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January 10, 2011 3:28:39 PM

Just read your last post ... Gonna make some espresso and take a shower, right now.

... Forget about the spinpoint ...

... At only $16, you might want to buy a NEW **SATA** DVDR, now, anyway ... maybe.

... I'll have to get back to you, on the rest ... Annual Property Taxes!

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January 10, 2011 3:34:04 PM

Alvin Smith said:
Just read your last post ... Gonna make some espresso and take a shower, right now.

... Forget about the spinpoint ...

... At only $16, you might want to buy a NEW **SATA** DVDR, now, anyway ... maybe.

... I'll have to get back to you, on the rest ... Annual Property Taxes!

laytah


Ahh I understand taxes... ughh, I think I may actually have a SATA DVD Burner lemme check.
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January 10, 2011 10:04:34 PM

I chose free shipping from Amazon and the cheapest shipping from NewEgg. Just received e-mails saying everything has shipped except the CPU cooling fan from Amazon wonder why.... But all the parts I ordered are expected to be here tomorrow or by Wednesday. Just checked up on the DVD Burners I have all of them are Parallel but the motherboard I ordered does have a 1 x ATA133 2 Dev. Max so I can use one of the ones I have for the OS install would like to pick up a Blu-Ray burner.

As for the SDD I'd really like to make use of the 6.0Gb/s SATA on the motherboard any feedback on these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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January 10, 2011 11:52:17 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can plug this into a SATA-II *OR* a SATA-III port connector ... It is gonna run at (prolly) exactly the same speed ... Only the very pricey "super-pro" SSDs can saturate the older SATA-II standard interface.

.... A SATA3 port will "step-down" for a SATA-II drive ...

... Likewise ... You can hang a SATA3 Drive on a SATA2 port and the drive will "step down" (if it is really that fast) ...

... The vast majority of SSDs cannot even saturate a SATA2 interface, regardless of if they conform to SATA3, or not ...

I would not consider the interface, as a purchasing factor, unless I was buying a REALLY big/fast (internally RAIDed) SSD.

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January 11, 2011 12:03:43 AM

Alvin Smith said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can plug this into a SATA-II *OR* a SATA-III port connector ... It is gonna run at (prolly) exactly the same speed ... Only the very pricey "super-pro" SSDs can saturate the older SATA-II standard interface.

.... A SATA3 port will "step-down" for a SATA-II drive ...

... Likewise ... You can hang a SATA3 Drive on a SATA2 port and the drive will "step down" (if it is really that fast) ...

... The vast majority of SSDs cannot even saturate a SATA2 interface, regardless of if they conform to SATA3, or not ...

I would not consider the interface, as a purchasing factor, unless I was buying a REALLY big/fast (internally RAIDed) SSD.


Going to buy it.

I do understand what you are saying it's the same for USB 3.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s the technology is still to new for it to be fully utilized.
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January 11, 2011 2:55:41 PM

contro said:
Found a blu-ray burner under $100 comes with free software and 3-D glasses:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Great! I have been tellig folks that BR burners would be well under $100 after christmas, for 9 months, now .... looks like that came true.

... I'm still trying to figger what BR is good for (read OR write) ??

... Blockbuster went bankrupt ... nobody rents, that way ... I can't even get my busy friends and fam to watch disks that I made/burned (regular DVDs) ... I just started a channel on YouTube and sending email links seems to work .... Your call ... If you ever use the BR burn function ... I see precious littlr use or justification .. then .. now ... ever ... But, I can see a reader, in an HTPC ... but with DRM/HDCP, there are blocks on commercial material ... I mean ... USB drives prolly nake more sense.


Any-who ... I did my duty ... made my point ... $80 aint chicken feed but, if a BRB belongs ANYwhere... it is in an HTPC/Server.

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January 12, 2011 2:57:27 AM

verything came in today except the CPU Heatsink and the SSD will post pick tomorrow.
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January 12, 2011 3:46:35 AM

Yeah ... Jingle Bells !!

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January 12, 2011 6:27:47 AM

Going to document the build on my website as well as on this forum. Pics will be on my website stay tuned!

I'm gonna get some sleep. Just finished shoveling snow outside, ughh have to do it tomorrow again as well maybe will post pics later tonight or sooner hopefully.
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January 13, 2011 3:26:42 AM

very nice post more as they come in :bounce: 
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January 13, 2011 6:47:53 PM

Pretty pics ... VERY nice page design.

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If you have ANY technical issues, be sure to consult this TS guide ...
... Everything that I know (and several other techs) is in it ...
It *DOES* solve over 90% of probs with any new build (or failure).
... KEEP IT HANDY !!
...READ *BEFORE* BUILDING !
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PERFORM THESE STEPS before posting about boot/no video problems!

"System won't boot" and "no video output" checklist


This checklist is a compilation of troubleshooting ideas from many forum members. It's very important to actually perform every step in the checklist if you want to effectively troubleshoot your problem.

1. Did you carefully read the motherboard owners manual?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-ste...

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Also, this is our builder's guide ...

AGAIN ... READ *BEFORE* BUILDING !

Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC
Last Updated on November 6, 2010

This thread is to provide a step-by-step guide to how to build a PC. These are the general steps required in building a PC, which can be performed what sequence you feel best fits your needs.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...



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January 13, 2011 9:11:18 PM

Those are great references to use I forgot to plug in an 8 pin CPU power connector and RMAd the whole mobo only to find out the problem was that cable. Before giving up google :D 
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January 13, 2011 11:30:59 PM


Yeah ... I issue those links, as standard procedure, once the parts start rolling in ...

In that last day, waiting on the final parts ... A good time to "BONE UP".

(Saves me at least half my headaches ... too ... could save MORE if folks would READ!).

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January 13, 2011 11:42:07 PM

That's a good idea I hope you don't mind if I adopt a similar procedure :D 
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January 13, 2011 11:43:15 PM

joelmartinez said:
That's a good idea I hope you don't mind if I adopt a similar procedure :D 


MIND ?! ... Are you effin kidding me ?! ... PLEASE !


I like to spoon-feed these links and apply as much emphasis as might be well received.

Timing (timeliness) also is in the builder's ultimate interest.

... Sometimes, the day they order is the last you will hear from them ... You should get a "feel" of when a customer is going to sustain the relationship, throughout the build ... I like to sneak away, at this point ... But I am always just one PM away.

Anyway ... Point is ... Sometimes I issue the "Help Links" as early as "commitment time" ... If the builder looks to be highly confident and less needy. ... Just to remind them and so that they will have a handy reference.

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January 14, 2011 12:06:54 AM

I understand your logic, and will use this advice, than you very much Alvin the guy in the EVE suit (at least I'm pretty sure that's what it's called)
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January 14, 2011 4:05:55 PM

OMG! I can't believe I wasn't notified of these posts! Oh I went and bought 5 SATA cables from Newegg last night, still waiting on the CPU Heatsink, and SSD Drive. Also The case only came with two large fance one on top and one on back I'll need to purchase two extra fans for the Hard Drive area.

120 mm fans I went and looked on New Egg last night but couldn't make a choice on any of them I'm looking for real quiet fans that would keep the WD20EARS cool I mean they spin at 5400RPM so I imagine they should not generate that much heat already but I just want to be safe.

As soon as the rest of the components come in (I really hope everything comes in by the beginning of next week sometime) I will post more pics.

Like the new system builder's guide links you posted never had a need to use them, but this is a new computer I am building. It has been I'd say almost two years since I built a new system I don't foresee any major problems. The only major concern I have is setting up the RAID 10 I have never set up a RAID 10 though I imagine it cannot be that difficult just wish I had some clear instructions, OS is not going on the RAID 10, OS is going on the SSD. Also going to pick-up Window 7 Ultimate from my friend today for a sweet price of $60 !

I like how he's using the same case as me in my build : http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g... ^__^


Also big that to everyone who posted here Especially a big Shout of Thanks to Alvin Smith for all the suggestions and information he has given me!
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January 14, 2011 7:00:41 PM

Ok the SSD and CPU cooling fan came in today. I had to edit my website a bit pics were coming out funky so I separated them in two posts:
Part I

and

Part II

Alls that I am waiting for right now is the SATA cables for the RAID array, and recommendations for 120mm case fans to cool the hard drives.

Going to start the build and OS Install most likely tonight or tomorrow! I'm sure the RAID can be created after the OS Install.
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January 17, 2011 6:19:56 PM

Let me know how those work out for you, I'm in the market for 2 120mm or 1 200mm fan and the scythe looks nice because of how quiet it is, just a bit expensive
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January 17, 2011 8:03:17 PM

As soon as the SATA Cables, Scythes, Blu-Ray Drive come in I will update the post, I haven't forgotton about everyone's help here.
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January 19, 2011 2:24:42 PM

Update: Final parts are scheduled to arrive here today!
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January 20, 2011 4:40:51 AM

Built the computer everything turned on with the first try! ^__^
Installed Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit Edition.
Preformed the RAID 10 Setup
In Windows 7 right now formatting the RAID 10 array.

Will post pics when I get a free chance.
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January 20, 2011 7:10:02 AM

WOW! *SUCH* a STUD !!

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January 20, 2011 8:44:52 PM

I'd like to see how everything worked out :D 
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February 4, 2011 9:38:14 PM

Sorry to keep you guys waiting for such a long time but I finally got around to finishing up adding the pictures to my website and well here take a look thank you all who helped with the recommendations and everything!
The build was completed on 1/20/2011

The Final Parts

The Whole Thing put Together
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February 4, 2011 9:46:47 PM

Best answer selected by contro.
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February 5, 2011 5:25:22 AM

Thanks for the pointz and the "shout out" ...

... Looks great and, hope it does everything you wanted it to ... I think it WILL.

... nice page ... too.

=enjoy!=
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February 5, 2011 3:04:46 PM

Alvin Smith said:
Thanks for the pointz and the "shout out" ...

... Looks great and, hope it does everything you wanted it to ... I think it WILL.

... nice page ... too.

=enjoy!=


Thanks for all you help!
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February 5, 2011 7:13:17 PM


Would be good to hear a report on "heat and noise" as well as any success at OC ...

... Play with it, for a few weeks, under "normal" conditions, and let us know if/what you might change, if you could ...

... I am kinda wondering how much noise those four spinners put out and how that compares to your cooling ...

... Also ... If the fans are louder than the drives ... then how much temperature overhead "is there" to allow the use of RPM limiter strategies, to reduce fan noise ...

... Just wondering, because if an HTPC is in the same room as the "viewer(S)", ... and if one has gone to the trouble of acquiring Hi-Q sound/playback components ... Then ...
... Obviously ... sound is an issue.

I am always interested to know how the "noise vs. sound issue" plays out, in REAL DENS and home theaters.

= Take some mental notes ... and dig this thread up, in a few weeks. =


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May 18, 2011 2:56:50 PM

Your request subject included "DLNA Box", but I can't find any responses that address that need.

If you are (hopefully) using Linux and are somewhat adept at adding components, I suggest ushare for the DLNA server. Since the PS3 has a DLNA client, you should be set to go. At one point, the PS3 client didn't support the '.wmv' codec. I don't know what the situation is now.

You can get ushare from SourceForge at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ushare/

You will have to rebuild with DLNA support, which is, as I remember, a '.configure' option. I don't know why DLNA support isn't the default.

For Torrent download, I suggest ctorrent, which you can get at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ctorrent/

I've not built ctorrent, so I don't know what the challenges are. It was used on my ex-company's NAS lines.

contro said:
Approximate Purchase Date: Tomorrow-Next Week


Budget Range: $500-$1000


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Bit Torrent , Watching Movies, Streaming to PS3


Parts Not Required:
Hard Drives for the RAID 5 I already bought 4 Western Digital 2.0TB WD20EARS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: The cheaper the better, I use newegg.com a lot but I have priceblink installed on my Firefox Web Browser to find even cheaper prices.


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: I prefer ASUS and Intel, but if there is a better brand I am willing to go with another. Would like to go with a Modular Power Supply if possible.


Overclocking: No


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe


Monitor Resolution:
I have a LG FLATRON M237WD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Additional Comments: Here is my current setup:
I have a Samsung HW-C560S Home Theater System
and everything is connected to it, The LG Monitor, my PS3, and for now My Asus W3J Laptop which is acting as my current home theater PC.....

I'm not sure where to start originally I wanted to use the 4X 2TB drives in a NAS Enclosure was looking at Synology DS411j but in the end a DIY build was the most logical choice due to all the things I want to do on the computer.

They machine will be on 24/7 I am a slightly bit concerned about power when I am not going to be home. I'd like to run Windows 7 on it, Movies will be watched on the PC 1080p, flash, and maybe Blu-Ray discs but I have a PS3 for that so it's not terribly important. and uTorrent will be run on it.

Preferably I'd like sound and video to be outputted via one HDMI cable, not sure if it's possible or if it's the best choice.

I'd like to go with a HTPC case the smaller the better if it's possible, At least 5 hard drive bays if possible, I do not want to install the OS on the RAID 5 array. The quieter the better.

Well that's pretty much all the information I have. Any questions feel free to ask I'll reply as soon as I read the feedback.

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