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April 1, 2011 6:12:52 PM

Well I wanted to take a Shuttle SH67H3, but everyone I asked says it isn't enough power though the benchmarks say that at full load it only uses about 300 watt. Why can't I do that?

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April 1, 2011 6:24:28 PM

Are you asking if a 300w power supply will run a 560Ti? Well yeah I suppose it would. But what is going to power the rest of your computer? ;)  You need a quality 500w power supply for a computer with a 560Ti maybe even 550w if you are overclocking heavily.
April 1, 2011 6:33:18 PM

Which high end graphic cards would run with 300 Watt then
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April 1, 2011 6:35:18 PM

danker8 said:
Which high end graphic cards would run with 300 Watt then


NONE
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April 1, 2011 6:39:30 PM

danker8 said:
Which high end graphic cards would run with 300 Watt then


Those with their own Mr. Fusion converter! :D  :sol: 
a c 1098 ) Power supply
April 1, 2011 6:41:46 PM

A reference clocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti has a maximum Graphics Card Power of 170 Watts. This means it can draw up to a maximum of 14.2 Amps from the +12 Volt rails. It requires two 6-pin PCIe Supplementary Power Connectors from the SH67H3's power supply unit.

I highly doubt that the 300 Watt power supply unit in the SH67H3 is able to power the system with the GeForce GTX 560 Ti under full GPU and CPU load. Is there even a 6-pin PCIe Supplementary Power Connector on that power supply unit? The power supply is only rated to deliver up to 20 Amps on its combined +12 Volt rails under full load.

You need a power supply upgrade to a reputable name brand of at least 500 Watts or more if you want to use that graphics card.
April 1, 2011 6:43:54 PM

Will 380 watts run HD 6850 or GTX 460?
April 1, 2011 6:43:57 PM

@ danker8..........................................................................

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No High End Card runs on 300W Power Supply. Not for the next 5-10 years it won't.

It can, but you would need another Power Supply for the rest of your computer, Mobo, HDD, CPU, Etc.

Shouldn't go lower than a 500W. Graphic card's at load will eat energy.

560 Ti probably 500W-650W is good. that's only 1 btw.
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April 1, 2011 6:48:58 PM

danker8 said:
Will 380 watts run HD 6850 or GTX 460?


Dude, why are you grabbing at straws here????

Both of those would require 450w or better and those are FAR from high end video cards. They are low-midrange cards.

You also need a psu with TWO 6 pin connectors, I doubt your 300w has TWO 6 pin connectors for graphics.
April 1, 2011 6:50:36 PM

Your high end cards cost 600-800 dollars. Not something normal people can pay.
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April 1, 2011 6:52:02 PM

danker8 said:
Your high end cards cost 600-800 dollars. Not something normal people can pay.


So who's high end cards were you referring too??? As far as I know there are only 2 companies on planet Earth making mainstream graphics cards, ATI and Nvidia.

If there's another one manufacturing from Mars or Jupiter and their high end card is a GTX460, then please let us know ASAP.
April 1, 2011 6:52:56 PM

^ LOL get off the 300W wagon bro.

300W is what you find in a shitty Dell/HP PC. Is that power supply gaming material? No.

6850, GTX 460 all takes 500W and over, and still, that is a low for it.

300W you can run a 9600GT fine.
April 1, 2011 6:53:49 PM

And I've red somethings where people used 355watt on full load with whole system with 6850 and intel core i5 2500, my system.
April 1, 2011 6:54:59 PM

LOL.

Danker, you sir, are pro.
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April 1, 2011 6:56:24 PM

danker8 said:
And I've red somethings where people used 355watt on full load with whole system with 6850 and intel core i5 2500, my system.



You mean you read thats what the power draw was, not the psu size they were using. Big difference. LOL
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April 1, 2011 6:59:02 PM

danker8 said:
And I've red somethings where people used 355watt on full load with whole system with 6850 and intel core i5 2500, my system.


Yeah, they used 355 watts, not that their PSU was a 355 watt PSU! If your system actually uses 355 watts, then you want a PSU rated at 600-700 watts. A PSU is most efficient when run at about 50% of capacity.
April 1, 2011 7:01:11 PM

I would say 450-500W for a single card should be enough for a comfortable life if it is for a good brand such as Corsair. Such PSUs have have lots of amperage on 12V rails. For example, my Antec EarthWatts 500D Green is rated 444W on 12V rails combined which makes 444/12=37 A combined. With PSU you always want to have some headroom, so target around 500W or more on a good brand.
April 1, 2011 7:01:15 PM

Why big difference?
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April 1, 2011 7:02:39 PM

danker8 said:
Why big difference?


Ok your car has 250hp, does that mean you drive it with the gas pedal to the floor and using all 250hp all the time? No. Why? Because it would blow up in 10 minutes.

Please use your brain, whatever's left of it.

If there is a particular video card you want, we can suggest a psu for it. Period.

If your system draws 355w at full load and you DONT plan on doing ANY overlcocking or ANY upgrading down the road, then a good quality 450w would be what you need. If you do plan on overclocking or upgrading, I would suggest 550-600w.
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April 1, 2011 7:04:00 PM

danker8 said:
Why big difference?

Do YOU like running at full speed all the time? Sooner or later, when something is running at full capacity, it will burn out. Usually sooner!
April 1, 2011 7:05:26 PM

Ok, I'm taking an OCZ ModXstream Pro 600 Watt
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April 1, 2011 7:07:01 PM

danker8 said:
Ok, I'm taking an OCZ ModXstream Pro 600 Watt


That would work, BUT, tell us your budget and where your buying from maybe we can suggest something better.
a b ) Power supply
April 1, 2011 7:08:26 PM

The PSU has several rails to provide to, 3.3 volts, 5 volts, and 12 volts. Your PSU may be a 300 Watt PSU but it may only be able to do 250 watts on the 12v rails, when you add in the GPU, motherboard, CPU, hard drive it all adds up, and its never good to run a PSU at max capacity, as it causes the PSU to wear down faster.

Edit: My reply took to long
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April 1, 2011 7:10:18 PM

Snipergod87 said:
The PSU has several rails to provide to, 3.3 volts, 5 volts, and 12 volts. Your PSU may be a 300 Watt PSU but it may only be able to do 250 watts on the 12v rails, when you add in the GPU, motherboard, CPU, hard drive it all adds up, and its never good to run a PSU at max capacity, as it causes the PSU to wear down faster.

Edit: My reply took to long



.....and produce more heat, which you don't want in a SFF PC.
April 1, 2011 7:18:29 PM

My budget is 800-900 euro's.
My build is: Case: Asus INTEL Vintage V7-P8H67E
PSU: Be Quiet Pro 530 Watt
GPU: ASUS GTX 460 Direct CU
CPU: Intel Core I5 2500
Speakers: Logitech S120
Monitor: Samsung BX2235
Ram: Mushkin Blackline 2*4gb
HD: Samsung Spinpoint F3
April 1, 2011 7:22:22 PM

The 300 Watt was in the Case. I was asking if it was enough.
April 1, 2011 7:23:21 PM

i think that's what he's planning on getting.

He probably has a 300W now and asking if he can use it for his new build.
April 1, 2011 7:24:20 PM

Your funny! This is my first build. I only have dells at home! I don't even have those psu's.
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April 1, 2011 7:24:49 PM

Quote:
My budget is 800-900 euro's.



Ok now he says he has over $1200 to buy a psu.

I give up guys, someone else please help this nut job.
April 1, 2011 7:27:02 PM

???????? I don't get you?
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April 1, 2011 7:28:10 PM

danker8 said:
My budget is 800-900 euro's.
My build is: Case: Asus INTEL Vintage V7-P8H67E
PSU: Be Quiet Pro 530 Watt
GPU: ASUS GTX 460 Direct CU
CPU: Intel Core I5 2500
Speakers: Logitech S120
Monitor: Samsung BX2235
Ram: Mushkin Blackline 2*4gb
HD: Samsung Spinpoint F3


Although we don't have much experience with Be Quiet PSU's over here in the States, what I have heard has been favorable.

This looks like a solid build to me, with the exception of needing an optical drive of some kind.
April 1, 2011 7:29:19 PM

I've got an optical drive from one of the dells. I'm dutch, by the way.
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April 1, 2011 7:31:22 PM

danker8 said:
???????? I don't get you?



I asked you what your budget is for a power supply (that's what this whole friggin thread is about right??)

You tell me 800-900EURO's. That's $1,180-1,280 US Dollars.

Your telling me you want to spend $800-900 Euro's on a psu and YOU dont get ME??
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April 1, 2011 7:36:27 PM

danker8 said:
I've got an optical drive from one of the dells. I'm dutch, by the way.


Make sure that the optical drive from your Dell has a SATA interface. the Motherboard you are using doesn't have IDE ports.
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April 1, 2011 7:38:02 PM

clarkjd said:
Make sure that the optical drive from your Dell has a SATA interface. the Motherboard you are using doesn't have IDE ports.


I honestly think the $15 optical drive is the LEAST of this guys problems.
April 1, 2011 7:40:13 PM

Okay I'll take an optical drive.
April 1, 2011 7:55:40 PM

he says 800-900 on his entire build.. not the psu.

Anyway, your build is okay, just get a decent power supply. Mushin makes good RAM.
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April 1, 2011 8:04:05 PM

This thread was like an episode of the Geraldo show in tech form.
April 11, 2011 11:09:01 PM

300W... lmfao...
August 8, 2011 6:46:09 PM

id just let him get like a 50 usd 500 watt psu...like the earthwatts one..idk where'd he get one though if he lives in euope or does newegg and watnott ship out there ? Btw those earthwatts are perty good :D  XD
August 10, 2011 2:32:36 PM

I got the video shuttle with 300 watt.
August 13, 2011 12:36:06 AM

stingwing said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPSItZ7MII

The case has a 300 watt psu and it runs a GTX 560 Ti


You need to watch that full video. The GTX 560 Ti wouldn't work because it was drawing too much and triggered the overcurrent protection. He switched out for a non-Ti GTX 560, and that still runs a little hot (and Battlefield ran at only at 30 fps).
August 14, 2011 5:12:59 PM

tl;dr get a 500+ watt psu if you want a gaming rig. 300 watt is a terrible, terrible idea. The OCZ you posted earlier is fine.
August 14, 2011 9:49:43 PM

wow....just wow....I'm tired after reading this. Nap time
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August 14, 2011 10:22:56 PM

Sigh. At least get an Antec EA 380D if you want a 560TI.

The EA380D will work but dont try to overclock anything...

But if you wanna try the 300w and kill everything... more power to you.
August 17, 2011 2:42:24 PM

trihedral said:
@ danker8..........................................................................

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No High End Card runs on 300W Power Supply. Not for the next 5-10 years it won't.

It can, but you would need another Power Supply for the rest of your computer, Mobo, HDD, CPU, Etc.

Shouldn't go lower than a 500W. Graphic card's at load will eat energy.

560 Ti probably 500W-650W is good. that's only 1 btw.



If I ran just a 560 (not Ti) and only a SSD with 16gb of ram could I get buy with the 300w in the shuttle?

Also The shuttle has TWO 6 pin connectors, and the box says it's a very high quality power supply.
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August 17, 2011 2:59:25 PM

Here is what you do since it looks like you really don't want to get a new power supply. Try it. If it crashes, get a bigger power supply.

Any 560 will need more than a 300 watt power supply. Go go nvidia's web site, they list the recommended power supplies for all their products. They also list the max power draw for the card which is usually more relevant to calculating what you need to run. So you take your max PSU output, subtract 25% for heat and efficiency loss and to be a bit safe. Add up what the RAM will use, what the video card will use, what the motherboard needs, what the hard-drive needs, what the CPU needs, and you have the power supply size you need. If the two numbers are very close, you are taking a risk.
August 26, 2012 6:27:38 PM

i dont know what you guys are talking about... i know the recommended settings and all say it requires much more. but i ran the 6950 2GB on a 300 watt power supply and never had any problems what so ever. I did that for about 2 months until eventually upgrading everything else because i was planning on doing some serious overclocking, but leaving everything at stock 300 w was more than enough to power everything and the 6950, no crashes at all even under a full load. and it was an AMD cpu 95w

all i'm saying, you can look at the numbers and speculate and come to a conclusion, or you can just do it and see.

in that same old machine i put a gtx 560 (not a ti) and its been running great for months.
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