correct me if I am wrong. Just why would I spend $85 for 16gb when I can spend $60 for the same item essentially.
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December 6, 2011 10:48:12 AM

Ah sorry I missed that question.

The first link's sticks are identical to the second link's sticks.

This is confirmed by looking at the last picture on Newegg for them (the one where they are in the packages) and zooming into the white sticker on them. The serial numbers are identical, everything else identical, only thing changed is the sticker noting how many were purchased in the set.

The reason they put that on there is so that they know if you lie and tried to get a refund saying that you ordered 4 sticks and not 2, and then return the 2 sticks wanting 4 to come back in the mail. They would catch you by looking at the sticker (and receipts/etc). Also, you are not allowed to remove the sticker, so if you did they wouldn't let you do a refund anyway.

EDIT: So buy whichever is cheaper at the time. IE if you wanted 16GB, compare the price of 4x4gb to double the price of 2x4gb. You have the right idea. They usually are off by a bit of money, and sometimes one or the other goes on sale. It's all marketing.
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December 6, 2011 10:51:01 AM

Wow! Perfect. 16GB of ram for a total of 60 bucks. I can't complain :) 
Now I'm going to take a good list of my specs over to Microcenter and try to get 110% price match :) 
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December 6, 2011 11:00:17 AM

It looks like a good build. I'm jealous of the Crucial M4 SSD, haha. That would be my preferred SSD if I got one.

If you wanted a critique, the only questions I would have are:
1. What video card(s) are you planning on using / why 850 watts?
2. Are you sure you want the full tower HAF 932? It's like 30 pounds.
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December 6, 2011 11:08:01 AM

Plz do, I don't mind at all. The more advise I get the better.

Let me show you my old build as of now and I am in the process of upgrading.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
2 x 24" LCD Screens
- Dell ST2410
- Dell 2405FPW [Gives off way to much heat, OLD]
MSI P7N Diamond LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI
2 X GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Mushkin Enhanced 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb
2 x Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb

For now I am going to stick with the 2 cards I have because when the new cards come out I just might get them or i'll get 2 x 570's and the price will drop a bit.

2 new screens I am looking to get are the...
Acer H274HLBMID Black 27" 5ms Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 100,000,000:1 Max (ACM)
ASUS VE278Q Black 27" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 ASCR 10,000,000:1

Case: I know it's big and heavy but if I can get a lighter one I'm all ears. I just hope it all fits.

HDD: I was thinking of selling all my old HDD and getting updates ones.
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December 6, 2011 11:43:30 AM

PSU: Ah, yes, the 850 watt Corsair PSU makes sense for 2x GTX 460.

CPU: I am surprised that you want the i5-2500K and not the i7-2600K considering the relative prices of the other parts in the computer.

CASE: Case aesthetic is in the eye of the beholder, but you could possibly go with NZXT's Full Tower Phantom:
Black - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
White - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Comparison of Phantom to HAF932:
NZXT is 5 pounds lighter, and is 4" longer and has same height/width.
Both have 4 fans, but NZXT's are smaller.
NZXT has 7 HDD/SSD bays, HAF932 only has 5.
HAF932 has USB 3.0 headers, NZXT does not.
You'd have to check to comments to figure out other small details.

HDD: Yeah, the Velociraptors are going to be pointless once you have an SSD. I'd suggest selling them ASAP while they still exist.

Monitors: Why do companies bother putting the bad speakers in their monitors? Anyway, 1920x1080 LED Backlight LCD's are amazing. The contrast ratios are always hard to judge, especially when they all use different numbering systems. If they don't look right or don't have a wide viewing angle, I'd return em and look for something else. They probably are fine though.
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December 6, 2011 11:54:05 AM

PSU - Going back the PSU if I get eventually down the road 570s or even more power sli cards is the 850 going to do it for me?

CPU- Everyone is saying to stick with the i5-2500k since there isn't that much of a difference to the iz plus new chips coming out 2nd qtr of 12'

Case looks interesting but usb 3.0 is key for me.

I think I'm going to sell the raptors and my main 750gb and just get a 2TB 72oorpm 64MB until a year down the road when SSD drop and i'll get a bigger drive.

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December 6, 2011 12:21:21 PM

CPU: Well, I don't know what software you are running on the comp, but hyperthreading is worth if for 3D Max/Maya. Otherwise, I wouldn't suggest i7's.

PSU: With 2x570s and the i5-2500K at max load, you'll be pulling a lot of strain from the 850 watts, but I think it should hold up. You might want to get some more opinions from people that have 850 watt PSUs.

HDD: Prices for hard drives is way up, like 200% increase due to the flooding in Thailand. If you can wait for awhile, I bet the prices will go back down.
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December 6, 2011 12:26:28 PM

Yea I just noticed. I'm going to hold off on the hard drives but just buy one SSD.
Maybe I'll get a 1000 watt for the better cards as a back up so i wont have to upgrade later on.
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December 3, 2012 1:01:50 PM

So many people say there is no difference, and there is no need. however having a computer places you in a unique position. You are a person that likes freedom to do what ever they want on it. as well as learn and do new things. so always aim for the stars, do not listen to a single person that says you will not see the difference or you will never need that. because of advice such as that my cousin is sitting with a video card with only a gig of ram, 4 gigs of system ram. This will not do to run battlefield 3 or do any of the applications he has on his computer. there is cool things you can do with large amounts of ram and at their various speeds. You can either leave your self impugned; and not be able to accomplish something you may want to do in the future! from listening to advice like. "you cannot tell the difference or you will never need that much". I say go for it, fastest and the most. Its always nicer to have more then enough then not enough to get it done.


wright83 said:
My question is that is there a difference in these two items?

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
&
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The reason why I ask is if you buy them....
16GB = $85
2 x 8GB = 2 x $30 for 60 total that is a huge savings...

Should I get faster ram or it wouldn't even matter in my set up. the extra dollars doesn't bother me. DDR 1866/2000/2133 PC3 15k/16k/17k going to change that much?
CPU Intel Core i5-2500K
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Hard Drive Crucial M4 256GB
Case Cooler Master HAF 932
Power Supply Corsair 850W ATX12V
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